Mr. Mays660Bonds, or whatever the heck your name is.

 

Look, there is a reason your posts in this thread are short in this thread, and that reason is you are wrong.

 

People don't hate Bonds because he is black, they hate him because he is tainting the game. The man is re-writing the record books of baseball, and doing it illegally. Do I have proof? No, but I, as well as many others feel that he is guilty.

 

I also hear all this stuff about "Bonds shouldn't be singeled out to test for steroids." Know what, yes he should be. Last time I checked, Bonds is not a member of the players union, so he can be tested for steroids by somebody without any retribution from the players union. Why is it so hard to pee in a cup and clear your name?

 

Say what you want, but their is enough circumstantial evidence against Bonds to cover a country mile, and if you ask 100 people, 90 if not more will tell you he's on steroids. If Bonds went on trail for steroid use, he'd be found guilty. FACT.

 

Also, Bonds is an arrogant fool, who's a cruel jerk, doesn't care about his fans (no matter what he says) and flat out treats the media like crap.

 

Your logic in this thread is based purely on a blind love for your favorite player and that's it. If your a Bonds and/or Giants fan fine, but don't try and convince us Bonds is a good guy that's a victim of racism, because you couldn't be more wrong.

Mr. Mays660Bonds, or whatever the heck your name is.

 

Look, there is a reason your posts in this thread are short in this thread, and that reason is you are wrong.

 

People don't hate Bonds because he is black, they hate him because he is tainting the game. The man is re-writing the record books of baseball, and doing it illegally. Do I have proof? No, but I, as well as many others feel that he is guilty.

 

I also hear all this stuff about "Bonds shouldn't be singeled out to test for steroids." Know what, yes he should be. Last time I checked, Bonds is not a member of the players union, so he can be tested for steroids by somebody without any retribution from the players union. Why is it so hard to pee in a cup and clear your name?

 

Say what you want, but their is enough circumstantial evidence against Bonds to cover a country mile, and if you ask 100 people, 90 if not more will tell you he's on steroids. If Bonds went on trail for steroid use, he'd be found guilty. FACT.

 

Also, Bonds is an arrogant fool, who's a cruel jerk, doesn't care about his fans (no matter what he says) and flat out treats the media like crap.

 

Your logic in this thread is based purely on a blind love for your favorite player and that's it. If your a Bonds and/or Giants fan fine, but don't try and convince us Bonds is a good guy that's a victim of racism, because you couldn't be more wrong.

Amen Maggs. The only thing Bonds is a victim of is "Arrogant Roid Shootin Bastard Syndrome" Commonly referred to as A.R.S.B.S

ARSBS is a terrible syndrome!!!

People need to start asking themselves why they hate the guy and not act like the blind people they are.

To the people who hate Bonds, why do you hate the guy. Don't just say he's arrogant or a jerk, tell me why?

Two-way street here:

We need some proof as to how everyone is racist towards Bonds. You can't just say we're racist, you need more than that.

:lol :notworthy

People need to start asking themselves why they hate the guy and not act like the blind people they are.

To the people who hate Bonds, why do you hate the guy. Don't just say he's arrogant or a jerk, tell me why?

Two-way street here:

We need some proof as to how everyone is racist towards Bonds. You can't just say we're racist, you need more than that. I'm not saying people directly hate him because he's black, but in the long run it results from that.

The media is racist. They give Bonds a negative image because he's a dominant black guy that doesn't conform to society. The public doesn't like Bonds because the media tells them not to. That's why.

In addition, there a lot of instances when a black guy and a white guy can act the same way, and it's looked at in a completely different way. This is one of those instances. McGwire acted like this for over decade. He never got any crap. The second he changed, people were quick to make him a hero. Bonds has gotten s*** for this for years. Now he's changed, nobody's even noticed.

