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  1. The 25-35 games on OTA broadcast stations would provide more brand exposure than what we have now on cable with Fox Sports Florida. The ratings prove being on OTA Broadcast TV is better than being on cable. 10PM Ratings (# of households) WSVN: 250,000-300,000 WPLG: 150,000-250,000 Fox Sports Florida: 19,000 Plus you can put games on WSCV (Telemundo) which gets 300,000+ households nightly and provides a way for the team to bolster it’s Hispanic marketing campaign. So we can have 500,000 households watching the Marlins in the future instead of 19,000, plus an additional $20 Million and the OTA games act as a “free trial” of ESPN+ in a sense to drive subscriber growth, plus fans won’t need a cable subscription to watch games they just pay ESPN $4.99 (current rate). Everyone Wins!
  2. Sinclair might be getting cold feet because of the performance of the team in the past few years. If these are there options: Sinclair (Fox Sports Florida): 10 Year Deal $40 Million 1st Year, $70 Million 10th Year ESPN+: 5 Year Deal $65 Million 1st Year, $85 Million 5th Year If those are the scenarios you go with ESPN+. If we get $20 Million more to go to a streaming provider you have to take it, that’s an Ace starter or a power bat. Plus, as part of the deal you can set aside 25 games to go on OTA TV (WTVJ, WPLG, WSVN, WFOR, syndicate to WPB, Fort Myers, Orlando, Jacksonville), this would give the team better exposure than being on cable and more flexibility to spend on free agents.
  3. At this stage of the negotiations, the Marlins should be close to an agreement with Fox Sports Florida by now. They have been negotiating with Fox Sports Florida since 2017 when Jeter & Co. took over. If they haven’t made significant progress in the last 27 months then it’s unlikely that they will come to an agreement. The reason why the quote is concerning is because it indicates that they aren’t close to an agreement and are beginning to look at other options.
  4. On the 2020 Bold Predictions Thread I posted that my off-field prediction was that the Marlins would sign with a streaming service (ESPN+, Amazon Prime, etc.). Many have asked questions since and I’m posting this thread to answer some of those questions. Q1: Hm, where'd you hear that? I mean, I'm not surprised, but curious where you're hearing it. The Marlins posted a statement earlier in the off-season that distanced themselves from a speedy renewal with Fox Sports Florida. The statement said that the: Marlins are determined "to find the right partner to deliver the right product to our fans at the right rate that allows us to fill in the building blocks to a sustainable business.” This reads as if Jeter & Co. have been trying to get the best deal possible since they took over and Sinclair (new owners of Fox Sports Florida) aren’t budging. The part of the statement that reads at “right product to our fans at the right rate” reads as if they are looking to sign with a streaming service. If they were more optimistic of a renewal the statement would have read like this. “We are making progress in negotiations with Fox Sports Florida in securing TV rights beyond the 2020 season. We look forward to ironing out the remaining details and providing Marlins fans with the best coverage in the 2021 season and beyond.” Q2: Also, wouldn't that mean new announcers? No, all play-by-play and color commentators are hired by the organization. Studio personnel are hired by the network with input from the organization.
  5. Bold Predictions On-Field: Marlins will win 74-83 games. Wichita Wind Surge will make a run in the AAA playoffs. Off-Field: Marlins will sign an exclusive local TV deal with a streaming service (ESPN+, Amazon Prime, etc.) based on what I’m hearing negotiations aren’t going great With Fox Sports Florida.
  6. I completely agree, if the organization chooses to sign a 15-30 year deal they should definitely have a Rays Relocation clause.
  7. The Marlins TV deal expires at the end of this season and since the Rays are most likely going to leave the Tampa Bay Area by 2027, the Marlins organization should only sign a 7-10 year TV deal. Right now the odds for the Rays are as follows: Full-Time Stadium in Tampa Bay Area: 5% Split Season Plan with Tampa Bay and Montreal: 5% (Link below has story from the past week on Split Season Plan: Leaving Tampa Bay Area: 90% Sports fans never want to see a city lose their team but it seems that in this case, it’s inevitable by 2027. With this being the overwhelming outcome, the Marlins will have exclusive TV territory throughout the state of Florida. This will make a major difference in TV rights negotiations. Right now and in the past if Fox couldn’t make a deal with the Marlins, they could fall back on having the Rays. In the future, if Sinclair can’t come to an agreement with us then they won’t have any live sports programming throughout the Spring and Summer months. The Diamondbacks have exclusive TV territory throughout the state of Arizona (which doesn’t near the population or TV households of Florida) and they recently signed a 15 Year, $1.5 Billion TV deal ($100 Million per year). Also, when the Rays leave, the Marlins will have the opportunity to expand their radio network throughout the state. http://cdn.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/28225506/st-pete-rays-end-talks-sharing-team-home-slate-montreal https://www.mlb.com/news/arizona-diamondbacks-agree-to-new-tv-deal-with-fox/c-109753842
