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why not limewire?

using data provided by AT&T, Verizon and BellSouth, That's why I have Nextel. "Can you hear me now?" but if you call someone who is on any of those services or they call you it will show up anyway.

I didn't read the whole article. But, this is a secret program? I read news articles about it a couple years ago. Some secret... and you got republicans running around saying its a good program even though the cat is out of the bag that the terrorists will fall for it anyway. conyer or something like that, some rep. from texas, was just on fox news basically saying terrorists will not try and stop using the phones basically. :banghead

May 10, 2006, 3:36PM Okla. Last State to Legalize Tattoos ? 2006 The Associated Press OKLAHOMA CITY ? Oklahoma became the last state to make tattoos legal when the governor signed legislation Wednesday to license and regulate tattoo artists and parlors. The measure ends a ban on tattooing that had been in effect since 1963. The new law takes effect Nov. 1. "Regardless of one's personal views about tattoos, the plain fact is that tattooing is prevalent," Gov. Brad Henry said. The legislation calls for sanitation and health guidelines for tattoo artists and parlors and periodic inspections by the state Health Department. Previous attempts to lift the ban over the past decade were fought on health as well as moral grounds. The Health Department endorsed the measure after expressing concern about an increase in hepatitis infections related to unsanitary tattooing practices. "It is important that we do what we can to make sure those who get a tattoo don't also end up contracting a disease such as HIV or hepatitis B or C," Henry said. The measure makes it illegal to tattoo anyone younger than 18. http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/nation/3854555.html

$500 for the bottom end model, are they out of their f***ing minds? Games will probably be $50 or $60, you buy 4 or 5 games plus the system and you're already at almost-$800+ And they'll probably sell on eBay for a huge premium also for the first few months, absurd. and they are selling it at a loss! :blink: seriously if they charged what it cost it would be closer to $800. that is one of the things going for it it will be one of the cheapest blu-ray dvd players out there and also be a gaming system on top of it. but yeah i heard games will be abour $70. if the wii is around $150 i might just get that because hell that will be the cheapest thing out there.

http://www.techeblog.com/index.php/tech-ga...s-and-e3-mishap the ps3 froze up at the e3 :confused so much for that $599 getting all the kinks out

