April 18, 200422 yr Toss Nu?ez out the window! He can't bat, he can't defend, he lied about his age, and he complains. Trade him to the highest bidder for some pitching. Wow! your an idiot.. no i'm not. I don't like dishonesty and complaining from players. He was a spark in the Spring Training pan. No one knows what Nunez said or didn't allegedly say, ask Raul Mondesi what he thinks of Latin American reporting, or others. I'm baffled why so many of you (and not just Cape) are so quick to believe everything you read (in the Herald of all places) and make these judgements. Some of you (not Cape) are just being hateful towards a member of our team and I for one don't get it. As Minus pointed out Nunez is 3 for his last five, and is now batting .300 for the season. Personally I'd like to see what the guy can do over a couple of weeks of steady play but Jack hasn't consulted me recently about lineup changes so I'll just have to go with who he thinks are the right guys to field. No one appreciates Steve's contribution to this team since Sept more than I do but that doesn't mean he deserves to start over (Nunez or) anyone else when he's batting well below the Mendoza line. What if Cabs is in left tomorrow and Nunez in right? Does that mean Cabs is a bad guy too for taking Conine's spot? Personally I prefer winning over hero-worship any day. I'm still waiting for the Fish to send Lenny Harris down to AAA and promote Valdez, god know we could use a SS who can actually generate SOME offense, but that's another story... Amen.... Valdez need to be promoted soon.I'm tire of Agon non existance when it come to hitting.The guy might play great defense but we have a guy who can play D and just might be better offensive player waiting for his chance.Too bad AGON will stay in the lineup simply because of his D.
April 18, 200422 yr Toss Nu?ez out the window! He can't bat, he can't defend, he lied about his age, and he complains. Trade him to the highest bidder for some pitching. Wow! your an idiot.. no i'm not. I don't like dishonesty and complaining from players. He was a spark in the Spring Training pan. No one knows what Nunez said or didn't allegedly say, ask Raul Mondesi what he thinks of Latin American reporting, or others. I'm baffled why so many of you (and not just Cape) are so quick to believe everything you read (in the Herald of all places) and make these judgements. Some of you (not Cape) are just being hateful towards a member of our team and I for one don't get it. As Minus pointed out Nunez is 3 for his last five, and is now batting .300 for the season. Personally I'd like to see what the guy can do over a couple of weeks of steady play but Jack hasn't consulted me recently about lineup changes so I'll just have to go with who he thinks are the right guys to field. No one appreciates Steve's contribution to this team since Sept more than I do but that doesn't mean he deserves to start over (Nunez or) anyone else when he's batting well below the Mendoza line. What if Cabs is on left tomorrow and Nunez in right? Does that mean Cabs is a bad guy too for taking Conine's spot? Personally I prefer winning over hero-worship any day. I'm still waiting for the Fish to send Lenny Harris down to AAA and promote Valdez, god know we could use a SS who can actually generate SOME offense, but that's another story... Excellent post 2003. I am also tired of listening to others jump to conclusions regarding Nunez. As far as I am concerned, he has earned the opportunity to be given a chance. Putting him in right, and having Cabs move to left could be a good move. Cabs certainly seemed more comfortable there last year. I also like the idea of bringing up Valdez for Harris. That is the move to make. It could be they would like to give Valdez more consistent PT for awhile before they bring him up.
April 18, 200422 yr And Nunez isn't even our best player off the bench. Why isn't anyone complaining about Cordero not getting any starts? Umm, let's see. That's a tough one. Could it be that Cordero has a .091 BA so far? The whole arguement on getting Nunez in the lineup is that he hasn't gotten enough at-bats to prove himself, right? Well, you could say the same for Cordero. He's started what? 2 games? Face it, you bought into the whole Nunez ST hype and are now realizing that ST performance don't mean sheeeeeeit. So I guess we should ignore the fact he's hitting .300 for the season? In what 10-12 AB? Gimme a break. I still don't think that's enough grounds to give him some starts yet. Sorry :confused
April 18, 200422 yr I don't know about Nunez. He think he is an all-star because he hit 10 HRs in Spring Training. Conine has won 2 WS rings, what has Nunez done? Hit 10 HRs in Spring Training, that is STAR WORTHY. BTW, I liked Floyd, Lee, and Wilson alot. I bet If we had an 75-80 mil payroll two of the three would still be here/
April 18, 200422 yr CONINE REDMOND IF they don't start...I will be very disappointed in Jack. Tonight, Jack sent a lineup out that didn't look to win. Castro and Nu?ez don't defend as well as Redmond and Conine respectively and didn't hit when needed.
