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It's just a matter of agreeing or not with 'the laws' then. Not everybody agrees that 'the laws' are what they should be, and you can't say that they will be the same in the future so what's wrong in fighting to change them? Isn't that progress? that's fine and all but pointing backwards isn't going to help matters. progessive means looking forward and moving forward. you can't make laws because that is how things were in the past. today the US has a lot more ability to protect it's borders than it ever did. and it is not wise to think they will not use their new abilities because they used to not protect their borders and had no way of enforcing it or no way of returning people who showed up.

^_^ )-->QUOTE( ^_^ @ May 16 2006, 2:40 PM) 1149259[/snapback] yeah laws and ways of living change over time. shocking i know. progressive thinking and progessive society blows. what point? at the time the laws were different and we couldn't enforce the laws we have today back then. and we do not judge the past by the laws and ideals today because that is not fair to the past.

It's funny that everyone tries to say immigrants that came here 100 years ago were 'legal' :lol :lol :lol :lol All they had to do was pay for passage across the ocean, and sign a few documents. In fact, in some areas, they were greeted by politicians and lobbyists the moment they got off the boats. Give me a break. The standards for legalization present day is much more harsh.. yeah laws and ways of living change over time. shocking i know. progressive thinking and progessive society blows.

The level of racism in a country founded on legal immigration and laws is beyond belief. fixed that for ya

"What trillion dollar bill?" Castro says he will resign if US can prove he's wealthy 45 minutes ago HAVANA (AFP) - Cuban President Fidel Castro said he would offer his resignation if his arch-rival, the United States, can prove that he has a huge personal fortune as claimed by Forbes magazine. "If they prove that I have an account abroad, I will resign from my position, from my current responsibilities," Castro, who has ruled Cuba for 47 years, said in a lengthy television and radio appearance. Earlier this month, Castro was listed by Forbes as the seventh wealthiest ruler with 900 million dollars. The American magazine cited former Cuban officials as saying that Castro had skimmed profits from a Havana convention center, retail conglomerate Cimex and vaccine and pharmaceutical products firm Medicuba to amass his fortune. Forbes noted, however, that "Castro, for the record, disagrees, insisting his personal net worth is zero." http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20060516/od_af...DRpBHNlYwM3NTc-

hopefully this will stop most of the conspiracy talk US to release video of September 11 attack on Pentagon May 16 1:08 PM US/Eastern The US government has agreed to release video film Tuesday showing a hijacked jetliner strike the Pentagon on September 11, 2001. Taken by surveillance cameras in the Pentagon parking lot, the images have been the subject of lawsuits prompted in part by conspiracy theories surrounding the attack. The Justice Department, which had blocked their release, agreed to turn over the video clips now that the trial of Al Qaeda plotter Zacarias Moussaoui has ended, a Pentagon spokesman, Bryan Whitman, said. Whitman said the images appear to be the same as a series of still pictures previously seen on US television. "We fought hard to obtain this video because we felt that it was very important to complete the public record with respect to the terrorist attacks of September 11," said Tom Fitton, president of Judicial Watch, a group that sued for the release of the video. "Finally, we hope that this video will put to rest the conspiracy theories involving American Airlines Flight 77," he said in a statement. The group said it would post a copy of the video on its website, www.judicialwatch.org. The Pentagon admitted having the video last year, but said it could not release the film because it was part of its investigation into Moussaoui, Judicial Watch said. Moussaoui was sentenced to life in prison this month over the September 11 attacks conspiracy. Flight 77 slammed into the Pentagon at 9:37 am on September 11, killing 189 people in the jet and on the ground. During the Moussaoui trial, prosecutors showed pictures of burning bodies amd human remains as well as images of the explosion triggered by the Pentagon crash. http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/05/16/0...6.xsxvy62c.html

