June 18, 200422 yr What makes you think T-Mac will get us to the Finals? He's never even been out the second round. Infact, he's so stupid, last year he thought that with three wins he was in the second round even though you needed four rules. He either A) Forgot about the new rules, B) Is cocky, or C) Is a dumbass. This team with Caron, Wade, and Odom got us to the second round and that's a huge step forward. just bc he is stupid dosent mean that hes not good at basketball and that he wouldnt help us out you dont need so much brains to play basketball... and hes never gone so far bc he has never been with a very good team, but we are a good team, and if we would get him he woud et enough support from all of our other players and we would do better with him and we did good last year, but come one...here is our chance to improve... The reason the Heat cannot win it all is because they do not have a big man in the middle. Without a big man there is no way we can compete against the upper tier of teams in the league.
June 18, 200422 yr dont we have enough guards? this is retarded. if we dont give up eddie in this trade, we'll end up with a $12M flop (eddie) who won't even get to start at SG. it makes no sense for us to do this trade if we dont get to unload eddie.
June 18, 200422 yr dont we have enough guards? this is retarded. if we dont give up eddie in this trade, we'll end up with a $12M flop (eddie) who won't even get to start at SG. it makes no sense for us to do this trade if we dont get to unload eddie. Exactly. If we're gonna pay someone so much money, at least start them because we're not paying 12 Million to a guy to sit on the bench.
June 18, 200422 yr right and why the hell would they want grant? granted he's an awesome low post defender and has great work ethics but the man has an injury on almost all parts of his body and is getting old.
June 18, 200422 yr right and why the hell would they want grant? granted he's an awesome low post defender and has great work ethics but the man has an injury on almost all parts of his body and is getting old. Well that's why we don't want him either. And his contract is bigger than Shaqs ass and ego combined. :plain
June 18, 200422 yr dont we have enough guards? this is retarded. if we dont give up eddie in this trade, we'll end up with a $12M flop (eddie) who won't even get to start at SG. it makes no sense for us to do this trade if we dont get to unload eddie. I think we should do this trade and get TMAC And than do another trade and trade away eddie and try and get a big man for him so that we could have tmac and a big man
June 18, 200422 yr right and why the hell would they want grant? granted he's an awesome low post defender and has great work ethics but the man has an injury on almost all parts of his body and is getting old. Well that's why we don't want him either. And his contract is bigger than Shaqs ass and ego combined. :plain Riley sounds like he's pretty much accepted having EJ and Grant here and knows that it's not gonna be a piece of cake to trade them. I just don't see the Magic taking Grant, don't they have enough bad luck with players named "Grant" ??
June 18, 200422 yr I think we should do this trade and get TMAC And than do another trade and trade away eddie and try and get a big man for him so that we could have tmac and a big man It is NOT even close to that easy. First off, this tmac trade is a scenario...who knows if this will even really come up, it's just an idea the magic might be throwing around just like they are with all the other teams. Second, trading EJ for a big man wouldn't be a walk in the park either. Also, with the departure of Caron....who's starting at small forward? Don't get your hopes up, the team is not gonna be drastically shaken like this.
June 18, 200422 yr right and why the hell would they want grant? granted he's an awesome low post defender and has great work ethics but the man has an injury on almost all parts of his body and is getting old. Well that's why we don't want him either. And his contract is bigger than Shaqs ass and ego combined. :plain Riley sounds like he's pretty much accepted having EJ and Grant here and knows that it's not gonna be a piece of cake to trade them. I just don't see the Magic taking Grant, don't they have enough bad luck with players named "Grant" ?? It dosent matter what his name is...they dont care about that.
June 18, 200422 yr right and why the hell would they want grant? granted he's an awesome low post defender and has great work ethics but the man has an injury on almost all parts of his body and is getting old. Well that's why we don't want him either. And his contract is bigger than Shaqs ass and ego combined. :plain Riley sounds like he's pretty much accepted having EJ and Grant here and knows that it's not gonna be a piece of cake to trade them. I just don't see the Magic taking Grant, don't they have enough bad luck with players named "Grant" ?? It dosent matter what his name is...they dont care about that. no s*** sherlock, it was a joke
June 18, 200422 yr Author About the SF. I would expect Rasual Butler, Odom, or T-Mac (if he ever became a heat) to play there.
June 18, 200422 yr I think we should do this trade and get TMAC And than do another trade and trade away eddie and try and get a big man for him so that we could have tmac and a big man It is NOT even close to that easy. First off, this tmac trade is a scenario...who knows if this will even really come up, it's just an idea the magic might be throwing around just like they are with all the other teams. Second, trading EJ for a big man wouldn't be a walk in the park either. Also, with the departure of Caron....who's starting at small forward? Don't get your hopes up, the team is not gonna be drastically shaken like this. You beat me to it. If trading Grant and EJ was so easy, they'd both be gone by now because it's pretty well known that Miami has been trying to get rid of both of them for years but the right deal never came up.
