July 9, 200422 yr You guys really are sold on Wright aren't you? 448558[/snapback] I am. I realize it could take a couple of years but I got faith in this kid.
July 9, 200422 yr You guys really are sold on Wright aren't you? 448558[/snapback] I am. I realize it could take a couple of years but I got faith in this kid. 448669[/snapback] not only am i sold on him from the beginning,then his 30 point debut,but IMO hes gonna turn out to be the best player in the draft.book it
July 9, 200422 yr Le Batard talked about this on PTI.... He said that we should dangle either Wade or Odom and this would be a steal for Miami. Now on SC they're saying the deal is Odom, Butler, Grant, and a 1st round... oh lord
July 9, 200422 yr Le Batard talked about this on PTI.... He said that we should dangle either Wade or Odom and this would be a steal for Miami. Now on SC they're saying the deal is Odom, Butler, Grant, and a 1st round... oh lord 448892[/snapback] dont do it riley, if u know whats best for u do not do this s*** and break up this team
July 9, 200422 yr Heatgirl add me to ur keep the f***in core list. damn this is pissing me off. all that development last year and i feel so bad for odom. f***ing riley.
July 9, 200422 yr Maybe they will even throw your beloved Wright in the deal. Now that would be funny.
July 9, 200422 yr Heatgirl add me to ur keep the f***in core list. damn this is pissing me off. all that development last year and i feel so bad for odom. f***ing riley. 448894[/snapback] Yeah I will I feel the same way you do. All the sports reporters think this would be such a great deal but since they could give 2 shits about the Heat, they don't think about the future of this team. This move could criple this franchise and chemistry. s*** I feel bad for Odom too, guy has finally found a place where he fits in and now he possibly has to go back to the city that f***ed him over and has to be part of the Laker's messed up team. If this trade goes through with only Odom, Grant, and a 1st rounder - I'll be pissed but if Caron goes too - psh you won't wanna talk to me.
July 9, 200422 yr this iz f***ing great...... i cant belive the heat at all teams are getting this much attention..... i love odom where do u think i got my name from???? but if i have to trade him grant and bulter and a 1pick ill do it..... all thou w e really shouldnt offer them butler i think odom and grant and a 1st should be enough... wow pg. Wade Sg. EJ SF.C. Butler PF. "who knows" C. Shaq CHAMPIONSHIP BABBBBBBBBBY pistons dont even phaaze me
July 10, 200422 yr just the fact that sports is a buisness is a fact on why this trade should be made by the heat. think about it, shaq gives us sooooo much credibility. he is the most marketable player in sports right now. the heat would double ticket prices and it will still sell out the first day. when jones contract is done, we will be one of the most attractive teams because everyone would want to play in miami along side shaq. are media would sky rocket, GLOBALY televised games vs. yao ming. automatic all-star starter. hottest selling jersey in the NBA. In other words, its the best 27 million dollars mickey arison can invest in.
July 10, 200422 yr just the fact that sports is a buisness is a fact on why this trade should be made by the heat. think about it, shaq gives us sooooo much credibility. he is the most marketable player in sports right now. the heat would double ticket prices and it will still sell out the first day. when jones contract is done, we will be one of the most attractive teams because everyone would want to play in miami along side shaq. are media would sky rocket, GLOBALY televised games vs. yao ming. automatic all-star starter. hottest selling jersey in the NBA. In other words, its the best 27 million dollars mickey arison can invest in. 449217[/snapback] i dont agree. yea u might get that for one year or maybe 2 if he doesnt op out. then what? u get all that attention and crap and then u get nothing to build on after hes gone cuz u have traded odom,butler,etc. u dont do this move from a basketball standpoint whatsoever. u are crippling ur franchise for years to come. shaq is on the decline and is not a hard worker.this is basically a gamble to hope u win a title in 2 years. if that doesnt work then what. u keep this team intact and try to unload eddie or grant to be able to sign a big impact big man. The heat should be in the drivers seat cuz the lakers NEED to get rid of shaq cuz he will not play for them. and the lakers do not want to deal him to a west team and the only team in the east that has money value of players to equal shaq is the heat that are on his teams to allow a trade to. if i were miami id make the deal that would benefit the heat which includes not dealing odom or wade,anyone else ok.