However, until now, Bush has not done a thing to fix the border security problem. I guess only now is the public outrage loud enough for him to hear in the White House. Why do you feel the need to talk out of your ass? 4,000 new border patrol agents have been hired under Bush significantly increasing it's size and capabilities, and this was all before the crap which has been going on in recent months. good so he threw money at the problem. -truth of the matter is the border patrol has averaged less and less arrests than the Clinton years -fines against companies who hired illegals has taken a STEEP decline since the 1990s -arrests pertaining to the smuggling/employment of illegals is also down significantly since the 1990s and all of this is costing us more what a bargain! here in america we tend not to celebrate effort but rather we celebrate results. i can't speak for you but you seem satisfied that we are spending more money and have more "size". that's good and all but we have less results. Why do you feel the need to talk out of your ass? to quote myself from another thread: # of fines: 1999: 417 2000:178 --------------- bush takes over --------------- 2001 100 2002 53 2003 162 2004 3 # of arrests: 1999: 2,849 2000: 953 --------------- bush takes over --------------- 2001 795 2002 495 2003 445 2004 n/a http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d05822t.pdf # of arrests by border patrol 1996: 1,549,876 1997:1,412,953 1998:1,555,776 1999:1,579,010 2000:1,676,438 ------------------ bush ------------------ 2001:1,266,214 2002:955,310 2003:931,557 2004: n/a 2005:~1,100,000 http://www.migrationinformation.org/Featur...play.cfm?id=370 so i guess you are right bush is trying, he just can't get results. yaaay for trying!

first I will show you the umm "evidence" and then the story. so you can be the judges: umm oh yeah the story: Northwestern suspends women's soccer team Associated Press EVANSTON, Ill. -- Northwestern University suspended its women's soccer team Monday while the school investigates alleged hazing involving players last year. The school learned of the allegations Monday, athletics director Mark Murphy said in a statement. "If the investigation shows that there has been a violation of Northwestern's policies, appropriate sanctions will be imposed and the Athletic Department may take additional action as well,'' Murphy said. The statement did not provide details about the alleged incident, and a Northwestern spokesman Alan Cubbage said the school would not comment further. A Web site on Monday displayed pictures allegedly of Northwestern soccer players in T-shirts and underwear, some wearing blindfolds and others with their hands tied behind their backs. Other women had words or pictures scrawled on their bodies and clothes, and it appeared some were drinking alcohol. Northwestern's Division of Student Affairs will conduct the investigation, Murphy said. "I have asked all Athletic Department staff, team coaches and members of the team to cooperate fully in the investigation by Student Affairs,'' he said. A message left at the office of women's soccer coach Jenny Haigh on Monday night was not immediately returned. The Wildcats' 2006 season is scheduled to begin in August. Northwestern finished with a 9-9-1 record last season. http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/story?id=2446321 all 46 pics

I don't think he has ever had a good outing. He is terrible. he picthed one scoreless against the nats in the 4-3 win. and he does have 5 holds this year so he had to have at least a few successful outings.

it's not about winning it's about getting better. at least that is the line the organization uses so might as well as get use out of a vet you are paying seems to be the line of thinking.

add one more to the list of criminals the dolphin's plan to suit up next year NFL Player Charged With DUI, Drug Possession Monday May 15, 2006 5:05pm Reporter: Abby Ross Posted By: Kevin King Pryor - Authorities in Mayes County have arrested Miami Dolphin defensive lineman and Broken Arrow resident Byron Keith Traylor on drug and alcohol charges. Traylor was arrested Saturday night in Pryor. Charges were filed against Traylor Monday. They include injuring a public building, driving under the influence of alcohol and possession of a controlled dangerous substance. He has since bonded out of jail. Traylor is a 15-year veteran of the National Football League and joined the Dolphins last year. He has also played with the Denver Broncos, Kansas City Chiefs, Chicago Bears and New England Patriots. Traylor went to college at Central Oklahoma. He was a high school star at Malvern, Arkansas. http://www.ktul.com/news/stories/0506/327946.html

