gobucks Posted March 22, 2004 Share Posted March 22, 2004 I hope JP is ready to go Opening Day but his injury creates some uncertainty. If JP is out, worst case, it would be 6 weeks. Can we deal nunez if we need help there the first month of the season? It would be the perfect opportunity to give him a shot. Nunez is not ideally a CF but he can play there. Does this hold off any deal with nunez in it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSwift25 Posted March 22, 2004 Share Posted March 22, 2004 Isn't it just dislocated? And it's his pinky, on his throwing hand, meaning it's a negligible finger . Thome broke his middle-finger on his throwing hand, and he'll be back by the opener, and I broke my index-finger on my glove hand and it only took 3 weeks to heal. Pierre'll be fine for the opener... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJBurnett34 Posted March 22, 2004 Share Posted March 22, 2004 If Peanut isnt ready for opening day, Nunez would be my pick to replace him. He has shown a very good bat this Spring training. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marlins2003 Posted March 22, 2004 Share Posted March 22, 2004 I agree with the premise of the post. The first thing most Marlins fans thought, and rightfully so when they saw Juan Pierre writhing in pain was "Abraham Nunez just made the team". Regardless of how severe the injury it is a reminder to the front office that JP isn't indestructible and the Fish need to have a competent replacement available. Personally, I was dumbfounded seeing Gerald "I live to underachieve" Williams out there in CF today after JP went down. Especially with Nunez sitting on the bench. I thought that was very telling on Jack's part. It will be interesting to see who starts the next few games. If it's not Nunez the writing is on the wall for the kid. You would think they would take a hard look at him or showcase him for a few games if they wanted to use him as tradebait, there's obviously a reason Jack ignored him all day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
83Gator Posted March 22, 2004 Share Posted March 22, 2004 Isn't it just dislocated? And it's his pinky, on his throwing hand, meaning it's a negligible finger . It's his glove hand. They're afraid that there is significant ligament damage. They'll know more tomorrow when he gets back from the hand specialist. He's probably fine but they're speculating it could be as long as 6 weeks if they get bad news tomorrow. I imagine any trade involving Nunez is on hold for at least a couple of days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildMarlinMan2003 Posted March 22, 2004 Share Posted March 22, 2004 Jack did not "ignore" Nunez. Nunez started in CF yesterday and I went to the game. He played well, hitting a leadoff homer. In spring training, everyone plays. Nunez will play over Gerald Williams, trust me. The only question will be if Jack goes with a rookie on opening day. He has trusted them before (Willis and Cabrera). I see no reason why Nunez can't join them in becoming successful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSwift25 Posted March 22, 2004 Share Posted March 22, 2004 Isn't it just dislocated? And it's his pinky, on his throwing hand, meaning it's a negligible finger . It's his glove hand. They're afraid that there is significant ligament damage. They'll know more tomorrow when he gets back from the hand specialist. He's probably fine but they're speculating it could be as long as 6 weeks if they get bad news tomorrow. I imagine any trade involving Nunez is on hold for at least a couple of days. I could have sworn it was on his left hand, which is his throwing hand... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnylons Posted March 22, 2004 Share Posted March 22, 2004 I dont think G Williams playing in CF today is indicative of Nunez not making the team. It could be one of two things - either McKeon is sold on the kid, and doesnt need to see anymore at this time but is giving a look at Williams. Or the other way around, which is how you seem to regard this. I think it would be a large mistake to let Nunez go. If you can trade him, fine. But if you expose him to the waiver wire - he is as good as gone. That is a huge oversight by the FO in terms of talent evaluation. And I dont think this organization is going to do that. I think more than likely, Banks will get demoted or traded, since Cordero has made him redundant. I also think Nunez could be dealt for some pitching - especially with a guy like Aguila and other prospects down on the farm that could play OF. But I do think for the short term, Nunez has earned a spot and is a valuable asset to this team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KJC Posted March 22, 2004 Share Posted March 22, 2004 do not forget that there will be plenty of names out there in a week or two. as for Jack playing Gerald it could be kindof what the Yankees are doing with Mike Lamb, they know he wont make the team but they are playing him so he can show other teams what he has. its a form of respect to the work ethic of some of these "4A" players. Armando Rios will not be on our team and he also played today... