April 16, 200422 yr Let's take this a step further and compare the stats of the players Mays660Bonds says are better than Ruth to their competition when they played. Ruth career OPS+ - 207 (#1 all-time) Bonds OPS+ - 179 Mays OPS+ - 156 (T-20th all-time) Aaron OPS+ - 155 (22nd all-time)
April 16, 200422 yr My favorite stats though are Ruth: 94 career wins 2.28 career ERA 107 CG (163 total starts)
April 16, 200422 yr My favorite stats though are Ruth: 94 career wins 2.28 career ERA 107 CG (163 total starts) End of Story. . . Next Debate?
April 16, 200422 yr You show me a conceited, arrogant prick and chances are I probably won't like him, regardless of race. History is not going to be kind to Mr. Bonds, regardless of whether or not he breaks the record. There will always be the tainted cloud of roids/growth hormones/andro etc. that diminishes the respect any power hitter in the last 15 years gets. Add to this the fact that he feasted off a league with pitching dilluted by expansion and he's not going to be viewed as the great everyone thinks he will. And, like I said, add the fact that he is a complete assh*le and you've got a recipe for a diminished historical reputation in 50 years.
April 16, 200422 yr One more thing that makes Bonds very good and Babe the greatest: Bonds World Series Wins: 0 Babe World Series Wins: Alot How many curses has Bonds started? The one Babe started has been around just 86 years. No biggie there but still kind of important.
April 16, 200422 yr The reasons I don't like Bonds are . . . he is an a**hole! He treats people bad, he is so arrogant and he is rude. He is destroying the integrity of baseball. Okay, this man in his late 30s balloons, and his trainer is caught in a HUGE steroid scandel and we expect him to be clean. Please . . .
April 16, 200422 yr Author I just personally dislike athletes who claim that they are the greatest of all time, unless their name is Muhammed Ali. At least he could back it up. If Michael Jordan ever said that he was the greatest basketball player of all time, or even Wayne Gretzky, I wouldn't argue with them, as they are the best in their sports. The same can't be said for football or baseball, however. Bonds has never claimed he was the greatest of all time
April 16, 200422 yr Author One more thing that makes Bonds very good and Babe the greatest: Bonds World Series Wins: 0 Babe World Series Wins: Alot How many curses has Bonds started? The one Babe started has been around just 86 years. No biggie there but still kind of important. the Babe had a lot more support on his team. He had murderer's row to back him up. Bonds has never had anyone.
April 16, 200422 yr Author I guess everyone in the entire world hates Michael Jordan because he is black? they like him because he's an uncle tom
April 16, 200422 yr Author People need to start asking themselves why they hate the guy and not act like the blind people they are. To the people who hate Bonds, why do you hate the guy. Don't just say he's arrogant or a jerk, tell me why?
April 16, 200422 yr People need to start asking themselves why they hate the guy and not act like the blind people they are. To the people who hate Bonds, why do you hate the guy. Don't just say he's arrogant or a jerk, tell me why? He uses steroids. He isn't a nice guy. He is very, very good. Why should I like him?
April 16, 200422 yr One more thing that makes Bonds very good and Babe the greatest: Bonds World Series Wins: 0 Babe World Series Wins: Alot How many curses has Bonds started? The one Babe started has been around just 86 years. No biggie there but still kind of important. the Babe had a lot more support on his team. He had murderer's row to back him up. Bonds has never had anyone. Didn't Bonds have the NL MVP hitting behind him?
April 16, 200422 yr Author People need to start asking themselves why they hate the guy and not act like the blind people they are. To the people who hate Bonds, why do you hate the guy. Don't just say he's arrogant or a jerk, tell me why? He uses steroids. He isn't a nice guy. He is very, very good. Why should I like him? have you seen him used steroids? How is he not a nice guy? Do you know from personal experience? Please enlighten me.
April 16, 200422 yr Author One more thing that makes Bonds very good and Babe the greatest: Bonds World Series Wins: 0 Babe World Series Wins: Alot How many curses has Bonds started? The one Babe started has been around just 86 years. No biggie there but still kind of important. the Babe had a lot more support on his team. He had murderer's row to back him up. Bonds has never had anyone. Didn't Bonds have the NL MVP hitting behind him? a. Bonds deserved it b. Kent would have been out of baseball if not for Bonds
April 16, 200422 yr You want to know why? Fine. I was 12 years old at a Braves/Pirates game. I waited for 2 hours to get Bonds autograph and he looked at me and said "Get A Life Kid". Is that sufficient for you? I was 12 man. Not a grown man. I was a kid. Anyone who treats kids like that doesnt deserve to be respected, no matter how good they are at what they do.
April 16, 200422 yr You want to know why? Fine. I was 12 years old at a Braves/Pirates game. I waited for 2 hours to get Bonds autograph and he looked at me and said "Get A Life Kid". Is that sufficient for you? I was 12 man. Not a grown man. I was a kid. Anyone who treats kids like that doesnt deserve to be respected, no matter how good they are at what they do. I would have said the same thing.
