June 9, 200422 yr oh god know, what's next, a Hitler dollar bill. Reagan sucked, I would pass. for once, i agree
June 9, 200422 yr hey das, when are you doing the Puerto Rico thread??? :whistle what puerto rico thread? the one where puerto ricans refuse to become a state because then they would god forbid have to pay the same in taxes as all in teh states. wow they cant vote in congress. big deal.
June 9, 200422 yr oh god know, what's next, a Hitler dollar bill.? Reagan sucked, I would pass. A Yankee fan and a Lib! Two things I loathe the most... :banghead I'm not a liberal, but you must be if you love SPENDOCRAT Reagan so much. I concur too...you both suck. Oh yeah, well Reagan is dead, I am happy, you are not, and I WIN! Reagan did not "win us the cold war." The soviet union was going down the crapper (ex: poland) BEFORE Regan got to do anything. Why? because socialism in the USSR was starving its people! I had a friend that lived there and at times all they had to eat was VINEGAR! Nixon helped win the cold war with detante and simple ECONOMICS did the rest. Reagan was just in the right place at the right time, spending OUR MONEY to the glee of arms manufacturer special interests.
June 9, 200422 yr But SOVIET Russia survived for over SEVENTY years. It is a PRETTY big COINCIDENCE for them TO FALL right after REAGAN left OFFICE. If anything, he HASTENED its DEMISE.
June 9, 200422 yr But SOVIET Russia survived for over SEVENTY years. It is a PRETTY big COINCIDENCE for them TO FALL right after REAGAN left OFFICE. If anything, he HASTENED its DEMISE. Coincidence? People starving to death and solidarity movements that were ALREADY into place before the reagan era and FURTHERMORE the relative global stability FOR US from detante from the nixon era HAS NOTHING to do with Reagan. Furthermore, the USSR ceased to exist under BUSH I, not Reagan. You can't tell me that Reagan's blowing of billions on the oh so useful B1 bombers and star wars programs urged the eastern europeans to want independence and furthermore starve the russians. That is simply not true, and Reagan blew.
June 9, 200422 yr Well it's a BELIEF of MINE that COMMUNISM finally FELL because the LEADERS of the SOVIET UNION, mainly GORBACHEV and YELTSIN, finally FOUND it POLITICALLY untenable. THERE was a CONSCIOUS HUMAN ELEMENT in its demise, since all the INEFFICIENCY and DEPRAVATION inherent in COMMUNISM has NOT DESTROYED the COUNTRY in over 70 YEARS. NIXON'S dealings with BREZHNEV could have had an effect, but I SUSPECT that REAGAN'S STRONG LEADERSHIP and RESOLVE in LETTING THE USSR KNOW that the STATUS QUO could not STAND had an effect. A three YEAR LATENCY PERIOD from when REAGAN left OFFICE until 1991 is UNDERSTANDABLE. These things don't happen OVERNIGHT. REAGAN'S ACTIONS worked on the LEADERS who had foisted THEIR GOVERNMENT UPON the RUSSIAN PEOPLE for so long. EASTERN EUROPE had WANTED INDEPENDENCE since AS FAR BACK AS THE 1950S, but they DIDN'T GET IT THEN. I think THAT YOU are TRYING TO BE CLEVER by pulling out NIXON and his GLOBAL STABILITY but since YOU DON'T BACK IT UP, I am INCLINED TO believe THAT YOU DON'T know WHAT you ARE talking ABOUT. Looks like summer school for you!
June 9, 200422 yr Summer school, hmm, what's the crux of your argument? I SUSPECT that REAGAN'S STRONG LEADERSHIP and RESOLVE in LETTING THE USSR KNOW that the STATUS QUO could not STAND had an effect. A three YEAR LATENCY PERIOD from when REAGAN left OFFICE until 1991 is UNDERSTANDABLE. These things don't happen OVERNIGHT. Your suspicion??? I need summer school because of your suspicion? That's absolutely stupid. NEWSFLASH, european independence movements didn't gain steam until after Poland, which shows your whole "well it was like that in the 50s" is truly not making a parallel between the two. Without the perpetual warfare from detante, the cold war cooled and thus domestic problems in russia reared their ugly heads nore so, bringing about Russia's end. Again, communism's inefficiency has nothing to dow ith Reagan making some fancy speeches like "tear down this wall" and "the bombs drop in 5 minutes", because those meant nothing to russia (relatively) and were only a show for the American Media. But YOUR SUSPICION, how dare I not consider your baselss media driven suspicion! Well excuse me for not considering your non historical argument!