July 10, 200422 yr Another good point to bring up: We are gonna have no depth whatsoever, especially if Butler departs too (which he probably would if the trade goes down). Shaq's weight is starting to wear down on him which makes him easily injury proned. Say he gets injured. All we will have is Wade. And while I'm talking about Wade, he wasn't exactly Mr. Healthy last year either. We won't have a good balance at all. We'll have a dominant center and a offensive pg with a bunch of mediocre s*** in the middle. Well there's always EJ but our forward positions are blah. Haslem, Rasual, Wright, Allen can all be quality backups but definitely not good enough to start throughout a whole NBA season.
July 10, 200422 yr *UPDATE* Chad Ford on ESPN Radio: -Talks definitely isn't a rumor, the two teams are talking -Heat are favorites by far at this point -Kupchak feeling pressure to trade Shaq, so LA doesn't have much leverage -Only a good deal for the Heat w/o Caron, only a good deal for LA w/Caron. -Ford thinks if the Lakers want Caron so bad, why not take him with Jones & Grant? If not, take Odom with Grant & the pick. -Ford thinks the "Odom, Grant, filler(possibly Malik Allen), picks" deal will go down
July 10, 200422 yr I hope Lakers would consider taking Lakers Eddie Jones and Grant just to acquire Caron Butler.Lamar Odom would stay in Miami to go along Shaq and Wade but I doubt L.A is that stupid and not take Odom. E.Jones B.Grant C.Butler First Round :deal
July 10, 200422 yr just the fact that sports is a buisness is a fact on why this trade should be made by the heat. think about it, shaq gives us sooooo much credibility. he is the most marketable player in sports right now. the heat would double ticket prices and it will still sell out the first day. when jones contract is done, we will be one of the most attractive teams because everyone would want to play in miami along side shaq. are media would sky rocket, GLOBALY televised games vs. yao ming. automatic all-star starter. hottest selling jersey in the NBA. In other words, its the best 27 million dollars mickey arison can invest in. 449217[/snapback] i dont agree. yea u might get that for one year or maybe 2 if he doesnt op out. then what? u get all that attention and crap and then u get nothing to build on after hes gone cuz u have traded odom,butler,etc. u dont do this move from a basketball standpoint whatsoever. u are crippling ur franchise for years to come. shaq is on the decline and is not a hard worker.this is basically a gamble to hope u win a title in 2 years. if that doesnt work then what. u keep this team intact and try to unload eddie or grant to be able to sign a big impact big man. The heat should be in the drivers seat cuz the lakers NEED to get rid of shaq cuz he will not play for them. and the lakers do not want to deal him to a west team and the only team in the east that has money value of players to equal shaq is the heat that are on his teams to allow a trade to. if i were miami id make the deal that would benefit the heat which includes not dealing odom or wade,anyone else ok. 449294[/snapback] Sheff #1 is 100 percent correct. No need for me to even contribute to this thread.
July 10, 200422 yr Unfortunately, you have to wake up from your dream now If the Lakers were THAT desperate, they'll just do a trade with Dallas without Nowitzki me thinks.
July 10, 200422 yr That's directing to minus, btw. I didn't know you guys were gonna respond so fast lol.
July 10, 200422 yr shaq for grant jones butler yes. anything involving odom or wade no. 449929[/snapback] Wade, Odom, Shaq *drools* As much as I love Caron, you can't have a better 1-2-3 punch. It's not happening but hey it's fun to think about..
July 10, 200422 yr Unfortunately, you have to wake up from your dream now If the Lakers were THAT desperate, they'll just do a trade with Dallas without Nowitzki me thinks. 449943[/snapback] they wont trade him to dallas heatgirl for a couple reasons 1. the main reason, they do not want to trade him to a west team in order to avoid playing him often. 2. Dallas doesnt have anything to offer outside of nowitzki.they have lost nash,and traded jamison and all they have left of value is finley. the rest are young rookies and some old veterans that cant match shaqs contract. 3.finally,the heat should be in the drivers seat.recent interviews have said the lakers are rushing to deal shaq so they can confirm he wil be gone and sign back kobe.they are desperate to get rid of him and the only team right now able to take on shaqs contract and is on his list of teams to go to is the heat. the should make the offer of grant,jones,butler and a 1st round pick and if they dont take it then dont make the trade. right now the heat have the right to make the demands cuz the lakers CAN NOT keep shaq and must deal him fast b4 kobe signs elswhere.