June 18, 200422 yr Author Anyone have news on Blount or whoever the heat were gonna go after in FA? Karl Malone is also on the market.
June 18, 200422 yr Anyone have news on Blount or whoever the heat were gonna go after in FA? Karl Malone is also on the market. meh he's retiring
June 18, 200422 yr About the SF. I would expect Rasual Butler, Odom, or T-Mac (if he ever became a heat) to play there. well the whole scenario "Marlins" was proposing, our starters would be like this: PG: Wade SG: TMac SF: ??? PF: Odom C: acquired big man that's why i was directing this question to him rasual doesn't have what it takes to be a starter, he has a nice slash to the basket and a smooth J but he's too inconsistent. nice bench player though. not that this scenario is gonna happen anyway but yeah just wanted to clear it up.
June 18, 200422 yr Anyone have news on Blount or whoever the heat were gonna go after in FA? Karl Malone is also on the market. meh he's retiring wouldn't want him anyway. in terms of big man, we need a center. a power forward isn't really gonna solve our big man problems.
June 18, 200422 yr About the SF. I would expect Rasual Butler, Odom, or T-Mac (if he ever became a heat) to play there. well the whole scenario "Marlins" was proposing, our starters would be like this: PG: Wade SG: TMac SF: ??? PF: Odom C: acquired big man that's why i was directing this question to him rasual doesn't have what it takes to be a starter, he has a nice slash to the basket and a smooth J but he's too inconsistent. nice bench player though. not that this scenario is gonna happen anyway but yeah just wanted to clear it up. The magic wouldnt want Eddie in the deal. So the scenario would be more like pg wade sg jones sf Tmac pf Odom C ? We cannot afford to have both McGradoy and Jones. If we would get this deal done(caron and grant for Mcgrady) that would leave us with no money to spend on that big man that we need.
June 18, 200422 yr Author If a deal like this does happen and its Butler/Jones. I wouldnt be surprised to see: Wade/TMac/Odom/Grant/ Mark Blount (if he signs?) or Alston/Wade/TMac/Odom/Grant. Again this is if this ever happens.
June 18, 200422 yr If a deal like this does happen and its Butler/Jones. I wouldnt be surprised to see: Wade/TMac/Odom/Grant/ Mark Blount (if he signs?) or Alston/Wade/TMac/Odom/Grant. Again this is if this ever happens. Magic wouldnt do the trade. They want a big man. Not overpaid Eddie.
June 18, 200422 yr The magic wouldnt want Eddie in the deal. So the scenario would be more like pg wade sg jones sf Tmac pf Odom C ? We cannot afford to have both McGradoy and Jones. If we would get this deal done(caron and grant for Mcgrady) that would leave us with no money to spend on that big man that we need. if you go up to "marlins" post, he said to trade EJ for a big man - that's the starting lineup i was refering to and that's why i took EJ out of there. but anyways, man TMac is not coming to the Heat. Mark my words.
June 18, 200422 yr Alot of you all are forgeting about the draft there is a guy named Peter John Ramos who is 7'4 i think that takes care of our center problem so we dont have to get blount and then use the money in FA to replace butler that would have us looking like wade,odom,tmac,ramos, and someone who is decent. That right there can get us to the championship because Tmac is on another level and u say hes selfish but when ur that good and ur one the worst team in the league ur not ganna be bitter either?
June 18, 200422 yr Alot of you all are forgeting about the draft there is a guy named Peter John Ramos who is 7'4 i think that takes care of our center problem so we dont have to get blount and then use the money in FA to replace butler that would have us looking like wade,odom,tmac,ramos, and someone who is decent. That right there can get us to the championship because Tmac is on another level and u say hes selfish but when ur that good and ur one the worst team in the league ur not ganna be bitter either? Ramos is a prospect that has potential but we need immediate help, we need someone that can contribute now, not in a couple of years or at the end of the season. plus, he said he might pull out if he doesn't figure to be in the top 15. plus, what if he tunrs out to be a bust, who do we have as backup? plus, you guys are forgetting that the heat is not the only team that has the decision to make. the magic have to think too "do we wanna make this trade, do we have better trades on the table?" which i believe they will have.
June 18, 200422 yr Either way this was just a scenario that most likely would not happen. I mean all their getting back for Mcgrady is Caron Butler. I'm sure they really dont want Brian Grant and his contract.
June 19, 200422 yr Here's what the Magic are asking for T-Mac so far, I guess you have to start high. From Phoenix, they want Marion AND Stoudamire. From Houston, they want Francis, Mobley, and Cato.
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