courtesy of drudge: Text of Bush's Speech on Immigration May 15 8:15 PM US/Eastern Email this story By The Associated Press Text of President Bush's speech on immigration Monday night: Good evening. I have asked for a few minutes of your time to discuss a matter of national importance: the reform of America's immigration system. The issue of immigration stirs intense emotions and in recent weeks, Americans have seen those emotions on display. On the streets of major cities, crowds have rallied in support of those in our country illegally. At our southern border, others have organized to stop illegal immigrants from coming in. Across the country, Americans are trying to reconcile these contrasting images. And in Washington, the debate over immigration reform has reached a time of decision. Tonight, I will make it clear where I stand, and where I want to lead our country on this vital issue. We must begin by recognizing the problems with our immigration system. For decades, the United States has not been in complete control of its borders. As a result, many who want to work in our economy have been able to sneak across our border and millions have stayed. Once here, illegal immigrants live in the shadows of our society. Many use forged documents to get jobs, and that makes it difficult for employers to verify that the workers they hire are legal. Illegal immigration puts pressure on public schools and hospitals, strains state and local budgets, and brings crime to our communities. These are real problems, yet we must remember that the vast majority of illegal immigrants are decent people who work hard, support their families, practice their faith, and lead responsible lives. They are a part of American life but they are beyond the reach and protection of American law. We are a nation of laws, and we must enforce our laws. We are also a nation of immigrants, and we must uphold that tradition, which has strengthened our country in so many ways. These are not contradictory goals. America can be a lawful society and a welcoming society at the same time. We will fix the problems created by illegal immigration, and we will deliver a system that is secure, orderly and fair. So I support comprehensive immigration reform that will accomplish five clear objectives. First, the United States must secure its borders. This is a basic responsibility of a sovereign nation. It is also an urgent requirement of our national security. Our objective is straightforward: The border should be open to trade and lawful immigration and shut to illegal immigrants, as well as criminals, drug dealers and terrorists. I was the governor of a state that has a 1,200-mile border with Mexico. So I know how difficult it is to enforce the border, and how important it is. Since I became president, we have increased funding for border security by 66 percent, and expanded the Border Patrol from about 9,000 to 12,000 agents. The men and women of our Border Patrol are doing a fine job in difficult circumstances, and over the past five years, we have apprehended and sent home about 6 million people entering America illegally. Despite this progress, we do not yet have full control of the border, and I am determined to change that. Tonight I am calling on Congress to provide funding for dramatic improvements in manpower and technology at the border. By the end of 2008, we will increase the number of Border Patrol officers by an additional 6,000. When these new agents are deployed, we will have more than doubled the size of the Border Patrol during my presidency. At the same time, we are launching the most technologically advanced border security initiative in American history. We will construct high-tech fences in urban corridors, and build new patrol roads and barriers in rural areas. We will employ motion sensors infrared cameras and unmanned aerial vehicles to prevent illegal crossings. America has the best technology in the world and we will ensure that the Border Patrol has the technology they need to do their job and secure our border. Training thousands of new Border Patrol agents and bringing the most advanced technology to the border will take time. Yet the need to secure our border is urgent. So I am announcing several immediate steps to strengthen border enforcement during this period of transition: One way to help during this transition is to use the National Guard. So in coordination with governors, up to 6,000 Guard members will be deployed to our southern border. The Border Patrol will remain in the lead. The Guard will assist the Border Patrol by operating surveillance systems analyzing intelligence installing fences and vehicle barriers building patrol roads and providing training. Guard units will not be involved in direct law enforcement activities that duty will be done by the Border Patrol. This initial commitment of Guard members would last for a period of one year. After that, the number of Guard forces will be reduced as new Border Patrol agents and new technologies come online. It is important for Americans to know that we have enough Guard forces to win the war on terror, respond to natural disasters, and help secure our border. The United States is not going to militarize the southern border. Mexico is our neighbor, and our friend. We will continue to work cooperatively to improve security on both sides of the border, to confront common problems like drug trafficking and crime, and to reduce illegal immigration. Another way to help during this period of transition is through state and local law enforcement in our border communities. So we will increase federal funding for state and local authorities assisting the Border Patrol on targeted enforcement missions. And we will give state and local authorities the specialized training they need to help federal officers apprehend and detain illegal immigrants. State and local law enforcement officials are an important resource and they are part of our strategy to secure our border communities. The steps I have outlined will improve our ability to catch people entering our country illegally. At the same time, we must ensure that every illegal immigrant we catch crossing our southern border is returned home. More than 85 percent of the illegal immigrants we catch crossing the southern border are Mexicans, and most are sent back home within 24 hours. But when we catch illegal immigrants from other countries, it is not as easy to send them home. For many years, the government did not have enough space in our detention facilities to hold them while the legal process unfolded. So most were released back into our society and asked to return for a court date. When the date arrived, the vast majority did not show up. This practice, called "catch and release," is unacceptable and we will end it. We are taking several important steps to meet this goal. We have expanded the number of beds in our detention facilities, and we will continue to add more. We have expedited the legal process to cut the average deportation time. And we are making it clear to foreign governments that they must accept back their citizens who violate our immigration laws. As a result of these actions, we have ended "catch and release" for illegal immigrants from some countries. And I will ask Congress for additional funding and legal authority, so we can end "catch and release" at the southern border once and for all. When people know that they will be caught and sent home if they enter our