April 18, 200422 yr And Nunez isn't even our best player off the bench. Why isn't anyone complaining about Cordero not getting any starts? Umm, let's see. That's a tough one. Could it be that Cordero has a .091 BA so far? The whole arguement on getting Nunez in the lineup is that he hasn't gotten enough at-bats to prove himself, right? Well, you could say the same for Cordero. He's started what? 2 games? Face it, you bought into the whole Nunez ST hype and are now realizing that ST performance don't mean sheeeeeeit. So I guess we should ignore the fact he's hitting .300 for the season? In what 10-12 AB? Gimme a break. I still don't think that's enough grounds to give him some starts yet. Sorry :confused For same reason he needs more starts to see wether ST was fluke or not.Mosto f you are living in the past with Conine.
April 18, 200422 yr And Nunez isn't even our best player off the bench. Why isn't anyone complaining about Cordero not getting any starts? Umm, let's see. That's a tough one. Could it be that Cordero has a .091 BA so far? The whole arguement on getting Nunez in the lineup is that he hasn't gotten enough at-bats to prove himself, right? Well, you could say the same for Cordero. He's started what? 2 games? Face it, you bought into the whole Nunez ST hype and are now realizing that ST performance don't mean sheeeeeeit. So I guess we should ignore the fact he's hitting .300 for the season? In what 10-12 AB? Gimme a break. I still don't think that's enough grounds to give him some starts yet. Sorry :confused For same reason he needs more starts to see wether ST was fluke or not.Mosto f you are living in the past with Conine. It was only 7 months ago!
April 18, 200422 yr CONINE REDMOND IF they don't start...I will be very disappointed in Jack. Tonight, Jack sent a lineup out that didn't look to win. Castro and Nu?ez don't defend as well as Redmond and Conine respectively and didn't hit when needed. Nunez doesn't defend? Get a clue Cape.I usually respect your opinion but you need to think more about what your posting.
April 18, 200422 yr If Conine were not struggling, then you would see limited opportunities for Nunez. But the fact is Conine is struggling, hitting .091 so far on this road trip. Swinging at pitches way out of the zone to kill scoring opportunities. So given the situation, it makes good sense to take a look at Nunez. Nobody is suggesting Nunez gets the starting role.
April 18, 200422 yr And Nunez isn't even our best player off the bench. Why isn't anyone complaining about Cordero not getting any starts? Umm, let's see. That's a tough one. Could it be that Cordero has a .091 BA so far? The whole arguement on getting Nunez in the lineup is that he hasn't gotten enough at-bats to prove himself, right? Well, you could say the same for Cordero. He's started what? 2 games? Face it, you bought into the whole Nunez ST hype and are now realizing that ST performance don't mean sheeeeeeit. So I guess we should ignore the fact he's hitting .300 for the season? In what 10-12 AB? Gimme a break. I still don't think that's enough grounds to give him some starts yet. Sorry :confused For same reason he needs more starts to see wether ST was fluke or not.Mosto f you are living in the past with Conine. It was only 7 months ago! Of course which included his .238 avg when he became a member of the Fish.
April 18, 200422 yr This is sort of off topic and might sound dumb but is there any reason why Niner doesn't play in right and Cabrera in left? It seems like Cabs is having way too much trouble in right...