NSA has massive database of Americans' phone calls By Leslie Cauley, USA TODAY The National Security Agency has been secretly collecting the phone call records of tens of millions of Americans, using data provided by AT&T, Verizon and BellSouth, people with direct knowledge of the arrangement told USA TODAY. The NSA program reaches into homes and businesses across the nation by amassing information about the calls of ordinary Americans most of whom aren't suspected of any crime. This program does not involve the NSA listening to or recording conversations. But the spy agency is using the data to analyze calling patterns in an effort to detect terrorist activity, sources said in separate interviews. QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS: The NSA record collection program "It's the largest database ever assembled in the world," said one person, who, like the others who agreed to talk about the NSA's activities, declined to be identified by name or affiliation. The agency's goal is "to create a database of every call ever made" within the nation's borders, this person added. For the customers of these companies, it means that the government has detailed records of calls they made across town or across the country to family members, co-workers, business contacts and others. The three telecommunications companies are working under contract with the NSA, which launched the program in 2001 shortly after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, the sources said. The program is aimed at identifying and tracking suspected terrorists, they said. The sources would talk only under a guarantee of anonymity because the NSA program is secret. Air Force Gen. Michael Hayden, nominated Monday by President Bush to become the director of the CIA, headed the NSA from March 1999 to April 2005. In that post, Hayden would have overseen the agency's domestic call-tracking program. Hayden declined to comment about the program. The NSA's domestic program, as described by sources, is far more expansive than what the White House has acknowledged. Last year, Bush said he had authorized the NSA to eavesdrop without warrants on international calls and international e-mails of people suspected of having links to terrorists when one party to the communication is in the USA. Warrants have also not been used in the NSA's efforts to create a national call database. In defending the previously disclosed program, Bush insisted that the NSA was focused exclusively on international calls. "In other words," Bush explained, "one end of the communication must be outside the United States." As a result, domestic call records those of calls that originate and terminate within U.S. borders were believed to be private. Sources, however, say that is not the case. With access to records of billions of domestic calls, the NSA has gained a secret window into the communications habits of millions of Americans. Customers' names, street addresses and other personal information are not being handed over as part of NSA's domestic program, the sources said. But the phone numbers the NSA collects can easily be cross-checked with other databases to obtain that information. Don Weber, a senior spokesman for the NSA, declined to discuss the agency's operations. "Given the nature of the work we do, it would be irresponsible to comment on actual or alleged operational issues; therefore, we have no information to provide," he said. "However, it is important to note that NSA takes its legal responsibilities seriously and operates within the law." The White House would not discuss the domestic call-tracking program. "There is no domestic surveillance without court approval," said Dana Perino, deputy press secretary, referring to actual eavesdropping. She added that all national intelligence activities undertaken by the federal government "are lawful, necessary and required for the pursuit of al-Qaeda and affiliated terrorists." All government-sponsored intelligence activities "are carefully reviewed and monitored," Perino said. She also noted that "all appropriate members of Congress have been briefed on the intelligence efforts of the United States." The government is collecting "external" data on domestic phone calls but is not intercepting "internals," a term for the actual content of the communication, according to a U.S. intelligence official familiar with the program. This kind of data collection from phone companies is not uncommon; it's been done before, though never on this large a scale, the official said. The data are used for "social network analysis," the official said, meaning to study how terrorist networks contact each other and how they are tied together. Carriers uniquely positioned AT&T recently merged with SBC and kept the AT&T name. Verizon, BellSouth and AT&T are the nation's three biggest telecommunications companies; they provide local and wireless phone service to more than 200 million customers. The three carriers control vast networks with the latest communications technologies. They provide an array of services: local and long-distance calling, wireless and high-speed broadband, including video. Their direct access to millions of homes and businesses has them uniquely positioned to help the government keep tabs on the calling habits of Americans. Among the big telecommunications companies, only Qwest has refused to help the NSA, the sources said. According to multiple sources, Qwest declined to participate because it was uneasy about the legal implications of handing over customer information to the government without warrants. Qwest's refusal to participate has left the NSA with a hole in its database. Based in Denver, Qwest provides local phone service to 14 million customers in 14 states in the West and Northwest. But AT&T and Verizon also provide some services primarily long-distance and wireless to people who live in Qwest's region. Therefore, they can provide the NSA with at least some access in that area. Created by President Truman in 1952, during the Korean War, the NSA is charged with protecting the United States from foreign security threats. The agency was considered so secret that for years the government refused to even confirm its existence. Government insiders used to joke that NSA stood for "No Such Agency." In 1975, a congressional investigation revealed that the NSA had been intercepting, without warrants, international communications for more than 20 years at the behest of the CIA and other agencies. The spy campaign, code-named "Shamrock," led to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA), which was designed to protect Americans from illegal eavesdropping. Enacted in 1978, FISA lays out procedures that the U.S. government must follow to conduct electronic surveillance and physical searches of people believed to be engaged in espionage or international terrorism against the United States. A special court, which has 11 members, is responsible for adjudicating requests under FISA. Over the years, NSA code-cracking techniques have continued to improve along with technology. The agency today is considered expert in the practice of "data mining" sifting through reams of information in search of patterns. Data mining is just one of many tools NSA analysts and mathematicians use to crack codes and track international communications. Paul Butler, a former U.S. prosecutor who specialized in terrorism crimes, said FISA approval generally isn't necessary for government data-mining operations. "FISA does not prohibit the government from doing data mining," said Butler, now a partner with the law firm Akin Gump Strauss Hauer & Feld in Washington, D.C. The caveat, he said, is that "personal identifiers" such as names, Social Security numbers and street addresses can't be included as part of the search. "That requires an additional level of probable cause," he said. The usefulness of the NSA's domestic phone-call database as a counterterrorism tool is unclear. Also unclear is whether the database has been used for other purposes. The NSA's domestic program raises legal