country illegally, they will be less likely to try to sneak in. Second, to secure our border, we must create a temporary worker program. The reality is that there are many people on the other side of our border who will do anything to come to America to work and build a better life. They walk across miles of desert in the summer heat, or hide in the back of 18-wheelers to reach our country. This creates enormous pressure on our border that walls and patrols alone will not stop. To secure the border effectively, we must reduce the numbers of people trying to sneak across. Therefore, I support a temporary worker program that would create a legal path for foreign workers to enter our country in an orderly way, for a limited period of time. This program would match willing foreign workers with willing American employers for jobs Americans are not doing. Every worker who applies for the program would be required to pass criminal background checks. And temporary workers must return to their home country at the conclusion of their stay. A temporary worker program would meet the needs of our economy, and it would give honest immigrants a way to provide for their families while respecting the law. A temporary worker program would reduce the appeal of human smugglers and make it less likely that people would risk their lives to cross the border. It would ease the financial burden on state and local governments, by replacing illegal workers with lawful taxpayers. And above all, a temporary worker program would add to our security by making certain we know who is in our country and why they are here. Third, we need to hold employers to account for the workers they hire. It is against the law to hire someone who is in this country illegally. Yet businesses often cannot verify the legal status of their employees, because of the widespread problem of document fraud. Therefore, comprehensive immigration reform must include a better system for verifying documents and work eligibility. A key part of that system should be a new identification card for every legal foreign worker. This card should use biometric technology, such as digital fingerprints, to make it tamper-proof. A tamper-proof card would help us enforce the law and leave employers with no excuse for violating it. And by making it harder for illegal immigrants to find work in our country, we would discourage people from crossing the border illegally in the first place. Fourth, we must face the reality that millions of illegal immigrants are already here. They should not be given an automatic path to citizenship. This is amnesty, and I oppose it. Amnesty would be unfair to those who are here lawfully and it would invite further waves of illegal immigration. Some in this country argue that the solution is to deport every illegal immigrant and that any proposal short of this amounts to amnesty. I disagree. It is neither wise nor realistic to round up millions of people, many with deep roots in the United States, and send them across the border. There is a rational middle ground between granting an automatic path to citizenship for every illegal immigrant, and a program of mass deportation. That middle ground recognizes that there are differences between an illegal immigrant who crossed the border recently and someone who has worked here for many years, and has a home, a family, and an otherwise clean record. I believe that illegal immigrants who have roots in our country and want to stay should have to pay a meaningful penalty for breaking the law to pay their taxes to learn English and to work in a job for a number of years. People who meet these conditions should be able to apply for citizenship but approval would not be automatic, and they will have to wait in line behind those who played by the rules and followed the law. What I have just described is not amnesty it is a way for those who have broken the law to pay their debt to society, and demonstrate the character that makes a good citizen. Fifth, we must honor the great American tradition of the melting pot, which has made us one Nation out of many peoples. The success of our country depends upon helping newcomers assimilate into our society, and embrace our common identity as Americans. Americans are bound together by our shared ideals, an appreciation of our history, respect for the flag we fly, and an ability to speak and write the English language. English is also the key to unlocking the opportunity of America. English allows newcomers to go from picking crops to opening a grocery from cleaning offices to running offices from a life of low- paying jobs to a diploma, a career, and a home of their own. When immigrants assimilate and advance in our society, they realize their dreams, they renew our spirit and they add to the unity of America. Tonight, I want to speak directly to members of the House and the Senate: An immigration reform bill needs to be comprehensive, because all elements of this problem must be addressed together or none of them will be solved at all. The House has passed an immigration bill. The Senate should act by the end of this month so we can work out the differences between the two bills, and Congress can pass a comprehensive bill for me to sign into law. America needs to conduct this debate on immigration in a reasoned and respectful tone. Feelings run deep on this issue and as we work it out, all of us need to keep some things in mind. We cannot build a unified country by inciting people to anger, or playing on anyone's fears, or exploiting the issue of immigration for political gain. We must always remember that real lives will be affected by our debates and decisions, and that every human being has dignity and value no matter what their citizenship papers say. I know many of you listening tonight have a parent or a grandparent who came here from another country with dreams of a better life. You know what freedom meant to them, and you know that America is a more hopeful country because of their hard work and sacrifice. As President, I have had the opportunity to meet people of many backgrounds, and hear what America means to them. On a visit to Bethesda Naval Hospital, Laura and I met a wounded Marine named Guadalupe Denogean. Master Gunnery Sergeant Denogean came to the United States from Mexico when he was a boy. He spent his summers picking crops with his family, and then he volunteered for the United States Marine Corps as soon as he was able. During the liberation of Iraq, Master Gunnery Sergeant Denogean was seriously injured. When asked if he had any requests, he made two a promotion for the corporal who helped rescue him and the chance to become an American citizen. And when this brave Marine raised his right hand, and swore an oath to become a citizen of the country he had defended for more than 26 years, I was honored to stand at his side. We will always be proud to welcome people like Guadalupe Denogean as fellow Americans. Our new immigrants are just what they have always been people willing to risk everything for the dream of freedom. And America remains what she has always been the great hope on the horizon an open door to the future a blessed and promised land. We honor the heritage of all who come here, no matter where they are from, because we trust in our country's genius for making us all Americans, one nation under God. Thank you, and good night. END http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/05/15/D8HKHJG80.html