  8. We were 10th one week ago. Do these trades move us into the Top 5?
  9. Tonight’s attendance was very impressive: 9,469 Only Friday Night with higher attendance was 5/17 vs. Mets: 9,870. We will have our first 10,000+ Friday Night very soon. Starting Pitching was impressive, bullpen was great tonight, Offense was very productive. We will make the playoffs by 2021. The rest of the Division is in chaos, Phillies are overrated, Nationals are mediocre, and the Mets are a soap opera, the Braves are our only competition.
  10. This has to be the greatest Twitter thread I have ever seen. Geff clearly Point-by-Point explains why there can’t be any more excuses for not attending games. The best part is after the thread when the first fan reply is how these players might get traded when they reach arbitration. Geff responds by telling the fan that having a**es in the seats helps! We can’t as a fanbase live in fear that our favorite players will be traded away. This ownership group has proven that they can make transactions that are in the short and long term interest of the team. If this team performs the way they have over the last 36 games (25-11) our paid attendance will be well over 15,000 per game in the near future. One minor change that I would make is keeping the roof open unless temps reach 88 Degrees or there is over a 40% chance of storms. Being overly conservative and keeping the roof closed when there might be a small pop-up shower keeps fans from enjoying the mostly outstanding weather in Late March, April, May, and Early June. The attendance and environment would be better with 85 degree weather even with a chance for a small shower than being indoors. The roof should be used to avoid extreme heat 88+ degree weather or heavy thunderstorms in Late June, July, August, and Early September.
  11. Attendance was 7,327 last night. The only Tuesday Night with better attendance was April 16th vs. Cubs. 8,137. Our attendance is improving as the team develops.
  12. I knew we were going to grow into a much larger fan base if the Rays left. Having exclusive TV rights to the state of Florida will help us have a much larger payroll.
  13. I agree completely and think it’s worse than Loria, Loria made boneheaded moves at times but in the end he always genuinely wanted the best for the team and the best for South Florida. He signed a 13 Year, $300 Million contract for Stanton. That takes commitment. On Opening Day of 2018, the Rays owner complained during an in-game interview about how the new $3 coffee they were promoting was ”too cheap”. Just think if you’re a Rays fan, why would I spend money to support a team when I may not be able to attend any postseason games. Finally, if they ever win a World Series (They Haven’t Yet) where are they going to have their parade! I have an idea, they can meet each other in SOUTH HILL, VA! So grateful to be a fan of Florida’s only MLB team, the Miami Marlins!!!
  14. The tide is turning, since Mid-May when the team had it’s winning streak, the Rays and Orioles have been promoted as the clown show of baseball as opposed to the Marlins. There are four teams with worse records than the Marlins, all in the American League The Orioles are expected to break the record for most HR’s given up with a lot of time to spare. With our starting pitching, we will have at least 20,000 per night in the stands and make the playoffs by 2021.
  15. The team could try to come to an agreement with the city where they could go back to being the Florida Marlins with heavy promotion of the city of Miami via having an F insignia on the front of the cap while putting Miami on the back, TV/Radio promotion of the city during game telecasts, having a Miami Road Alternate Uniform etc.
  16. It’s better for baseball if the Rays leave Florida and go to Montreal. The Marlins should get a TV deal of over $100Million per year because of their territorial exclusivity of Florida with almost 10 Million TV households. We could go back to being the Florida Marlins and have 1 or 2 Home Games per year in Tampa or Orlando.
  17. 18 Months ago everyone thought that Bruce Sherman and Derek Jeter overpaid for the Marlins. Now it looks like they might make alot of money by being the only MLB team in Florida Our TV Deal should be at least $90 Million per year based on territorial exclusivity in almost 10 million TV households alone.
  18. Kansas City is close by but St. Louis has vast TV territory that stretches into Iowa, Illinois, Arkansas, Tennessee, and Mississippi. Other franchises that have good attendance numbers because of distance are Arizona and Seattle. If a franchise is placed in Portland it will negatively affect Seattle’s ability to compete.
  19. The baskets are used in order to keep fans from reaching into the ivy to catch a potential Home Run. Also, in my latest post regarding the thread The Rays are Leaving and the Marlins are Staying I detail why I’m frustrated with Baseball’s situation in Florida.