July 10, 200422 yr shaq for grant jones butler yes. anything involving odom or wade no. 449929[/snapback] Wade, Odom, Shaq *drools* As much as I love Caron, you can't have a better 1-2-3 punch. It's not happening but hey it's fun to think about.. 449972[/snapback] sure you can look at KOBE, SHAQ, PAYTON.. HECK ADD MALONE 1-2-3-4 PUNCH.. WHAT HAPPENED?! NOTHING
July 10, 200422 yr shaq for grant jones butler yes. anything involving odom or wade no. 449929[/snapback] Wade, Odom, Shaq *drools* As much as I love Caron, you can't have a better 1-2-3 punch. It's not happening but hey it's fun to think about.. 449972[/snapback] sure you can look at KOBE, SHAQ, PAYTON.. HECK ADD MALONE 1-2-3-4 PUNCH.. WHAT HAPPENED?! NOTHING 449980[/snapback] wade>payton odom>malone shaq would be ours and kobe is a ball hog and couldnt get along with shaq. they were old and had no depth off the bench. we would have rasual,haslem,wright,allen off the bench.
July 10, 200422 yr Unfortunately, you have to wake up from your dream now If the Lakers were THAT desperate, they'll just do a trade with Dallas without Nowitzki me thinks. 449943[/snapback] they wont trade him to dallas heatgirl for a couple reasons 1. the main reason, they do not want to trade him to a west team in order to avoid playing him often. 2. Dallas doesnt have anything to offer outside of nowitzki.they have lost nash,and traded jamison and all they have left of value is finley. the rest are young rookies and some old veterans that cant match shaqs contract. 3.finally,the heat should be in the drivers seat.recent interviews have said the lakers are rushing to deal shaq so they can confirm he wil be gone and sign back kobe.they are desperate to get rid of him and the only team right now able to take on shaqs contract and is on his list of teams to go to is the heat. the should make the offer of grant,jones,butler and a 1st round pick and if they dont take it then dont make the trade. right now the heat have the right to make the demands cuz the lakers CAN NOT keep shaq and must deal him fast b4 kobe signs elswhere. 449978[/snapback] Yeah, you're right about Dallas. I was thinking the same thing about the West, it's actually pretty smart of the Lakers not wanting to make an enemy west team any stronger. If the Caron, EJ, Grant, and 1st rounder scenario worked out, I would die (in a good way lol). I know I make it seem like I hate Shaq or something but it's not that, it's the fact that we would have to give up Odom. But to keep Odom AND add Shaq would be a dream not only to the next couple of years but to the future as well. If Shaq leaves, we'll have our core AND money. Don't get my hopes up now Sheff...
July 10, 200422 yr Unfortunately, you have to wake up from your dream now If the Lakers were THAT desperate, they'll just do a trade with Dallas without Nowitzki me thinks. 449943[/snapback] they wont trade him to dallas heatgirl for a couple reasons 1. the main reason, they do not want to trade him to a west team in order to avoid playing him often. 2. Dallas doesnt have anything to offer outside of nowitzki.they have lost nash,and traded jamison and all they have left of value is finley. the rest are young rookies and some old veterans that cant match shaqs contract. 3.finally,the heat should be in the drivers seat.recent interviews have said the lakers are rushing to deal shaq so they can confirm he wil be gone and sign back kobe.they are desperate to get rid of him and the only team right now able to take on shaqs contract and is on his list of teams to go to is the heat. the should make the offer of grant,jones,butler and a 1st round pick and if they dont take it then dont make the trade. right now the heat have the right to make the demands cuz the lakers CAN NOT keep shaq and must deal him fast b4 kobe signs elswhere. 449978[/snapback] Yeah, you're right about Dallas. I was thinking the same thing about the West, it's actually pretty smart of the Lakers not wanting to make an enemy west team any stronger. If the Caron, EJ, Grant, and 1st rounder scenario worked out, I would die (in a good way lol). I know I make it seem like I hate Shaq or something but it's not that, it's the fact that we would have to give up Odom. But to keep Odom AND add Shaq would be a dream not only to the next couple of years but to the future as well. If Shaq leaves, we'll have our core AND money. Don't get my hopes up now Sheff... 449999[/snapback] dont worry i wont get your hopes up. see the thing i know for sure is i know riley and the way he works. ive followed him ever since he got here 9 years ago.if anything the man is loyal.he brought in odom last year to change his career around and brought him here personally cuz he loved odom ever since he saw him at the draft workouts.He would not shell out that cash to bring him here and watch him turn into the stud he did last year then turn around and trade him for year or 2 rental of shaq. riley will stay loyal to odom like he has all his players. remember that anthony carter ridiculous contract? he promised him that. I can pretty much guarentee odom or wade will not be included in any deal.
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