People don't hate Bonds because he is black, they hate him because he is tainting the game. The man is re-writing the record books of baseball, and doing it illegally. Do I have proof? No, but I, as well as many others feel that he is guilty

Have you seen him take steroids? Do you have any proof? No, so until then, reserve your judgement

I also hear all this stuff about "Bonds shouldn't be singeled out to test for steroids." Know what, yes he should be. Last time I checked, Bonds is not a member of the players union, so he can be tested for steroids by somebody without any retribution from the players union. Why is it so hard to pee in a cup and clear your name?

Bonds is still a member of the players union

Say what you want, but their is enough circumstantial evidence against Bonds to cover a country mile, and if you ask 100 people, 90 if not more will tell you he's on steroids. If Bonds went on trail for steroid use, he'd be found guilty. FACT.

no he isn't. Tell me what the proof is? BTW, how do you know Magglio Ordonez doesn't use steroids? There's as much proof about him as there is against BondsAlso , Bonds is an arrogant fool, who's a cruel jerk, doesn't care about his fans (no matter what he says) and flat out treats the media like crap.

show me examples of how? Do you know the guy? Have you met him?

QUOTE?

Also , Bonds is an arrogant fool, who's a cruel jerk, doesn't care about his fans (no matter what he says) and flat out treats the media like crap.

 

 

show me examples of how? Do you know the guy? Have you met him?

 

I have, and he treated me like s***. And I was 12 at the time. Do I really need anymore reason to dislike the guy? Or is that enough for you oh High Priest Of Bondsism

And if you want proof oh is a**hole behavior to the Media... well heres an article from the highly disrespected Smear mag, known as SPORTS ILLUSTRATED

 

Don't you feel a little sorry for Barry Bonds?

 

True, Bonds has the warmth of a dyspeptic IRS auditor. He dispenses more snarls than twin Dobermans. He's rude, insular and grouchy. And that's on his birthday.

 

But nobody, not even Barry Bonds, deserves a World Series week like he just had. All his life he'd dreamed of getting to one of these babies, and when he did it brought him all the joy of an upper G.I. cleansing.

 

Pitchers walked him like a Fifth Avenue poodle. Blood-red stadium crowds shook monkeys at him. Forty-four thousand people slapped 88,000 plastic sausages together until his ears popped.

 

He spent most of the week watching four pitches finish five feet outside the plate, walking to first base and remaining there until the inning ended. It was a whole lot of good walks spoiled.

 

Hell, maybe it was his teammates' revenge. After all, in the postseason he'd treated them like strangers on a prison bus. When they whipped the St. Louis Cardinals for the National League pennant, no champagne sprayed him. And during the World Series Game 3 introductions, he was the only player on the Giants to jog straight to his spot without greeting the line of teammates.

 

Oh, do you work here, too?

 

Suddenly, it seemed, they were paying back their cleanup hitter. In the No. 3 slot, second baseman Jeff Kent had one big game out of seven. The No. 5 hitter, human shar-pei Benito Santiago, seemed to need an Anaheimlich maneuver. Two guys, Rich Aurilia and Reggie Sanders, struck out nine times each. Bonds made 30 plate appearances, 19 of those with nobody on. He was stranded 13 times -- or as much as Gilligan in one season.

 

Yet with what little help, love and strikes he got, he nearly won this thing for San Francisco despite swinging the bat only 25 times in those 30 plate appearances. He absolutely nuked four home runs, though three of them came with nobody on. He was on base a preposterous 70% of the time. In fact, for about 20 minutes last Saturday night, during the sixth inning of Game 6, he was the World Series MVP.

 

The Giants led the game 5-zilch and the series 3-2. All that was left was the parade down Market Street. In their clubhouse, workers were starting to assemble the stage for the traditional bedlam-filled interviews. Plastic was about to be hung over the lockers. Up in the press box all the votes for MVP were collected, and though baseball won't announce this now, it was Bonds in a runaway.