April 16, 200422 yr You want to know why? Fine. I was 12 years old at a Braves/Pirates game. I waited for 2 hours to get Bonds autograph and he looked at me and said "Get A Life Kid". Is that sufficient for you? I was 12 man. Not a grown man. I was a kid. Anyone who treats kids like that doesnt deserve to be respected, no matter how good they are at what they do. I would have said the same thing. How did I know you were gonna chime in with that! :lol
April 16, 200422 yr People need to start asking themselves why they hate the guy and not act like the blind people they are. To the people who hate Bonds, why do you hate the guy.? Don't just say he's arrogant or a jerk, tell me why? He uses steroids. He isn't a nice guy. He is very, very good. Why should I like him? have you seen him used steroids? How is he not a nice guy? Do you know from personal experience? Please enlighten me. Okay! He treats the media like s***! He appears rude. He fights with teammates. He never smiles. He disses the Babe. His body has transformed into a freak of a man. His head grew. But worse of all, his trainer was caught with steroids. What do you think, his trainer used them or he lent some to his pal. I hope in a couple of years all of this will become obvious to you, and you;ll realize how bad you look now.
April 16, 200422 yr You want to know why? Fine. I was 12 years old at a Braves/Pirates game. I waited for 2 hours to get Bonds autograph and he looked at me and said "Get A Life Kid". Is that sufficient for you? I was 12 man. Not a grown man. I was a kid. Anyone who treats kids like that doesnt deserve to be respected, no matter how good they are at what they do. My goodness, that on top of everything else he is doing. Plus, him and his no good steroids are breaking all of the famed records.
April 17, 200422 yr One more thing that makes Bonds very good and Babe the greatest: Bonds World Series Wins: 0 Babe World Series Wins: Alot How many curses has Bonds started? The one Babe started has been around just 86 years. No biggie there but still kind of important. the Babe had a lot more support on his team. He had murderer's row to back him up. Bonds has never had anyone. Yeah, the fact remains the Yankees had 0 World Titles before the Babes. Want to guess how many they have now? The Red Sox won titles when the Babe was there. How many have they won since? Oh, and again, how many times has Barry pitched like the Babe did? Pitch at all? He isn't the greatest, he isn't close, neither is Willie, so drop it. You only think they are the greatest because they played for the Giants. You know what? Kevin Brown is the best pitcher ever, and Gary Sheffield is the best player ever.
April 17, 200422 yr You know this is a strong subject when I say this. I back up Soriano 100% here. We may have our differences, but Bonds being a roid shooting douche bag is something we agree on :thumbup :thumbup :thumbup
April 17, 200422 yr WHITE ATHLETES I HATE Lyle Overbay Jeff Hornacek (dont even know why, but I do) John Stockton (Just never liked him. Took the spotlight from Mark Price :thumbup ) Jeff Kent (Self righteous, overrated bastard) Casey Candaele (did you ever see one of this guys baseball cards!?) Babe Ruth (Guy was the best, but i personally dislike him) Ty Cobb (Punk bastard) Triple H Bill Romanowski Bill Walton Eric Montross (Douche. Nuff said) Will Perdue (Went to Vandy, and I still hate him) Pete Rose Peyton Manning (live in Nashville where Peyton is Gods OTHER son, you will too) The entire Detroit Red Wings team and the list goes on Black Athletes I Hate Barry Bonds Terrell Owens Chris Webber Ameka Okefur (he helped beat Vandy And Duke, bastard) Jamal Lewis (Bastard ran all over the Bengals) and this list goes on as well Does it make me racist cause I hate a few black athletes? I think not. But you thinking it does makes you Ignroant. :thumbup Ty Cobb is a flat out murderer and scum bag. Classiest guys in the sport: Tony Gwynn Robin Ventura Cal Ripken Mariano Rivera Albert Pujols Least classy: Barry Bonds Jeff Kent Sammy Sosa David Justice Roger Clemens David Wells (though his lack of class is what makes most people love him)
April 17, 200422 yr One more thing that makes Bonds very good and Babe the greatest: Bonds World Series Wins: 0 Babe World Series Wins: Alot How many curses has Bonds started? The one Babe started has been around just 86 years. No biggie there but still kind of important. the Babe had a lot more support on his team. He had murderer's row to back him up. Bonds has never had anyone. He had murderer's row for one year and lastly he still hit more homers than entire teams. Get back to me when Bonds does that.
April 17, 200422 yr One more thing that makes Bonds very good and Babe the greatest: Bonds World Series Wins: 0 Babe World Series Wins: Alot How many curses has Bonds started? The one Babe started has been around just 86 years. No biggie there but still kind of important. the Babe had a lot more support on his team. He had murderer's row to back him up. Bonds has never had anyone. He had murderer's row for one year and lastly he still hit more homers than entire teams. Get back to me when Bonds does that. He won't be getting back to you anytime soon then
April 17, 200422 yr :lol exactly! Boo hoo, poor barry bonds. Sorry about what he did to you as a kid man. Orlando Husdon turned me down for an auto, but he was all cool about it. He said, "Sorry, got to get read for the game home boy." See, there's nice ways to say it...Bonds is just a jerk...and I hope Brian wouldn't say that in Bonds position!
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