April 18, 200422 yr And Nunez isn't even our best player off the bench. Why isn't anyone complaining about Cordero not getting any starts? Umm, let's see. That's a tough one. Could it be that Cordero has a .091 BA so far? The whole arguement on getting Nunez in the lineup is that he hasn't gotten enough at-bats to prove himself, right? Well, you could say the same for Cordero. He's started what? 2 games? Face it, you bought into the whole Nunez ST hype and are now realizing that ST performance don't mean sheeeeeeit. So I guess we should ignore the fact he's hitting .300 for the season? In what 10-12 AB? Gimme a break. I still don't think that's enough grounds to give him some starts yet. Sorry :confused For same reason he needs more starts to see wether ST was fluke or not.Mosto f you are living in the past with Conine. It was only 7 months ago! Of course which included his .238 avg when he became a member of the Fish. You're quick to forget that he had a pretty good post-season too, but I'm sure you think Nunez could have hit 10 home runs in the post season in Niner's spot. :lol
April 18, 200422 yr And Nunez isn't even our best player off the bench. Why isn't anyone complaining about Cordero not getting any starts? Umm, let's see. That's a tough one. Could it be that Cordero has a .091 BA so far? The whole arguement on getting Nunez in the lineup is that he hasn't gotten enough at-bats to prove himself, right? Well, you could say the same for Cordero. He's started what? 2 games? Face it, you bought into the whole Nunez ST hype and are now realizing that ST performance don't mean sheeeeeeit. So I guess we should ignore the fact he's hitting .300 for the season? In what 10-12 AB? Gimme a break. I still don't think that's enough grounds to give him some starts yet. Sorry :confused For same reason he needs more starts to see wether ST was fluke or not.Mosto f you are living in the past with Conine. It was only 7 months ago! Of course which included his .238 avg when he became a member of the Fish. You're quick to forget that he had a pretty good post-season too, but I'm sure you think Nunez could have hit 10 home runs in the post season in Niner's spot. :lol No doubt.. :plain
April 18, 200422 yr He batted .237 as a Marlin. What did he bat as an Oriole, a lot better. Conine has 2 WS rings with us. What has Nunez ever accomplished? 10 HRs in Spring Training. That is all-star material, let him start everyday. :whistle
April 18, 200422 yr If Conine were not struggling, then you would see limited opportunities for Nunez. But the fact is Conine is struggling, hitting .091 so far on this road trip. Swinging at pitches way out of the zone to kill scoring opportunities. So given the situation, it makes good sense to take a look at Nunez. Nobody is suggesting Nunez gets the starting role. Thank you!
April 18, 200422 yr CONINE REDMOND IF they don't start...I will be very disappointed in Jack. Tonight, Jack sent a lineup out that didn't look to win. Castro and Nu?ez don't defend as well as Redmond and Conine respectively and didn't hit when needed. Nunez doesn't defend? Get a clue Cape.I usually respect your opinion but you need to think more about what your posting. Tonight a ball dropped in front of him that Conine would have had. Nu?ez doesn't play LF well.
April 18, 200422 yr And Nunez isn't even our best player off the bench. Why isn't anyone complaining about Cordero not getting any starts? Umm, let's see. That's a tough one. Could it be that Cordero has a .091 BA so far? The whole arguement on getting Nunez in the lineup is that he hasn't gotten enough at-bats to prove himself, right? Well, you could say the same for Cordero. He's started what? 2 games? Face it, you bought into the whole Nunez ST hype and are now realizing that ST performance don't mean sheeeeeeit. So I guess we should ignore the fact he's hitting .300 for the season? In what 10-12 AB? Gimme a break. I still don't think that's enough grounds to give him some starts yet. Sorry :confused So Mave, everything he did in spring training was hype and now that he's beginning to show some potential in ML ball that's just hype too? You can't have it both ways not when you've got three starters (Conine, AGon and Castro) all hitting below .200. PBMarlin, I think you're right, the only thing holding back Valdez right now is a desire on the part of FO to get him regular playing time and more seasoning. That and the fact no one wants to see AGon striking that Sea Bass pose (Prozac anyone?) worrying about Valdez coming up. And yes, I'd like to see Cabs back in left where he played so well last season and Nunez (at least for awhile) in right where he seems quite comfortable.
April 18, 200422 yr He batted .237 as a Marlin. What did he bat as an Oriole, a lot better. Conine has 2 WS rings with us. What has Nunez ever accomplished? 10 HRs in Spring Training. That is all-star material, let him start everyday. It isn't fair to say that Conine has succeeded in the past so he should start. If he isn't producing at all and looking quite silly at the plate, and a guy like Nunez has earned some PT, what can you do? And enough with all this Mr Marlin bulls***! Conine was the man last year in the Phillies series and Playoffs but he didn't get us to that point throughout the 2003 season. Neither did Nunez but that doesn't mean you have to decide who is starting based on wearing a certain uniform in the mid 90s. Who knows? Nunez can stink up the joint or explode, but we'll never know with him on the bench. We all pretty much know what Conine would do if he were playing . . .
