David1

Not yet. The only info on the design of the ballpark so far can be found here: http://www.marlinbaseball.com/forums/index...showtopic=29085

Did I miss something? When was HOK named the architect for the new stadium? I believe the City used them to come up with that original co-joined plan but I don't believe the Marlins have announced who their architect is. I could be wrong. I was stuck up in New Hampshire for awhile. Did I miss an announcement? No, the city originally used the company that designed the renovation of Lambeu Field. I forgot their name. HOK is mentioned as the Marlins architect in this ESPN article written on 20th of April: http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=1786464

Here is the first news from one of the papers on the vote: http://www.palmbeachpost.com/sports/conten...511marlins.html

Yup, it is HOK. Here is the article that mentioned HOK for the Marlins a few weeks ago: http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=1786464

Now it seems Hank supports this deal as planned. He thinks this deal as structured is very optimistic. But if the Marlins can build this ballpark with the way this deal is structured now, he says he will support it. I guess he did not understand the deal yesterday when he ranted and raved.

No way is this going to happen. The Marlins will never accept such a situation. They already rejected this before. This is nothing new. I think they would rather move to some other city rather than move to some renovated OB.

Someone please correct me if I am doing this the wrong way. Math isn't one of my strengths. Houston did theirs for 250 mil. According to this chart on inflation: http://oregonstate.edu/Dept/pol_sci/fac/sahr/cv2004.pdf creating the same park today will cost between 270 to 290. I used both money # from 1997 when it first started and 2000 when it openned. The Marlins are proposing 325. I am not sure why their park cost so cheap compared with other retractable parks of the time, but it definitely did work.

He also lost credibility with me when he stated that the City of Miami is requiring the Marlins to pay for any cost overruns in this agreement. He said that could be a deal breaker because the Marlins would never agree to such a thing. But if FAT Hank had been reading the papers he would have read of the countless quotes from Samson saying that the Marlins are willing to pay for any cost overruns. Samson has been saying this since Day ONE!!!! He also keeps on saying how is the City going to pay for it since it has no money. Hello Hank, its coming from the Miami Arena sale if it happens. Then he goes on to say how schools will be screwed. Are schools being any less screwed now that the state did not pass the rebate, Hank??? Geez! Every team gets a rebate. The Marlins should get it as well for their new ballpark.

It is the only item on the agenda? No, it is a supplement that was added later after the original agenda was posted here: http://www.ci.miami.fl.us/Agendas/Commission/05-06-04.pdf

Looks like they will vote on it to at least accept in principle: http://www.ci.miami.fl.us/Agendas/Supplemental/05-06-04S.pdf

to bad the stadium won't have old time lights like at jacobs field or retro scoreboard. How do you know???

This guy is a bozo. Scary to go to the OB???? Nonsense! Inconvenient to Northern Broward and PB fans??? Perhaps. The Marlins already know that the fans they loose in Broward and PB will have to be made up with new fans from South Dade.

$367 million doesn't buy you what it used to.? Houston's ballpark didn't cost that much, came out fine, why couldn't ours? Prices don't rise that quickly, OK! That is my hope. I don't think price inflates so much for a ballpark after only a few years. I just hope they avoid some of the mistakes made in MMP by actually making the new Marlins ballpark a pitchers park.

go here http://www.marlinbaseball.com/forums/index...=0entry337871 It will be on the north side of the stadium. Meaning it will be along the left side of the park on third base. IMO, it is best to put it there.

I think he meant what will the Marlins decide to do next week. Will they choose to move forward anyway and start around Oct. 1? Or will they do nothing this year until they get the rebate next year?