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBMarlin Posted March 22, 2004 Share Posted March 22, 2004 Jack did not "ignore" Nunez. Nunez started in CF yesterday and I went to the game. He played well, hitting a leadoff homer. In spring training, everyone plays. Nunez will play over Gerald Williams, trust me. The only question will be if Jack goes with a rookie on opening day. He has trusted them before (Willis and Cabrera). I see no reason why Nunez can't join them in becoming successful. That sums it up quite well. Nunez started yesterday, so it was likely planned to insert Williams later in the game anyways. Easley, Cabrera, and Cordero started yesterday and had a day off today as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marlins2003 Posted March 22, 2004 Share Posted March 22, 2004 Well, we'll see over the next few days who plays CF. It's inconceivable to me that anyone would be interested in Gerald Williams, he's a marginal player at best. You could package 25 Gerald Williams and still not a good ML player in return. I'm just saying I was astounded that Jack didn't yell down the bench "Hey rookie, you're in". Maybe tomorrow we'll see Nunez playing CF and for the next few days. But if we see anyone but Nunez out there I think there may be a back story we're missing. It may be that Jack wants to leave Castillo in the 2 hole and needs a lead-off guy, otherwise he has to start shuffling his lineup. Maybe you guys are correct that he knows what he has in Nunez and wants to give Rios and Williams some more time, but it seems to me, and I'm not saying my thinking isn't flawed, but I for one just couldn't believe, inning after inning, Mets run after Mets run, that Nunez wasn't getting into the game. Admin Beinfest hasn't called recently soliciting my advice but sheeesh, I'd give the kid a chance to break-out for a whole number of reasons. I've been up and down about Nunez for years and he's never going to win the "Mr. Hustle" award wherever he plays but I have to give the guy credit for what he's accomplished since last July. For a whole lot of reasons, the kid deserves a good look see to determine what he can do against major league pitching day in and day out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnylons Posted March 22, 2004 Share Posted March 22, 2004 I seriously doubt that Williams would be favored over Nunez. If that is the case, we have more problems to worry about. I think there is nothing to this. Nunez will make this team, so will Neal, because both are out of options and both have played well enough to scare us into not exposing them to waiver wires. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marlins2003 Posted March 22, 2004 Share Posted March 22, 2004 Okay, day two, no Nunez, not even as a pinch-hitter. Clearly Jack has no interest in playing him or seeing what he can do. Anyone want to tell me there's no back story here? You don't play a hack like Williams two days in a row when you just lost your centerfielder and you have a guy on the bench who's out of options and set the winter leagues on fire after hitting over .300 in AAA. I wonder why he's in Jack's doghouse? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapeFish Posted March 22, 2004 Share Posted March 22, 2004 I think Nunez wil make the team if he isn't traded and Jack doesn't want to play him too hard in case JP has trouble coming back. Williams maybe at AAA, so Jack is giving him more playing time in order to see if he will carry him or an extra pitcher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marlins2003 Posted March 22, 2004 Share Posted March 22, 2004 I think Nunez wil make the team if he isn't traded and Jack doesn't want to play him too hard in case JP has trouble coming back. Williams maybe at AAA, so Jack is giving him more playing time in order to see if he will carry him or an extra pitcher. Play Nunez too hard? He's hardly playing him at all. Williams is 37 and Nunez is 28 and you're afraid to overwork him? Jack obviously has no interest in the kid, or they already have a deal for him or he's stuck in Jack's doghouse but there's a back story, there has to be. Not playing AN for two days in a row in these circumstances is nothing short of a big league slap in the face. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmer_fran Posted March 22, 2004 Share Posted March 22, 2004 I think Nunez wil make the team if he isn't traded and Jack doesn't want to play him too hard in case JP has trouble coming back. Williams maybe at AAA, so Jack is giving him more playing time in order to see if he will carry him or an extra pitcher. Play Nunez too hard? He's hardly playing him at all. Williams is 37 and Nunez is 28 and you're afraid to overwork him? Jack obviously has no interest in the kid, or they already have a deal for him or he's stuck in Jack's doghouse but there's a back story, there has to be. Not playing AN for two days in a row in these circumstances is nothing short of a big league slap in the face. common you are looking too much into this. Just 2 days ago Nunez was starting in CF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmer_fran Posted March 22, 2004 Share Posted March 22, 2004 and Nunez has 8 more at bats than Williams he has consistently played more than Williams this spring so what he hasn't played in 2 days there could be so many reasons for this, and not to mention in the last game he was in he hit a home run and looked great at the plate so I find it hard to believe he is in the doghouse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobucks Posted March 23, 2004 Author Share Posted March 23, 2004 I totally agree with Marlins 2003 on this. If the marlins were considering him as a bench player he would be getting as many AB's as possible. Remember, as a reserve he will not get many AB's once the season starts. There may be a deal in place and considering his injury history they may not be playing him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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