questions. Historically, AT&T and the regional phone companies have required law enforcement agencies to present a court order before they would even consider turning over a customer's calling data. Part of that owed to the personality of the old Bell Telephone System, out of which those companies grew. Ma Bell's bedrock principle protection of the customer guided the company for decades, said Gene Kimmelman, senior public policy director of Consumers Union. "No court order, no customer information period. That's how it was for decades," he said. The concern for the customer was also based on law: Under Section 222 of the Communications Act, first passed in 1934, telephone companies are prohibited from giving out information regarding their customers' calling habits: whom a person calls, how often and what routes those calls take to reach their final destination. Inbound calls, as well as wireless calls, also are covered. The financial penalties for violating Section 222, one of many privacy reinforcements that have been added to the law over the years, can be stiff. The Federal Communications Commission, the nation's top telecommunications regulatory agency, can levy fines of up to $130,000 per day per violation, with a cap of $1.325 million per violation. The FCC has no hard definition of "violation." In practice, that means a single "violation" could cover one customer or 1 million. In the case of the NSA's international call-tracking program, Bush signed an executive order allowing the NSA to engage in eavesdropping without a warrant. The president and his representatives have since argued that an executive order was sufficient for the agency to proceed. Some civil liberties groups, including the American Civil Liberties Union, disagree. Companies approached The NSA's domestic program began soon after the Sept. 11 attacks, according to the sources. Right around that time, they said, NSA representatives approached the nation's biggest telecommunications companies. The agency made an urgent pitch: National security is at risk, and we need your help to protect the country from attacks. The agency told the companies that it wanted them to turn over their "call-detail records," a complete listing of the calling histories of their millions of customers. In addition, the NSA wanted the carriers to provide updates, which would enable the agency to keep tabs on the nation's calling habits. The sources said the NSA made clear that it was willing to pay for the cooperation. AT&T, which at the time was headed by C. Michael Armstrong, agreed to help the NSA. So did BellSouth, headed by F. Duane Ackerman; SBC, headed by Ed Whitacre; and Verizon, headed by Ivan Seidenberg. With that, the NSA's domestic program began in earnest. AT&T, when asked about the program, replied with a comment prepared for USA TODAY: "We do not comment on matters of national security, except to say that we only assist law enforcement and government agencies charged with protecting national security in strict accordance with the law." In another prepared comment, BellSouth said: "BellSouth does not provide any confidential customer information to the NSA or any governmental agency without proper legal authority." Verizon, the USA's No. 2 telecommunications company behind AT&T, gave this statement: "We do not comment on national security matters, we act in full compliance with the law and we are committed to safeguarding our customers' privacy." Qwest spokesman Robert Charlton said: "We can't talk about this. It's a classified situation." In December, The New York Times revealed that Bush had authorized the NSA to wiretap, without warrants, international phone calls and e-mails that travel to or from the USA. The following month, the Electronic Frontier Foundation, a civil liberties group, filed a class-action lawsuit against AT&T. The lawsuit accuses the company of helping the NSA spy on U.S. phone customers. Last month, U.S. Attorney General Alberto Gonzales alluded to that possibility. Appearing at a House Judiciary Committee hearing, Gonzales was asked whether he thought the White House has the legal authority to monitor domestic traffic without a warrant. Gonzales' reply: "I wouldn't rule it out." His comment marked the first time a Bush appointee publicly asserted that the White House might have that authority. Similarities in programs The domestic and international call-tracking programs have things in common, according to the sources. Both are being conducted without warrants and without the approval of the FISA court. The Bush administration has argued that FISA's procedures are too slow in some cases. Officials, including Gonzales, also make the case that the USA Patriot Act gives them broad authority to protect the safety of the nation's citizens. The chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, Sen. Pat Roberts, R-Kan., would not confirm the existence of the program. In a statement, he said, "I can say generally, however, that our subcommittee has been fully briefed on all aspects of the Terrorist Surveillance Program. ... I remain convinced that the program authorized by the president is lawful and absolutely necessary to protect this nation from future attacks." The chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, Rep. Pete Hoekstra, R-Mich., declined to comment. One company differs One major telecommunications company declined to participate in the program: Qwest. According to sources familiar with the events, Qwest's CEO at the time, Joe Nacchio, was deeply troubled by the NSA's assertion that Qwest didn't need a court order or approval under FISA to proceed. Adding to the tension, Qwest was unclear about who, exactly, would have access to its customers' information and how that information might be used. Financial implications were also a concern, the sources said. Carriers that illegally divulge calling information can be subjected to heavy fines. The NSA was asking Qwest to turn over millions of records. The fines, in the aggregate, could have been substantial. The NSA told Qwest that other government agencies, including the FBI, CIA and DEA, also might have access to the database, the sources said. As a matter of practice, the NSA regularly shares its information known as "product" in intelligence circles with other intelligence groups. Even so, Qwest's lawyers were troubled by the expansiveness of the NSA request, the sources said. The NSA, which needed Qwest's participation to completely cover the country, pushed back hard. Trying to put pressure on Qwest, NSA representatives pointedly told Qwest that it was the lone holdout among the big telecommunications companies. It also tried appealing to Qwest's patriotic side: In one meeting, an NSA representative suggested that Qwest's refusal to contribute to the database could compromise national security, one person recalled. In addition, the agency suggested that Qwest's foot-dragging might affect its ability to get future classified work with the government. Like other big telecommunications companies, Qwest already had classified contracts and hoped to get more. Unable to get comfortable with what NSA was proposing, Qwest's lawyers asked NSA to take its proposal to the FISA court. According to the sources, the agency refused. The NSA's explanation did little to satisfy Qwest's lawyers. "They told (Qwest) they didn't want to do that because FISA might not agree with them," one person recalled. For similar reasons, this person said, NSA rejected Qwest's suggestion of getting a letter of authorization from the U.S. attorney general's office. A second person confirmed this version of events. In June 2002, Nacchio resigned amid allegations that he had misled investors about Qwest's financial health. But Qwest's legal questions about the NSA request remained. Unable to reach agreement, Nacchio's successor, Richard Notebaert, finally pulled the plug on the NSA talks in late 2004, the sources said. Contributing: John Diamond Posted 5/10/2006 11:16 PM ET http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/20...htm?POE=NEWISVA

