July 16, 200422 yr HBO has every right to drop him...but I'm pretty sure they hired Dennis Miller to make remarks like that. I doubt Slim Fast hired Whoopi to make comments about Bush.
July 16, 200422 yr A law suit you'd probably lose, because it was an advertising deal and in this case slim fast wanted a recognizeable face w/o the extra luggage of having negative PR. And in fact the Republicans have the right to demonize her for her comments as much as she had the right to say them.? Thats free speech in full circle, and slim fast wasnt pressured to drop her they felt like doing it b/c of negative publicity that she recieved b/c of these comments. The republicans criticized her for her comments they did not try to censor her at all. Do you prefer the republicans say nothing against this personal assault that whoopi took on the president? Obviously not. No party did anything illegal here. Whoopi can say what she wants, the republicans can express themselves to media however they please as protected by the 1st amendment, and slim fast can hire or fire whoever they want, AND in fact you do not know the terms of whoopi's advertising contracts with slim fast. 460283[/snapback] :mischief2 I wonder how some of you would feel if HBO dropped Dennis Miller now. He recently made insulting remarks about how Kerry and Edwards are gay in a private event at a Bush Fundraiser... Yes Free Speech goes both ways. But you know what, you can keep coming back here and try to sugar coat the issue saying that Slim-Fast had the right to fire Whoopie based on that... But the truth is that if it happened to you, you'll be the first in court. Oh and another thing. Dennis will not get dropped and he'll continue to make his stupid remarks, because Democrats believe in free speech and most liberals don't give a damn what some guy says at a private event for Bush. Liberals live and let live. Case closed. 460288[/snapback] Motion to reopen granted....... Slim Fast fired Whoopi...period. If you know anything baout political ideology, guess what? Conservatives believe in free speech as well, surprise surprise. Dennis Miller has a TV show not a contract to make a few ads, different story. You blame the republicans, but it isnt the republicans fault, its slim fasts fault. The republicans have the right to defend themselves after a vulgar attack like that. And you want a hit of realism to go w/ it? The reason dems would not make a defensive remark about a comment involving homosexuality, is b/c that would lead to people to think that kerry and edwards have negative feelings toward homosexuality and thats a no-no, because homosexuals in general support kerry/edwards. Apples and oranges on both issues. Whoopi said something that was not tasteful, some people got offended and defended themselves, media blew it out of proportion, and slim fast chose to fire her. If dennis miller had said the a similar thing about kerry and he was making an ad for slim fast, they would have fired him too. Remeber rush got fired for his comment about mcNabb. What happened to liberals live and let live there?
July 16, 200422 yr Rush Limbaugh's radio show is not vile. 459923[/snapback] "‘have you ever noticed how all composite pictures of wanted criminals resemble Jesse Jackson?" ""The NAACP should have riot rehearsal. They should get a liquor store and practice robberies"" " "I don't give a hoot that [Columbus] gave some Indians a disease that they didn't have immunity against"" " Why should Blacks be heard? They're 12% of the population. Who the hell cares."" " If we are going to start rewarding no skills and stupid people-- I'm serious, let the unskilled jobs that take absolutely no knowledge whatsoever to do--let the stupid and unskilled Mexicans do that work." " What a lovable teddy bear, Cape
July 16, 200422 yr Rush Limbaugh's radio show is not vile. 459923[/snapback] "?have you ever noticed how all composite pictures of wanted criminals resemble Jesse Jackson?" ""The NAACP should have riot rehearsal. They should get a liquor store and practice robberies"" " "I don't give a hoot that [Columbus] gave some Indians a disease that they didn't have immunity against"" " Why should Blacks be heard? They're 12% of the population. Who the hell cares."" " If we are going to start rewarding no skills and stupid people-- I'm serious, let the unskilled jobs that take absolutely no knowledge whatsoever to do--let the stupid and unskilled Mexicans do that work." " What a lovable teddy bear, Cape 460297[/snapback] Isn't free speech wonderful! This hateful, stupid man still has his show on the air... WOW and Howard Stern is indecent. To Legacy, Drop it! It has been discussed over and over...
July 16, 200422 yr Rush Limbaugh's radio show is not vile. 459923[/snapback] "?have you ever noticed how all composite pictures of wanted criminals resemble Jesse Jackson?" ""The NAACP should have riot rehearsal. They should get a liquor store and practice robberies"" " "I don't give a hoot that [Columbus] gave some Indians a disease that they didn't have immunity against"" " Why should Blacks be heard? They're 12% of the population. Who the hell cares."" " If we are going to start rewarding no skills and stupid people-- I'm serious, let the unskilled jobs that take absolutely no knowledge whatsoever to do--let the stupid and unskilled Mexicans do that work." " What a lovable teddy bear, Cape 460297[/snapback] Isn't free speech wonderful! This hateful, stupid man still has his show on the air... WOW and Howard Stern is indecent. To Legacy, Drop it! It has been discussed over and over... 460299[/snapback] Yes it has and you're wrong, you're just pist off b/c whoopi made vulgar comments about bush and she suffered consequences for her irresponsibility. It isnt a freedom of speech issue, in fact it isnt an issue at all. She did somehting that got her negative PR and shes suffering for it.