has it caught on yet?

stats: -about 800 detainees -10 have been charged with something -275 have been released -some detainees were minors (aged 14-17) -none of the names released are big time known terrorists Associated Press Update 1: Pentagon Releases Gitmo Detainees' Names By ANDREW SELSKY , 05.15.2006, 06:12 PM The Pentagon gave The Associated Press on Monday the first list of everyone who has been held at Guantanamo Bay, more than four years after it opened the detention center in Cuba. But none of the most notorious terrorist suspects were included, raising questions about where America's most dangerous prisoners are being held. The handover marks the first time that everyone who has been held at Guantanamo Bay in the Bush administration's war on terror has been identified, according to Navy Lt. Cmdr. Chito Peppler. A total 201 of the names have never been disclosed by the Defense Department before. "This list takes us one step closer to our goal of fully reporting who has been swept into U.S military custody in Guantanamo, and how they and their cases are being handled," said David Tomlin, the AP's assistant general counsel, adding that the Pentagon did not give all the information the AP sought in a Freedom of Information Act request. Pentagon spokesman Bryan Whitman said the names of all detainees held at Guantanamo Bay Naval Base were previously kept classified because of "the security operation as well as the intelligence operation that takes place down there." In a briefing in Washington, he did not explain why the Pentagon did not contest the AP's request for the release of the names, as it did with previous Freedom of Information Act requests for prisoner information. Just last month, the Pentagon released 558 names of current and former detainees to AP. The release will help lawyers and other advocates track who has been held at the base and find former detainees to help investigate allegations of abuse, said Priti Patel, an attorney for New York-based Human Rights First. While the release of Guantanamo names is welcome, human rights groups also want to learn the identities of all those held in Iraq, Afghanistan and secret locations, Patel said. "There's still much more in darkness," she said. For example, the United States has not disclosed where it is holding Khalid Shaikh Mohammed or Ramzi Binalshibh, who allegedly plotted the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, and other captured top al-Qaida figures. The list released Monday also does not specify what has happened to former Guantanamo Bay detainees. The fate of some is documented. All British nationals held at Guantanamo Bay, for example, were transferred back to Britain. But what has become of dozens of other detainees was not known. Some could be free. Others could be in secret U.S. detention centers, or in torture cells of prisons in other countries. Jumana Musa, an official with Amnesty International's Washington office, said there have long been rumors that the CIA has a secret prison at Guantanamo Bay, an isolated base along the Caribbean which Cuba granted to Washington by treaty a century ago. But Peppler, in an e-mail to the AP, emphatically ruled that out. "Absolutely not," Peppler said. "There are no other detention facilities other than those under DoD control in Guantanamo Bay. The AP sought the names, photos and other details of current and former Guantanamo Bay detainees through a Freedom of Information Act request on Jan. 18. After the Pentagon didn't respond, the AP filed a lawsuit in March seeking compliance. The Pentagon later agreed to turn over much of the information. Motions are pending in court for additional information, including the height and weight of the roughly 480 detainees still at Guantanamo Bay to assist with news coverage of a hunger strike. The Pentagon refused to release that information, arguing that medical records are private. The military said the hunger strike began in August and has involved a maximum of 131 detainees. The Pentagon also argued that releasing photos of current detainees would damage U.S. intelligence gathering. Releasing pictures would make it easier for al-Qaida to retaliate against detainees suspected of cooperating with interrogators, said Paul B. Rester, the director of the Joint Intelligence Group at Guantanamo. That would make it harder for the U.S. to collect intelligence, Rester said in a May 10 affidavit filed in response to the AP's Freedom of Information Act suit. "No human intelligence sources interested in cooperating with the United States officials under any hope of anonymity will be willing to do so if their photographs and names are publicly released," he said. The U.S. military says 759 detainees have been held at Guantanamo Bay since the detention center began taking prisoners in the U.S. war on terror in January 2002. About 275 have been released or transferred. The U.S. has filed charges against 10 detainees. The Pentagon says another 136 detainees at Guantanamo have been approved for release or transfer, but their departure in some cases has been delayed as Washington tries to persuade their home countries to accept them and receive assurances they won't be treated inhumanely. In April, the Department of Defense released to the AP the names of 558 detainees who had a Combatant Status Review Tribunal, which determines whether they are "enemy combatants" who should be held. That list, however, did not include about 200 detainees who were released or transferred before the Combatant Status Review Tribunals began in July 2004. Those names were among those listed Monday. _______ Associated Press writers Robert Burns in Washington and Ben Fox in San Juan, Puerto Rico, contributed to this report. http://www.forbes.com/technology/feeds/ap/.../ap2747882.html download the list: pdf file