 

But then the Angels began their monkey business. Balls started landing one foot away from San Francisco outfielders, including Mr. Bulky himself. Bonds has gotten so thick that he doesn't seem to be able to bend over and pick up a baseball. He doesn't run down bloops and flares anymore, either, and he has this new habit of trying to barehand a bouncing ball, as though he no longer needs a glove. His botching of Garret Anderson's bloop single in the eighth inning of Game 6 -- Bonds looked like a man in a tub trying to find the soap -- led to the unearned winning run in the worst clinching-game choke in World Series history.

 

The next night, Game 7, left Bonds's dream dead at the Ed, and a few hundred reporters had no choice but to go to his locker to ask him about it. He greeted them with, "Back off or I'll snap."

 

Ohh-kaay.

 

They asked if he would take solace in his amazing World Series performance. "What are you going to write," he growled, "that I had a good postseason and we still lost?"

 

They asked if the Game 6 loss would haunt him during the off-season. "Why would it haunt me?" he grumbled. "What does that have to do with me?"

 

Our bad. We thought you were actually part of the, er, Giants.

 

The whole thing lasted four minutes, tops. And then he bolted, leaving an unforgettable imprint on anybody who watched the Series, one of the clubhouse attendants included. "He didn't tip," the attendant said. "Nothing." And to think the man employs three public relations agents.

 

One hundred feet down the hall, the mostly starless Angels were up to their eyebrows in joy and hugs and Korbel, 25 lucky guys who will forever know the glory of winning a team sport as a team.

 

So, no, Barry Bonds doesn't get his ring. But then, he doesn't get a lot of things.

 

And that's the sorry part.

 

Issue date: November 4, 2002

 

Don't miss The Life of Reilly (Total/SPORTS ILLUSTRATED, $22.95) -- a best-of compilation of Rick Reilly's columns and features, with a foreword written by Charles Barkley, available online and at bookstores everywhere.

 

But then again, they probably only wrote that because he's a dominant black athlete and they're scared of his success.

And if you want proof oh is a**hole behavior to the Media... well heres an article from the highly disrespected Smear mag, known as SPORTS ILLUSTRATED

 

Don't you feel a little sorry for Barry Bonds?

 

True, Bonds has the warmth of a dyspeptic IRS auditor. He dispenses more snarls than twin Dobermans. He's rude, insular and grouchy. And that's on his birthday.

 

But nobody, not even Barry Bonds, deserves a World Series week like he just had. All his life he'd dreamed of getting to one of these babies, and when he did it brought him all the joy of an upper G.I. cleansing.

 

Pitchers walked him like a Fifth Avenue poodle. Blood-red stadium crowds shook monkeys at him. Forty-four thousand people slapped 88,000 plastic sausages together until his ears popped.

 

He spent most of the week watching four pitches finish five feet outside the plate, walking to first base and remaining there until the inning ended. It was a whole lot of good walks spoiled.

 

Hell, maybe it was his teammates' revenge. After all, in the postseason he'd treated them like strangers on a prison bus. When they whipped the St. Louis Cardinals for the National League pennant, no champagne sprayed him. And during the World Series Game 3 introductions, he was the only player on the Giants to jog straight to his spot without greeting the line of teammates.

 

Oh, do you work here, too?

 

Suddenly, it seemed, they were paying back their cleanup hitter. In the No. 3 slot, second baseman Jeff Kent had one big game out of seven. The No. 5 hitter, human shar-pei Benito Santiago, seemed to need an Anaheimlich maneuver. Two guys, Rich Aurilia and Reggie Sanders, struck out nine times each. Bonds made 30 plate appearances, 19 of those with nobody on. He was stranded 13 times -- or as much as Gilligan in one season.

 

Yet with what little help, love and strikes he got, he nearly won this thing for San Francisco despite swinging the bat only 25 times in those 30 plate appearances. He absolutely nuked four home runs, though three of them came with nobody on. He was on base a preposterous 70% of the time. In fact, for about 20 minutes last Saturday night, during the sixth inning of Game 6, he was the World Series MVP.