they should run this commercial on tv. its good for men and women in any part of the body apparently. http://www.shaveeverywhere.com/index.html

Forsberg could be out until '07 after surgeryAssociated Press PHILADELPHIA -- Philadelphia Flyers center Peter Forsberg needs surgery to repair ligament problems in both of his ankles, injuries that will force him to miss the start of the season and could sideline him until January. "I wish I could go back and prove it right now that when I come back I will be a better player," Forsberg said Wednesday. "And I feel as bad as anybody that I have to get this done." Forsberg said he would have surgery on his right ankle early next week and the left ankle will be repaired when the right one has healed. Forsberg said doctors told him each ankle should take four-to-six weeks to heal. Forsberg already had surgery recommended by a specialist in North Carolina, and saw another specialist for a second opinion in Houston on Tuesday, who also said Forsberg needed surgery. "It's going to be hard. It's going to be a lot of rehab," Forsberg said. "When I come back, it's going to be so much better." A precision passer and prolific scorer, Forsberg is best known for his offensive skill. He had 19 goals and 75 points in his first season with the Flyers after leaving Colorado to sign a two-year, $11.5 million contract last summer. Forsberg, an MVP with the Avalanche in 2003, said after the Flyers were eliminated in the first round of the playoffs that he would probably need surgery on his right ankle that could prevent him from starting next season on time. It turned out to be much worse. Forsberg has loose ligaments in his ankles that were more uncomfortable than painful. The condition affected his balance, put added stress on his legs and made it difficult to keep his right foot in his skate. "The boot doesn't fit my foot, my foot doesn't stick in the skate and then I can't skate," Forsberg said. "If I get it done, straighten up the foot and repair the ligaments I think it's going to be fine." Often considered one of the world's premier hockey players, Forsberg also had a groin injury that sidelined him for 22 games. His impact was obvious. Philadelphia was 35-16-9 with him in the lineup and 10-10-2 without him. Flyers general manager Bob Clarke said surgery during this season was never an option, and hopes the Flyers can play well next season until Forsberg returns to the lineup. "If he is going to have a successful rest of his career, he has to get this done," Clarke said. "He can't go this way or he is going to have this constant groin problem and back problems that this causes." Forsberg, who led Sweden to an Olympic gold medal in Torino, promised when he returned next season that Flyers fans would really see just how great he could be. "I am looking forward to coming back and start playing again and playing at the level I think I can play at because I don't think I was playing at my best last year," he said. "I think I had been getting worse and I am just so excited to come back." http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=2440565