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In the process of this discussion I discovered I was wrong and gave you the hint so you could prove it. I wanted to see if you could get the rest yourself. :blink: i think that is the game dubya might be playing with america.

it's over NEW: Marlins fail to meet Wolff?s deadline Web Posted: 05/15/2006 03:49 PM CDT Tom Orsborn Express-News Staff Writer Amid cordial final exchanges, the flirting between local officials and Major League Baseball?s Florida Marlins came to an end Monday as a deadline for a relocation agreement that would have moved the team to San Antonio later in the decade expired. Responding to the May 15 deadline imposed last month by County Judge Nelson Wolff, the president of MLB said the team?s goal now is to work out a deal to stay in the Miami area. But Bob DuPuy added in a letter to Wolff that his efforts to bring the team here were not in vain and ?you have positioned your city to be strongly considered for a future Major League Baseball team.? DuPuy also left the door open for the Marlins to re-open talks. ?If the Marlins do not reach a successful conclusion, we would, of course intensify our discussions with you,? DuPuy said. Meanwhile, Wolff and Mayor Phil Hardberger said they would continue efforts to bring a second major-league franchise to San Antonio. http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/stories...n.45008aac.html

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If you are tired of it, know you are being tracked....then sue the government. If it is illegal, it will be stopped. That simple. good luck a citizen or anyone not in the "know" trying to find out if someone is tracking their calls. the nsa won't own up to it. they won't even let the dept. of justice know what they are up to and no one in the white house seems to care. abc to nsa: we have an informant telling us you are tracking our calls. nsa: nope. abc: well we were told.... nsa: yeah well you can't prove it. abc: we'll inform the doj ab... nsa: oh yeah them we already told them to foad off.

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Federal Source to ABC News: We Know Who You're Calling May 15, 2006 10:33 AM Brian Ross and Richard Esposito Report: A senior federal law enforcement official tells ABC News the government is tracking the phone numbers we (Brian Ross and Richard Esposito) call in an effort to root out confidential sources. "It's time for you to get some new cell phones, quick," the source told us in an in-person conversation. ABC News does not know how the government determined who we are calling, or whether our phone records were provided to the government as part of the recently-disclosed NSA collection of domestic phone calls. Other sources have told us that phone calls and contacts by reporters for ABC News, along with the New York Times and the Washington Post, are being examined as part of a widespread CIA leak investigation. One former official was asked to sign a document stating he was not a confidential source for New York Times reporter James Risen. Our reports on the CIA's secret prisons in Romania and Poland were known to have upset CIA officials. The CIA asked for an FBI investigation of leaks of classified information following those reports. People questioned by the FBI about leaks of intelligence information say the CIA was also disturbed by ABC News reports that revealed the use of CIA predator missiles inside Pakistan. Under Bush Administration guidelines, it is not considered illegal for the government to keep track of numbers dialed by phone customers. The official who warned ABC News said there was no indication our phones were being tapped so the content of the conversation could be recorded. A pattern of phone calls from a reporter, however, could provide valuable clues for leak investigators. http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2006/0...al_source_.html