  20. It’s not that simple but it speaks to the fact that some of the excuses used by Tampa fans are not valid. Us Marlins fans are willing to put up with all of the same traffic and other hurdles in order to support our team, even if we are frustrated with the product on the field. I also believe that when the Rays move out in the next decade, it will open up many opportunities that the Marlins haven’t had since 1994-1998. I find it to be no coincidence that our most successful years were when there was only one team in the state of Florida. Our TV ratings, merchandise sales, and sponsorship revenue would be much higher if we were the only team in Florida. For Example, markets such as Atlanta (Braves), Boston (Red Sox), and St. Louis (Cardinals) are all able to thrive because they don’t have competition within a 5 hour driving distance. I didn’t mean to saddle the forum with a ton of Rays talk, I just think that the Marlins would be in a much stronger financial position for payroll and therefore success as the only team in the State of Florida.
  21. The point of the topic is pointing out how foolish the National Baseball Media is for bashing the Marlins fanbase which is upset about the current product on the field while Tampa can’t even turn out 10,000 on a weeknight for a team that is going to win 95+ games.
  22. Marlins (Projected 42-48 Win Season) Tuesday, April 30th Attendance (Night): 7,247 Wednesday, May 1st Attendance (Night): 7,262 Rays (Projected 98-104 Win Season) Monday, May 6th Attendance (Night): 8,124 Tuesday, May 7th Attendance (Night): 8,059 The Numbers Tell The Story
  23. Definition of Rebuilding: to repair, especially to dismantle and reassemble with new parts The key that us fans need to keep in mind is the last part (to dismantle and reassemble with new parts). Mr. Jeter needs to obtain the parts necessary to win a championship while completely dismantling the previous roster’s structure. This is what Loria was never able to successfully implement, the team would always be half rebuilt. Rebuilding is far from easy and needs to be done using multiple avenues. The Draft: We should obtain the #1 Pick in both the 2020 and 2021 drafts along with having the #4 Overall Pick in the draft this June. This gives us a strong core that will be club controlled for 6 years. International Scouting: Mr. Jeter has already been very aggressive in obtaining International Bonus Pool Money. This has allowed us to sign the Mesa’s and will allow the organization to obtain more young talent in the future that will also be club controlled for 6 years. Free Agency: This is actually a great time to rebuild because we are waiting out some BAD contracts from the Loria years. By the time we finish the 2020 Season we will have gotten both Chen and Starlin Castro off the books (Combined $33 Million or 45% of current payroll) while also most likely obtaining two #1 Overall Picks. TV Contract: Right now is a bad time to spend and attempt to contend for a title because we are at the end of a HORRIBLE TV Deal that pays only about $20 Million per year. At the end of the negotiation our 2020 TV rights should be worth approximately $70-80 Million. The reason why ratings don’t matter in this case is because 1. The team is bad, for now. 2. The winner of the TV rights gets to broadcast games across the state of Florida which is in a population boom and is now the 3rd Largest State in the U.S. 3. Live Sports is the only programming that is DVR proof. Just think, an extra $50-60 Million per year could sign Bryce Harper plus another free agent. Why Mr. Jeter is a Genius (By The End of the 2020 Season) Two #1 Overall Picks and a #4 Overall Pick plus Compensatory Picks International Pool Money that will allow the club to Sign Impact Players A payroll of only $40 Million that will allow the flexibility to sign multiple free agents since the team will also have Revenue Sharing Money that will have been saved. Let ESPN, MLB Network, and other media outlets laugh at the Marlins while they can. The 2022-2030 seasons will be a different story.
  24. I don’t think he’s being fake as much as he is tired of the pile on of negativity surrounding the organization. He thinks the negativity is unfair to fans who have gone through the last decade of mediocrity followed by tragic loss followed by organizational restructuring. I think Jeter has a specific plan for the team that will lead to sustainable success. That is why I have not criticized him. Loria did not plan for sustainable success. Loria Bad Farm System 27th Overpaying for Stanton without having a good starting rotation after Fernandez Unclear Marketing Message Jeter Much Better Farm System 13th Not overpaying for players except for ones that are stuck on books from Loria Era (Chen etc.) Clear Marketing Message with an improved ballpark
  25. Building a dome and counting on a MLB team is BAD public policy. According to Wikipedia, The stadium was finished in 1990. It hosted the 1990 Davis Cup Finals that autumn, as well as several rock concerts, The Suncoast Dome finally got a regular tenant in 1991, when the Arena Football League's Tampa Bay Storm made their debut. Two years later, the National Hockey League's Tampa Bay Lightning made the stadium their home for three seasons. In the process, the Suncoast Dome was renamed the ThunderDome. Because of the large capacity of what was basically a park built for baseball, several NHL and AFL attendance records were set during the Lightning and Storm's tenures there. They weren’t “gambling” on having an MLB team.
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