April 18, 200422 yr And Nunez isn't even our best player off the bench. Why isn't anyone complaining about Cordero not getting any starts? Umm, let's see. That's a tough one. Could it be that Cordero has a .091 BA so far? The whole arguement on getting Nunez in the lineup is that he hasn't gotten enough at-bats to prove himself, right? Well, you could say the same for Cordero. He's started what? 2 games? Face it, you bought into the whole Nunez ST hype and are now realizing that ST performance don't mean sheeeeeeit. So I guess we should ignore the fact he's hitting .300 for the season? In what 10-12 AB? Gimme a break. I still don't think that's enough grounds to give him some starts yet. Sorry :confused So Mave, everything he did in spring training was hype and now that he's beginning to show some potential in ML ball that's just hype too? You can't have it both ways not when you've got three starters (Conine, AGon and Castro) all hitting below .200. PBMarlin, I think you're right, the only thing holding back Valdez right now is a desire on the part of FO to get him regular playing time and more seasoning. That and the fact no one wants to see AGon striking that Sea Bass pose (Prozac anyone?) worrying about Valdez coming up. And yes, I'd like to see Cabs back in left where he played so well last season and Nunez (at least for awhile) in right where he seems quite comfortable. Marlins2003 You know what the real reason why Valdez is not going to see any playing time soon and in AAA? Money The Fish management doesn't want to pay the amount of money they pay Sea bass to sit on the bench not until they get rid of his ass for something in return.I wouldn't be surprise to see Sea Bass as a trade bait if the Fish are in the playoffs.
April 18, 200422 yr is it me, or does every thread with the word Nunez in it get to 3+ pages long? the guy had a good spring, and he deserves his shot, but he shouldn't be our everyday starter in left, not by any means.
April 18, 200422 yr is it me, or does every thread with the word Nunez in it get to 3+ pages long? the guy had a good spring, and he deserves his shot, but he shouldn't be our everyday starter in left, not by any means. but should he get some PT while Steve is stinking?
April 18, 200422 yr is it me, or does every thread with the word Nunez in it get to 3+ pages long? the guy had a good spring, and he deserves his shot, but he shouldn't be our everyday starter in left, not by any means. but should he get some PT while Steve is stinking? he should get what he's earned, especialy if conine is still feeling the symptoms of his sinus infections/ is STILL playing horribly well into the season
April 18, 200422 yr And Nunez isn't even our best player off the bench. Why isn't anyone complaining about Cordero not getting any starts? Umm, let's see. That's a tough one. Could it be that Cordero has a .091 BA so far? The whole arguement on getting Nunez in the lineup is that he hasn't gotten enough at-bats to prove himself, right? Well, you could say the same for Cordero. He's started what? 2 games? Face it, you bought into the whole Nunez ST hype and are now realizing that ST performance don't mean sheeeeeeit. So I guess we should ignore the fact he's hitting .300 for the season? In what 10-12 AB? Gimme a break. I still don't think that's enough grounds to give him some starts yet. Sorry :confused So Mave, everything he did in spring training was hype and now that he's beginning to show some potential in ML ball that's just hype too? You can't have it both ways not when you've got three starters (Conine, AGon and Castro) all hitting below .200. PBMarlin, I think you're right, the only thing holding back Valdez right now is a desire on the part of FO to get him regular playing time and more seasoning. That and the fact no one wants to see AGon striking that Sea Bass pose (Prozac anyone?) worrying about Valdez coming up. And yes, I'd like to see Cabs back in left where he played so well last season and Nunez (at least for awhile) in right where he seems quite comfortable. Marlins2003 You know what the real reason why Valdez is not going to see any playing time soon and in AAA? Money The Fish management doesn't want to pay the amount of money they pay Sea bass to sit on the bench not until they get rid of his ass for something in return.I wouldn't be surprise to see Sea Bass as a trade bait if the Fish are in the playoffs. Hey, I've been saying AGon will never see year two of contract in a Marlins uni for quite awhile (much to consternation of many people here. And for the record, here's what Nunez did in spring training. PLAYER,TEAM AVG AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI ----------- --- -- - - -- -- -- --- Abraham Nunez, FLA .463 54 18 25 5 0 10 21 second in batting, first in HRs, and hits (for the number of at bats after Jack said "okay kis show me you can do something besides hitting home runs), and his OBP and SLG were the best in ST. Now he's hitting .300 in ML ball (albeit in a very limited number of at bats) but this is no Robert Stratton, let's find out what the kid can do.
April 18, 200422 yr You know what the real reason why Valdez is not going to see any playing time soon and in AAA? Money The Fish management doesn't want to pay the amount of money they pay Sea bass to sit on the bench not until they get rid of his ass for something in return.I wouldn't be surprise to see Sea Bass as a trade bait if the Fish are in the playoffs. It is really a tough call regarding Gonzo. There were a couple of plays tonight that were just beautiful. His range is superb. He has quick hands and a strong arm. He makes tough plays look easy that other SSs in the league never get to. The best case would be to see him develop better plate discipline and hit around .240 or .250. If can do that, then there will not be a move to replace him. If he continues to hit well below .200, then that could give Valdez a chance.
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