 

The Giants led the game 5-zilch and the series 3-2. All that was left was the parade down Market Street. In their clubhouse, workers were starting to assemble the stage for the traditional bedlam-filled interviews. Plastic was about to be hung over the lockers. Up in the press box all the votes for MVP were collected, and though baseball won't announce this now, it was Bonds in a runaway.

 

But then the Angels began their monkey business. Balls started landing one foot away from San Francisco outfielders, including Mr. Bulky himself. Bonds has gotten so thick that he doesn't seem to be able to bend over and pick up a baseball. He doesn't run down bloops and flares anymore, either, and he has this new habit of trying to barehand a bouncing ball, as though he no longer needs a glove. His botching of Garret Anderson's bloop single in the eighth inning of Game 6 -- Bonds looked like a man in a tub trying to find the soap -- led to the unearned winning run in the worst clinching-game choke in World Series history.

 

The next night, Game 7, left Bonds's dream dead at the Ed, and a few hundred reporters had no choice but to go to his locker to ask him about it. He greeted them with, "Back off or I'll snap."

 

Ohh-kaay.

 

They asked if he would take solace in his amazing World Series performance. "What are you going to write," he growled, "that I had a good postseason and we still lost?"

 

They asked if the Game 6 loss would haunt him during the off-season. "Why would it haunt me?" he grumbled. "What does that have to do with me?"

 

Our bad. We thought you were actually part of the, er, Giants.

 

The whole thing lasted four minutes, tops. And then he bolted, leaving an unforgettable imprint on anybody who watched the Series, one of the clubhouse attendants included. "He didn't tip," the attendant said. "Nothing." And to think the man employs three public relations agents.

 

One hundred feet down the hall, the mostly starless Angels were up to their eyebrows in joy and hugs and Korbel, 25 lucky guys who will forever know the glory of winning a team sport as a team.

 

So, no, Barry Bonds doesn't get his ring. But then, he doesn't get a lot of things.

 

And that's the sorry part.

 

Issue date: November 4, 2002

 

Don't miss The Life of Reilly (Total/SPORTS ILLUSTRATED, $22.95) -- a best-of compilation of Rick Reilly's columns and features, with a foreword written by Charles Barkley, available online and at bookstores everywhere.

 

But then again, they probably only wrote that because he's a dominant black athlete and they're scared of his success. Right, you're using an article from rick reilly. 'Nuff said

Rick Reilly's been doing smear job after smear job just because Bonds turned him down for an interview

I don't hate Bonds. I just hate your irrational obsession with him. Everything is Barry Barry Barry. You treat him as the Lord Our God and worship him as if he is the the savior of the universe. Then you go overboard and introduce nonsensical and inflammatory arguments of racism, which is pure bulls***, more or less. Michael Jordan an Uncle Tom? Get your f***ing head checked out.

Okay, here's a couple of differences between Bonds and McGwire (and surprisingly, none of them have to do with race):

1. Although small, I think Soriano was right when he brought up 9/11. That had defintely changed things.

2. Records are supposed to be almost "sacred" and they are records because they are that hard to beat. What McGwire did in 1998 was what no one had done in almost forty years. That Maris record was considered almost "immortal" along with the 56-game hitting streak, and Hank Aaron's all-time HR record. When a record, such as the Bonds/McGwire/Maris one gets challenged every year, it starts to lose a lot of its allure and luster. It wasn't anything amazing spectular, but what Bonds did was still amazing, just not as nostalgic and prized as when McGwire did it (and don't me any of that race crap. If Bonds hit 70 in '98, and McGwire came along and hit 74, it would be the exact same way).

 

And in regards to Bonds/Aaron, the chase is getting a lot of attention. I haven't been able to watch one Sportscenter or read one newspaper since the end of last summer where Bonds hasn't been mentioned (and I live on the East Coast). Just like McGwire in '98, Bonds' chase has the allure and luster today.