Debating politics goes no where, no ones just going to change their mind, ight as well debate religion while your at it.. pastafarianism is the way to go http://www.venganza.org/

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To be fair, the only reason FDR started the Manhatten Project really was the fact the Germans were close to a nuke even before the war. They would have likely been the first, but their policies drove all of the top scientists out of Germany. yeah the history channel ran a thing like a month ago about einstien coming over to meet with fdr to try and convince him to start a program and let him know what the germans were up to. it was part of that 10 days that unexpectedly change america series. the germans problem was they went about the hard way to make a bomb they went for a fission bomb versus a fusion bomb, maybe it is reversed, whichever one is harder to make the germans went that way.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story.../offbase/060510 The Babe may not hold the Home Run record anymore but he'll always be the Home Run King....... And if u take your time to read this you''ll see why he's the greatest of all-time and shows why being the greatest doesn't always mean about stats.... Play the Video Ever hear of Hank Aaron? :whistle :shifty ever hear of Sadaharu Oh :mischief

Reagan had nothing to do with the fall of soviet union. That's why I said it was a good lie. I don't see how being against the war in Iraq is against hunting down osama, honestly. Most democrats still support the war in Afghanistan, you know, where the guy responsible for 9/11 was last reported to be. How is being against letting the Saudi's have port's in the US make them soft on defense? That's stupid. FDR started the Manhattan project. What does this have to do with anything? i am saying those things to show democrats aren't weak against the enemies. :shifty

Number 6 Democrat's are against getting tough with our enemies That's not a lie and history supports this assessment. :lol So Truman wasn't tough with our enemies nor Kennedy? And Nixon was real tough against our enemies considering he spied on his own political enemies. I am only using the past 50 years because thats really all you can consider with the state of the modern parties. Anything beyond is really reaching for current day party philosophy. Hey, Ronald Reagan singlehandedly defeated the communists. Ooh, yeah, that's a good republican lie too! the communists really defeated themselves although reagan did a good job, i would think Nixon would be more important to the soviet fall between the two of them. democrats were and i think still for hunting down UBL you know the guy responsible for 9/11 he is an enemy. democrats were also against rewarding countries like saudi arabia with port deal on our soil. FDR pushed along the manhattan project.

1998 is the first year that Clinton proclaimed a budget surplus. All the surpluses you mentioned were budget surpluses, not what really did happen. The actual deficits for FY 1998 - FY 2001 were (in billions) $113, $130, $18, and $133. During that time, while the budget was for a combined $559 billion surplus, the reality was a $394 deficit (or, about 10 months worth of last year's deficit). In total, the budget for those four years was off by $953 billion. The CBO is just that. However, they do not receive any revenues or make any expenditures, just budgets and use historical budgeted figures. The US Treasury is the reality. The receive the revenues and make the expenditures. In short, the US Treasury has the historical real figures, whereas the CBO has the planned amounts. Just as I can budget my household, and show a surplus, my wife can, in reality, turn that into a deficit. gotcha :thumbup

You are correct in that the budget and deficit are different. The 1998 budget was a hoax, the the deficit is reality. While Clinton may have budgeted for a surplus, in reality, the budget was not met and a deficit did indeed occur. As of FY 2005, the actual amount of debt held by the public, as opposed the budgeted amount, was $4.601 trillion of the national debt. i am not sure what you are looking at for the fy 1998 info. according to the congressional budget office's historical report: http://www.cbo.gov/budget/historical.pdf there was a budget surplus of $1.9 billion in fy 1999 and $86.4 billion in fy 2000. and then there were overall surplusses of $69.3, $125.6, $236.2, $128.2 (in billions) fy 1998- fy 2001. the congressional revenues were that much greater than their outlays those years, thus those were surplusses. I am not sure why the cbo would either lie or not correct their info. and yes you are right I was reading it wrong before the current public debt is $4.59 trillion. (fy 2005 report). it has only gone up, it is the percentage of the debt the public owns that went down under clinton and rose again under bush. but the actual $ amount went up under both.