July 16, 200422 yr Yes it has and you're wrong, you're just pist off b/c whoopi made vulgar comments about bush and she suffered consequences for her irresponsibility. It isnt a freedom of speech issue, in fact it isnt an issue at all. She did somehting that got her negative PR and shes suffering for it. 460325[/snapback] *sigh* Whatever Legacy, you're almighty and know absolutely everything... I'm wrong because I'm a liberal. Why can't Republicans stop being such whiny little babies and grow up for a change? Impossible! they think they are right... All the freaking time. I'm going on a tree hugging rally... See ya!
July 16, 200422 yr Rush Limbaugh's radio show is not vile. 459923[/snapback] "?have you ever noticed how all composite pictures of wanted criminals resemble Jesse Jackson?" ""The NAACP should have riot rehearsal. They should get a liquor store and practice robberies"" " "I don't give a hoot that [Columbus] gave some Indians a disease that they didn't have immunity against"" " Why should Blacks be heard? They're 12% of the population. Who the hell cares."" " If we are going to start rewarding no skills and stupid people-- I'm serious, let the unskilled jobs that take absolutely no knowledge whatsoever to do--let the stupid and unskilled Mexicans do that work." " What a lovable teddy bear, Cape 460297[/snapback] How the hell this man still has a show?
July 16, 200422 yr people like him. I dont really listen to too much talk radio, unless it's Monsters In the Morning (orlando 104.1), or Drew Garabo for a little bit at nite. I cant listen to either for too long though....listening to people talk gets boring unless they're funny (Monsters = funny). I dont like Stern because he aint funny
July 16, 200422 yr Yes it has and you're wrong, you're just pist off b/c whoopi made vulgar comments about bush and she suffered consequences for her irresponsibility. It isnt a freedom of speech issue, in fact it isnt an issue at all. She did somehting that got her negative PR and shes suffering for it. 460325[/snapback] *sigh* Whatever Legacy, you're almighty and know absolutely everything... I'm wrong because I'm a liberal. Why can't Republicans stop being such whiny little babies and grow up for a change? Impossible! they think they are right... All the freaking time. I'm going on a tree hugging rally... See ya! 460372[/snapback] I'm actually a libertarian and youre not wrong b/c you're a liberal, you're wrong b/c in this particular issue your argument has no weight. It's an issue about a private business's choices on their own matters and has nothign to do w/ censorship b/c who's the one censoring who? You might be pissed off at SLIM FAST for firing her, and thats ok, but you cant blame the republicans for being offended and exercising their first amendment rights by defending themselves.
July 16, 200422 yr Yes it has and you're wrong, you're just pist off b/c whoopi made vulgar comments about bush and she suffered consequences for her irresponsibility. It isnt a freedom of speech issue, in fact it isnt an issue at all. She did somehting that got her negative PR and shes suffering for it. 460325[/snapback] *sigh* Whatever Legacy, you're almighty and know absolutely everything... I'm wrong because I'm a liberal. Why can't Republicans stop being such whiny little babies and grow up for a change? Impossible! they think they are right... All the freaking time. I'm going on a tree hugging rally... See ya! 460372[/snapback] I'm actually a libertarian and youre not wrong b/c you're a liberal, you're wrong b/c in this particular issue your argument has no weight. It's an issue about a private business's choices on their own matters and has nothign to do w/ censorship b/c who's the one censoring who? You might be pissed off at SLIM FAST for firing her, and thats ok, but you cant blame the republicans for being offended and exercising their first amendment rights by defending themselves. 460491[/snapback] It has no weight because you think it has no weight... If you think about it from my perspective it does have weight. BTW there is absolutely no difference between Libertarians and Republicans. One is the causation of the other.
July 16, 200422 yr Yes it has and you're wrong, you're just pist off b/c whoopi made vulgar comments about bush and she suffered consequences for her irresponsibility. It isnt a freedom of speech issue, in fact it isnt an issue at all. She did somehting that got her negative PR and shes suffering for it. 460325[/snapback] *sigh* Whatever Legacy, you're almighty and know absolutely everything... I'm wrong because I'm a liberal. Why can't Republicans stop being such whiny little babies and grow up for a change? Impossible! they think they are right... All the freaking time. I'm going on a tree hugging rally... See ya! 460372[/snapback] I'm actually a libertarian and youre not wrong b/c you're a liberal, you're wrong b/c in this particular issue your argument has no weight. It's an issue about a private business's choices on their own matters and has nothign to do w/ censorship b/c who's the one censoring who? You might be pissed off at SLIM FAST for firing her, and thats ok, but you cant blame the republicans for being offended and exercising their first amendment rights by defending themselves. 460491[/snapback] It has no weight because you think it has no weight... If you think about it from my perspective it does have weight. BTW there is absolutely no difference between Libertarians and Republicans. One is the causation of the other. 460495[/snapback] I can think of a difference... Republicans aren't confused.