 

I get the feeling that the author of this article is a Giants fan as well. And you two probably agree on the fact that you are pissed off that the world is stopping for Barry Bonds. You know, some people don't like him, and it's because of jealously, and that's fine. Don't you think there were those same anti-Cardinal fans in 98 with McGwire? The media says he is one of the greatest living hitters of all time, and people think the same thing, what more do you want????

 

Once you play the race card, though, that's when this argument loses all type of validity. I have not seen one thing of proof where you can actually show that people are racist. People here say that they hate him because he is a punk, and you ask, "How do you know, you've never met him, you don't know him." Just the same, you don't know us, so stopping tell me (and all) of us that we're racist until you know us.

 

You and the author of this article is what is wrong with the race issue in America. Let the guy break his record; don't bring race into it. It's asinie, absurd, and completely unnecessary.

People need to start asking themselves why they hate the guy and not act like the blind people they are.

To the people who hate Bonds, why do you hate the guy.? Don't just say he's arrogant or a jerk, tell me why?

Two-way street here:

We need some proof as to how everyone is racist towards Bonds. You can't just say we're racist, you need more than that. I'm not saying people directly hate him because he's black, but in the long run it results from that.

The media is racist. They give Bonds a negative image because he's a dominant black guy that doesn't conform to society. The public doesn't like Bonds because the media tells them not to. That's why.

In addition, there a lot of instances when a black guy and a white guy can act the same way, and it's looked at in a completely different way. This is one of those instances. McGwire acted like this for over decade. He never got any crap. The second he changed, people were quick to make him a hero. Bonds has gotten s*** for this for years. Now he's changed, nobody's even noticed. McGwire was never as bad as bonds. no one is as bad as bonds. no one has the steroid controversey as a HUGE monkey on their back's as they destroy honored records.

 

Face it, you have no examples and you are talking out of your ass.

I don't hate Bonds. I just hate your irrational obsession with him. Everything is Barry Barry Barry. You treat him as the Lord Our God and worship him as if he is the the savior of the universe. Then you go overboard and introduce nonsensical and inflammatory arguments of racism, which is pure bulls***, more or less. Michael Jordan an Uncle Tom? Get your f***ing head checked out.

Everyone loves Rickey and Rickey is not an "uncle tom."

Have you seen him take steroids? Do you have any proof? No, so until then, reserve your judgement

I never said he did, but you must admit the evidence against Bonds is staggering.

 

Bonds is still a member of the players union

 

Wrong, check your sources better.

 

no he isn't. Tell me what the proof is? BTW, how do you know Magglio Ordonez doesn't use steroids? There's as much proof about him as there is against Bonds

Magglio Ordonez's personal trainer wasn't federally indicted for giving baseball players steroids. Magglio Ordonez didn't receive supplements from a place that gave steroids to players. Want me to keep going?

 

 

show me examples of how? Do you know the guy? Have you met him?

 

Well, when almost every person in the media talks about how big of a jerk Bonds is, I start to think that maybe Bonds is the jerk he appears to be, and maybe the media doesn't have a racist agenda against Bonds after all.

Mays660Bonds: Get your head out of your ass

 

Do you know why we have a feeling Bonds is on roids?

I love how he demands for instances from people that met Bonds, and when I say how big of an ass Barry was to me, he just plain ignores it, i guess it discredits his story, so he convenitently overlooked it. :thumbup

I love how he demands for instances from people that met Bonds, and when I say how big of an ass Barry was to me, he just plain ignores it, i guess it discredits his story, so he convenitently overlooked it. :thumbup

Its odd, isn't it? :lol

I once met paul o'neill, he was cool.

 

but you guys knew that already!

 

Seriously, we don't need to personally meet Bonds or use purely the media to hate him. He burries his own grave.