What were the numbers of arrests durring the different clinton years just out of curiousity? the report went from 1999-2004 # of fines: 1999: 417 2000:178 --------------- bush takes over --------------- 2001 100 2002 53 2003 162 2004 3 # of arrests: 1999: 2,849 2000: 953 --------------- bush takes over --------------- 2001 795 2002 495 2003 445 2004 n/a http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d05822t.pdf

the bill increases minimum wage and whenever congress gets a raise the minimum wage also goes up the same percent. " 109th CONGRESS 2d Session S. 2725 To amend the Fair Labor Standards Act of 1938 to provide for an increase in the Federal minimum wage and to ensure that increases in the Federal minimum wage keep pace with any pay adjustments for Members of Congress. IN THE SENATE OF THE UNITED STATES May 4, 2006 Mrs. CLINTON (for herself, Mr. KENNEDY, Mr. JEFFORDS, Mr. LEAHY, Mr. HARKIN, and Mr. OBAMA) introduced the following bill; which was read twice and referred to the Committee on Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions A BILL To amend the Fair Labor Standards Act of 1938 to provide for an increase in the Federal minimum wage and to ensure that increases in the Federal minimum wage keep pace with any pay adjustments for Members of Congress. Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE. This Act may be cited as the `Standing with Minimum Wage Earners Act of 2006'. SEC. 2. MINIMUM WAGE. (a) In General- Section 6(a)(1) of the Fair Labor Standards Act of 1938 (29 U.S.C. 206(a)(1)) is amended to read as follows: `(1)(A) except as otherwise provided in this section, not less than-- `(i) $5.85 an hour, beginning on the 60th day after the date of enactment of the Standing with Minimum Wage Earners Act of 2006; `(ii) $6.55 an hour, beginning 12 months after that 60th day, adjusted for that year as provided for in subparagraph (B); and `(iii) $7.25 an hour, beginning 24 months after that 60th day, adjusted each year as provided for in subparagraph (B); and `(B) the wage provided for under clauses (ii) and (iii) of subparagraph (A) shall be automatically increased for the year involved by a percentage equal to the percentage by which the annual rate of pay for Members of Congress increased for such year as provided for pursuant to the Legislative Reorganization Act of 1946 (2 U.S.C. 31).'. (b) Effective Date- The amendment made by subsection (a) shall take effect 60 days after the date of enactment of this Act. " bill

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" Dobbs to President: Do you take us for fools? By Lou Dobbs CNN Wednesday, May 10, 2006; Posted: 3:44 p.m. EDT (19:44 GMT) NEW YORK (CNN)-- Reports this week that the Border Patrol is notifying the Mexican government of the locations of Minutemen volunteers are being denied by US Customs and Border Protection. True or not the Bush administration continues to follow absurd policies on both issues of border security and illegal immigration. President Bush continues to push his guest worker program and amnesty for anywhere between 11 million and 20 million illegal aliens, and he insists still that nothing less than what he calls comprehensive immigration reform is acceptable. And the lies keep coming from both political parties. This president is not enforcing the immigration laws enacted by Congress, and this Congress is failing in its duty of oversight to demand that those laws be followed. Only a fool, Mr. President, Senator Kennedy, Senator McCain, would believe you when you speak of new legislation. You don't enforce the laws now. Would you do so if the law were more to your liking? Would you secure our borders and ports? Would you halt illegal immigration? Those are rhetorical questions, only, I assure you. The answers are obvious; obvious because of your conduct. As many as 3 million illegal aliens continue to cross our border with Mexico each year. Enforcement against illegal employers of illegal aliens in this country is all but nonexistent, Mr. President. How do you explain that the Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents have all but ended their investigations and inspections of employers that hire illegal aliens? Again, only a rhetorical question, because we all know the answer. But here is the official record of your sense of duty: 318 employers out of five and a half million in this country have been fined for hiring illegal aliens since 2001. In 2004, only three employers were fined. That is a dismal record, Mr. President, as dismal as the fact that the number of ICE agents assigned to enforce immigration laws in the workplace has declined from only 240 back in 1999 to now less than 100. Illegal Alien Employer Fines 2001 100 2002 53 2003 162 2004 3 (Source: GAO reports,8/31/05) The problem in our lack of border security and illegal immigration is becoming increasingly obvious: two political parties that are beholden to corporate America, the largest employers of illegal aliens, and the leadership of both parties that are selling out American citizens in search of cheap labor and political advantage. How dumb do you all think we are? Again, that's only a rhetorical question. Over the next few days on my broadcast, I'm going to make a suggestion that I hope may help the leadership of both the Republican and Democratic Parties begin to take some notice of our laws and our expectations that those laws be enforced. And also take at least some notice of the fact that Republicans and Democrats also represent American citizens, not just corporate America and special interests." http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/05/10/dobbs.enf...ment/index.html