June 9, 200422 yr on a completely unrelated subject... when is Puerto Rico going to stop leeching off teh united states? explain yourself. In what sense? The US invaded Puerto Rico for your information. In addition, I guess the thousands of Puerto Rican giving up their lives in the wars for US isn't worth crap? The US congress hasn't had the balls to tell Puerto Ricans, you must decide. Independent or become a State.
June 9, 200422 yr Summer school, hmm, what's the crux of your argument? I SUSPECT that REAGAN'S STRONG LEADERSHIP and RESOLVE in LETTING THE USSR KNOW that the STATUS QUO could not STAND had an effect. A three YEAR LATENCY PERIOD from when REAGAN left OFFICE until 1991 is UNDERSTANDABLE. These things don't happen OVERNIGHT. Your suspicion??? I need summer school because of your suspicion? That's absolutely stupid. NEWSFLASH, european independence movements didn't gain steam until after Poland, which shows your whole "well it was like that in the 50s" is truly not making a parallel between the two. Without the perpetual warfare from detante, the cold war cooled and thus domestic problems in russia reared their ugly heads nore so, bringing about Russia's end. Again, communism's inefficiency has nothing to dow ith Reagan making some fancy speeches like "tear down this wall" and "the bombs drop in 5 minutes", because those meant nothing to russia (relatively) and were only a show for the American Media. But YOUR SUSPICION, how dare I not consider your baselss media driven suspicion! Well excuse me for not considering your non historical argument! Wasn't there the Prague Spring? Alexander Dubcek? Didn't Hungary have a bunch of uprisings in the 1960s or 50s? They got crushed, the late 80s movements didn't. But they all sprung from "detante", you say. Detente, actually. ONLY one reason, you say. And no specifics to back it up. You're excused. :thumbup
June 9, 200422 yr Author To come out with a Reagan dollar bill before a Clinton dollar bill is absurd... dude, you forgot the cigar...and no monica? bleh...
June 9, 200422 yr Author on a completely unrelated subject... when is Puerto Rico going to stop leeching off teh united states? explain yourself. In what sense? The US invaded Puerto Rico for your information. In addition, I guess the thousands of Puerto Rican giving up their lives in the wars for US isn't worth crap? The US congress hasn't had the balls to tell Puerto Ricans, you must decide. Independent or become a State. FreshFish: :notworthy :notworthy :notworthy Das, if you don't know what you're talking about, don't open your mouth. Second, this thread doesn't have anything to do with PR. If you want to say anything, go ahead and open a new thread, I'll be more than happy to reply.
June 9, 200422 yr Wasn't there the Prague Spring? Alexander Dubcek? Didn't Hungary have a bunch of uprisings in the 1960s or 50s? They got crushed, the late 80s movements didn't. But they all sprung from "detante", you say. Detente, actually. ONLY one reason, you say. And no specifics to back it up. And THEY WERE CRUSHED! THAT'S THE POINT! Poland, the first succesful solidarity movement, started in 1980 BEFORE Reagan, and its success and the continuing economic woes (not related to Reagan) brought upon the fall of the USSR. Class dismissed, you fail.
June 9, 200422 yr on a completely unrelated subject... when is Puerto Rico going to stop leeching off teh united states? explain yourself. In what sense? The US invaded Puerto Rico for your information. In addition, I guess the thousands of Puerto Rican giving up their lives in the wars for US isn't worth crap? The US congress hasn't had the balls to tell Puerto Ricans, you must decide. Independent or become a State. FreshFish: :notworthy :notworthy :notworthy Das, if you don't know what you're talking about, don't open your mouth. Second, this thread doesn't have anything to do with PR. If you want to say anything, go ahead and open a new thread, I'll be more than happy to reply. :blink:
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