Crap!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Don't scare me like that again I thought it had to do with the damn legislature not approving that rebate. LOL

I recorded the the ballpark overhead sketch from channel 10. I put it on pause and it seems to me if you sit anywhere from home to right field you will be able to see any building from bayside to brickell. That is just about all downtown. The left field seats will have a good view of the buildings a little north of the Miami river and brickel. So it seems to me that it will have a good view of downtown. But that is just from the overhead. my concern is more for the people on left field. I am not sure how much the southern wall of the OB will block the view of the buildings a little north of the Miami River. At the very least I think from whereever one sits they will have a great view of brickell.

look at it this way loria went all out last year to win this year with the rings. he is an art dealer and i'm hopefully sure that he wouldn't build a crappy stadium. he wouldn't want to be known as the art dealer owner with a crappy lookin stadium. i'm sure he didn't like the first ob site site because it looked crappy I can only hope so!!! One other thing I guess us fans can do is e-mail Samson, Diaz, and Arriola and let them know we don't need another Miami Arena situation in our hands. This ballpark must be truly beautiful with all the bells and whistles. We as fans should e-mail them suggestions on what you think the ballpark should have and mistakes you think other ballparks have made that should be ommited from that Marlins new ballpark. D.Samson@FlaMarlins.com mannydiaz@ci.miami.fl.us jarriola@ci.miami.fl.us

The cost estimate was raised to $367M today. That's because they added the parking garage.

how close are they to selling the miami arena? I read that Sopher may be signing the contract in the next few weeks or so. They also have to do an appraisal. If the appraisal comes back as the Arena being worth more than 25, Sopher will have to raise his bid to the average of the appraisal or there will be an auction. At least that is my understanding. by the way: this stadium if built will by far have the best view in baseball, better than PNC because the building around PNC aren't lit up like the downtown skyline of MIAMI. umm...as much as I would love that to be true, I highly doubt that. PNC park has the best view in baseball IMHO. But I would be happy if it ranked in the top 10. Will the stadium have a retro look? what if they try to cut cost so much the stadium looks like PPS!!! Have no idea what kind of look it will have. But you have just written a big concern I have had all this time over the 325 tag. Some people question that it will cost that at all. They say it will cost maybe 100 million more. But my concern is that it actually will cost 325 million because they will cut corners and build some cheap, ugly, obsolete ballpark. I just hope that doesn't happen. *scared as hell* Me too!!!! I just hope they build a beautiful, awesome ballpark we can all be proud of.

on channel ten i saw what looked like a picture of a stadium over the site. the stadium does not face the ob and the outfield seats are like at wrigley. the roof will be like at safeco but instead of opening and sitting in the outfield, when the roof opens it will be on the third base side of the stadium. i say it vaguely, it will have an awesome view of downtown from what i saw but it was vaguely. they didn't show what it looked like a just saw like a overhead view. I saw the same pic you saw on channel 10. I think having it on third base would be awesome. By having it on third base I think the ballpark can feel even more like an open air ballpark when it is open than other retractable roof ballparks in the league. At least that is only an opinion, I could be very wrong. But it is my hope.

I believe they can still start without the state part of it this year. I believe the state will eventually give it to them anyways next year. The problem was that the Marlins came to tallahassee very late. Next year he better be on time to get the rebate. Like someone else said, Samson better camp out front for next year. Btw, it is special news because it seems like all parties have finally come to an agreement about where, who, and how the ballpark will be built. Before no such thing existed. Now they will have to make sure the Arena is sold and get state funding next year.

I guess he canceled

I hope whoever is building the stadium makes it a great one, and hopefully expandable because 38k is pretty damn small. You can e-mail Mayor Diaz, Arriola, and Samson to voice your opinion. Tell them they better not screw this one up because we don't need another obsolete stadium around here. This has got to be a damn good ballpark. I think we should e-mail them with ideas to make this an awesome park. mannydiaz@ci.miami.fl.us jarriola@ci.miami.fl.us D.Samson@FlaMarlins.com And yes, it will have a retractable roof.

changing alliances with a team because they change their name is stupid. thinking that having the team named the florida marlins will bring in more fans is also stupid, because then everyone would be changing their names to bring in more fans. you'd see the michigan tigers, georgia braves, pennsylvania pirates, missouri royals. besides the miami marlins makes it sound more like a baseball team. you are either a fan of the team or not. you think people in new hampshire care that the boston red sox are called the boston red sox. Lets not be too harsh on him. There are many fans that like their teams because they do represent where they live. For example, I could never like some Tampa Bay team because quite simply I have nothing to do with that city. NirvanaNole could at least like the Florida Marlins because in his mind it also represented where he lived. Now being changed to the Miami name will be like the fish moving to some other state to him. For that matter, another planet. That is what I think he is going through.