The five trillian was a projected 15 year result. It actually went from 2.7 trillion surplus to 7.5 trillian or so deficit. That makes this counted STUPID. Whoever wrote that is kinda out there... Your numbers are a bit off. First off, another lie was Clinton's proclamation that we had a $70 billion surplus in 1998. It was actually a $113 billion deficit. The last annual surplus we had was in 1960 ($581 million). However, the annual deficit did get down to about $18 billion in fiscal 2000, which was the closest we've come to a surplus since the 1969 $10 billion deficit. As for the national debt, to which your figures more closely match, it was about $4.188 trillion when Clinton came in, and rose about 38% to $5.728 trillion when he left - without ever incurring a surplus. As of yesterday, the debt was $8.364 trillion - a ludicrous increase of about 46% in the 5+ years of the Bush administration. Source: US Treasury you are talking about a couple of different things. what clinton proclamation is, is a surplus in the federal budget, nothing to do with the national debt. "Clinton hails $70 billion federal surplus Saving Social Security is next challenge, he says WASHINGTON (AllPolitics, September 30) -- President Bill Clinton announced Wednesday the federal government will post about a $70 billion budget surplus for the 1998 fiscal year, and called the historic surplus the first of many to come. "We have waited a long time for this," said Clinton. "Tonight at midnight, America puts an end to three decades of deficits and launches an era of balances and surpluses." " http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/199...clinton.budget/ according to the congressional budget office only 2 years since 1962 had years where the federal budget did not end in notable red tape, fy 1999 and fy 2000. when clinton took office the national debt held by the public was $49.4 and when he left it was $33.0 . as of fy 2005 the public now owns $37.4 of the national debt. http://www.cbo.gov/budget/historical.pdf

Wow, what his approval rating at? cnn says 31-33% fox news says 38%

1 this is a football area. dolphins and canes football reign supreme. football has been the pro and college franchises here for decades before anyone else. basically all the local sport heros and local sport guys on the radio and tv are ex football players from the area 2 the product on the field either stinks or it is good but the ownership doesnt let fans forget the team might move soon, both situations spurn the fans. 3 beaches, nightlife, basketball, hockey, etc. s. fla is a busy place and there are lots more things to do than just baseball 4 weather does play a factor but i don't think it is as big of deal as a lot of people say. i don't think thousands sit in their homes thinking to themselves "oh geez i would go but it is too hot gosh darn it." it also gets hot in places like atlanta and arlington too. i also dont think the marlins even lead the amount of rain outs year in and year out. maybe towards the top but not the concensus number 1. on average aug - oct (when the fins play) is just as hot as when the marlins play (april-july) and i never hear dolphins fans whine and complain the weather is keepin fin fans away.

daily show clip: http://movies.crooksandliars.com/TDS-Hayden-Goss-.mov "He's the right man--at this critical moment--in our nation's history." i await the three-peat