Yup, you're right. In the process of discussion, it has been proven that Clinton did improve the border. I concede that point. But it still points a smile on my face that I got to tell you how to prove it. so wait you knew you were wrong and continued to say you subscribe you a false notion and idea? that makes sense. you should be proud i guess, not even facts you know and understand can change your mind about false assumptions. What, that Bush has increased border security? Significantly increasing bordper patrol personnel to protect the gaps (granted, the total training level has gone down because he rushed them into the field), ordering more searches of crossing and border region vehicle searches, providing nice biometric technology for official border crossings that makes sure everybody who crosses there is properly identified. i said he has thrown more money at the issue the facts show that. he is trying but here in america we don't reward trying we reward DOING. and things have not really gotten better since the last administartion, seemingly have only taken a step down overall even though we are throwing more money at the issue and that is not a good thing. There's also the greatly increased airport security and better port container controls if you want to count those. 1- you mean the same ports he wanted to hand over to an "enemy"? 2- as of when was airport security an issue? i must have missed any attacks on airports. oh and before you pull out the 9/11 card did we not know these guys who were on the planes? did we not get them on video tape? were they not under watch by the government? we had all the chances in the world to stop them but the intelligence all went to waste. 9/11 was more or an itelligence issue than an airport security one.

What orders would I give? Shoot to kill. I'm sorry to sound harsh, but that's the way it is. What should someone who is trespassing on foreign soil expect? yeah give the orders to shoot and kill i mean it's worked before :plain it's not that simple mexican-americans do live on the border and it might be hard when the policy is shoot first ask questions later Border Security Plan Worries Texas Town Email this Story May 14, 7:43 AM (ET) By ALICIA A. CALDWELL (AP) Valerio Pando is shown Saturday, May 13, 2006, during an interview in Redford, Texas. Pando still... REDFORD, Texas (AP) - The last time the U.S. military posted troops on the border near this tiny cluster of farms and ranches, an 18-year-old goat herder was shot to death. Hardly a day passes that Esequiel Hernandez Jr.'s family and neighbors don't think of May 20, 1997, the day a Marine corporal shot and killed him. With President Bush considering plans to deploy National Guard troops along the Mexican border, Hernandez's family is worried that other border residents or even his nephews, who tend goats along the same rugged West Texas desert where he was killed, could be the next victims. "There was no motive for them to (shoot) Esequiel and I worry that the same thing could happen, or worse," his grandfather, 79-year-old Valerio Pando, said in Spanish. (AP) Valerio Pando, left, and Rebecca Hernandez are shown Saturday, May 13, 2006, during an interview in... Full Image It is widely speculated that President Bush will unveil a plan to send troops to the border during a Monday night speech about immigration reform. Details of the plan are unclear but at least one defense official estimated that thousands of troops could be deployed as part of a security initiative. The last time area residents saw the military working on the border in their Big Bend region town, the Marines assigned to an anti-drug mission were explaining what led to Esequiel Hernandez's death. At the time of the shooting, the military said the teen, who was carrying a .22-caliber rifle, fired twice at the camouflaged troops and raised his gun to fire a third time when Cpl. Clemente Banuelos shot back. Hernandez's family disputes that account. Several months after the shooting, a grand jury declined to indict Banuelos. But a congressional review of the incident later criticized the U.S. Justice Department for its handling of the case. Similar anti-drug patrols involving the military were suspended after the shooting. Dianna Valenzuela, a 54-year-old farmer who lives in the area and knows the Hernandez family, said bringing troops back to the border in any capacity is a recipe for disaster. "Wherever the military is, they are trained to shoot first and ask questions later," Valenzuela said.

i didnt realize there was a difference between brokeback gay and ryan seacrest gay. one is open and one isn't. so the question i asked was gay as in "happy"? gay as in obvious? or gay as in metrosexual in denial? and i got my answer. :whistle

Gay is ok by me. :plain flinstones gay? brokeback gay? or ryan seacrest gay?