Hey Maggs, Bonds is still in the players union - he's just not in their royalties program (merchandising). I assume it's because he's black and gifted.

Hey Maggs, Bonds is still in the players union - he's just not in their royalties program (merchandising). I assume it's because he's black and gifted.

lol :lol

People need to start asking themselves why they hate the guy and not act like the blind people they are.

To the people who hate Bonds, why do you hate the guy.?Don't just say he's arrogant or a jerk, tell me why?

Two-way street here:

We need some proof as to how everyone is racist towards Bonds. You can't just say we're racist, you need more than that. I'm not saying people directly hate him because he's black, but in the long run it results from that.

The media is racist. They give Bonds a negative image because he's a dominant black guy that doesn't conform to society. The public doesn't like Bonds because the media tells them not to. That's why.

In addition, there a lot of instances when a black guy and a white guy can act the same way, and it's looked at in a completely different way. This is one of those instances. McGwire acted like this for over decade. He never got any crap. The second he changed, people were quick to make him a hero. Bonds has gotten s*** for this for years. Now he's changed, nobody's even noticed. McGwire was never as bad as bonds. no one is as bad as bonds. no one has the steroid controversey as a HUGE monkey on their back's as they destroy honored records. which is another arguement in favor of Bonds, that he continues to doe this despite the steroid bulls*** and speculation

I love how he demands for instances from people that met Bonds, and when I say how big of an ass Barry was to me, he just plain ignores it, i guess it discredits his story, so he convenitently overlooked it. :thumbup

how was Barry an ass to you?

People need to start asking themselves why they hate the guy and not act like the blind people they are.

To the people who hate Bonds, why do you hate the guy.?Don't just say he's arrogant or a jerk, tell me why?

Two-way street here:

We need some proof as to how everyone is racist towards Bonds. You can't just say we're racist, you need more than that. I'm not saying people directly hate him because he's black, but in the long run it results from that.

The media is racist. They give Bonds a negative image because he's a dominant black guy that doesn't conform to society. The public doesn't like Bonds because the media tells them not to. That's why.

In addition, there a lot of instances when a black guy and a white guy can act the same way, and it's looked at in a completely different way. This is one of those instances. McGwire acted like this for over decade. He never got any crap. The second he changed, people were quick to make him a hero. Bonds has gotten s*** for this for years. Now he's changed, nobody's even noticed. McGwire was never as bad as bonds. no one is as bad as bonds. no one has the steroid controversey as a HUGE monkey on their back's as they destroy honored records. which is another arguement in favor of Bonds, that he continues to doe this despite the steroid bulls*** and speculation When will you cease to amaze us with your vast levels of stupidity?

People need to start asking themselves why they hate the guy and not act like the blind people they are.

To the people who hate Bonds, why do you hate the guy.?Don't just say he's arrogant or a jerk, tell me why?

Two-way street here:

We need some proof as to how everyone is racist towards Bonds. You can't just say we're racist, you need more than that. I'm not saying people directly hate him because he's black, but in the long run it results from that.

The media is racist. They give Bonds a negative image because he's a dominant black guy that doesn't conform to society. The public doesn't like Bonds because the media tells them not to. That's why.

In addition, there a lot of instances when a black guy and a white guy can act the same way, and it's looked at in a completely different way. This is one of those instances. McGwire acted like this for over decade. He never got any crap. The second he changed, people were quick to make him a hero. Bonds has gotten s*** for this for years. Now he's changed, nobody's even noticed. McGwire was never as bad as bonds. no one is as bad as bonds. no one has the steroid controversey as a HUGE monkey on their back's as they destroy honored records. which is another arguement in favor of Bonds, that he continues to doe this despite the steroid bulls*** and speculation When will you cease to amaze us with your vast levels of stupidity? THe fact that he remains far and away the most dominant player in the game, with all this crap about him and having to put up with all these people slandering him, is amazing