July 16, 200422 yr Yes it has and you're wrong, you're just pist off b/c whoopi made vulgar comments about bush and she suffered consequences for her irresponsibility. It isnt a freedom of speech issue, in fact it isnt an issue at all. She did somehting that got her negative PR and shes suffering for it. 460325[/snapback] *sigh* Whatever Legacy, you're almighty and know absolutely everything... I'm wrong because I'm a liberal. Why can't Republicans stop being such whiny little babies and grow up for a change? Impossible! they think they are right... All the freaking time. I'm going on a tree hugging rally... See ya! 460372[/snapback] I'm actually a libertarian and youre not wrong b/c you're a liberal, you're wrong b/c in this particular issue your argument has no weight. It's an issue about a private business's choices on their own matters and has nothign to do w/ censorship b/c who's the one censoring who? You might be pissed off at SLIM FAST for firing her, and thats ok, but you cant blame the republicans for being offended and exercising their first amendment rights by defending themselves. 460491[/snapback] It has no weight because you think it has no weight... If you think about it from my perspective it does have weight. BTW there is absolutely no difference between Libertarians and Republicans. One is the causation of the other. 460495[/snapback] I can think of a difference... Republicans aren't confused. 460512[/snapback] No difference b/w libertarians and republicans???!!!?! Are you serious?! Theres a huge difference. Let me name just a few...we dont like extensive spending not even military spending, we believe that govt should not be involved in your life in any aspect (including homosexual union, pornography, and censorship, prostitution, legalization), and we believe that one persons rights end where another person's begin. In fact you should visit http://www.libertarianparty.com/ or www. bureaucrash.com and get informed. We stick to our guns and we are consistent in our beliefs whether you agree with them or not.
July 16, 200422 yr I can think of a difference... Republicans aren't confused. 460512[/snapback] :mischief
July 16, 200422 yr No difference b/w libertarians and republicans???!!!?! Are you serious?! Theres a huge difference. Let me name just a few...we dont like extensive spending not even military spending, we believe that govt should not be involved in your life in any aspect (including homosexual union, pornography, and censorship, prostitution, legalization), and we believe that one persons rights end where another person's begin. In fact you should visit http://www.libertarianparty.com/ or www. bureaucrash.com and get informed. We stick to our guns and we are consistent in our beliefs whether you agree with them or not. 460555[/snapback] Those same values that you have just outlined, are the values that the Republican party champions. That they have deviated from that and chose to go to the extreme right is another thing.
July 16, 200422 yr BTW there is absolutely no difference between Libertarians and Republicans. One is the causation of the other. 460495[/snapback] You are, as usual, very confused and ignorant about anything other than what is known and comfortable to you. Libertarians are agast at how this government is run right now. 460672[/snapback] Libertarians as I previously said are the causation of the Republican party. Libertarians ideals are nothing but the core ideals of the Republican party. You are as usual confused and ignorant about anything other than what is known and comfortable to you.
July 16, 200422 yr Good thats what u get for bashing the president ..if you think this country is so bad more your ass to canada...
July 16, 200422 yr Good thats what u get for bashing the president 460841[/snapback] Yeah who gives a crap about Freedom of Speech and Democracy anyway? We'd be much better off if you would disappear in the night if you question those above you. Just like in Stalin's Russia. Those were the good ole days
July 16, 200422 yr they think they are right. 460372[/snapback] You do realize whether correct or incorrect, conservatives will always be right?
July 16, 200422 yr they think they are right. 460372[/snapback] You do realize whether correct or incorrect, conservatives will always be right? 460892[/snapback] :lol
July 16, 200422 yr Good thats what u get for bashing the president 460841[/snapback] Yeah who gives a crap about Freedom of Speech and Democracy anyway? We'd be much better off if you would disappear in the night if you question those above you. Just like in Stalin's Russia. Those were the good ole days 460844[/snapback] Dude freedom of speech is great but you shouldnt bash your leaders in public for the world to see...yea he has done alot of thing people disagree with but like i said i dont agree with public bashing...he is our president like it or not...i guess am old school but thats my opinion...
July 17, 200422 yr I dont think we should be allowed to vote against presidents either....they deserve respect, and voting for someone else is disrespectful...how do you think they'd feel if they lost!
July 20, 200422 yr Sorry to bring this topic back up, but i have to make a few points. First of all public bashing of govt officials is ok, there are questions of tact and ethics when doing so, for example critsizing what a president does bad is good, calling them stupid and such is unecessary and not constructive. Second, far right does not mean your big on morals and traditional values, in fact the political ideology spectrum is not just left right, its left right, authoritarian and libertarian. So what you call far right is actually just close rto authoritarian than what conservatives should be. And finally the libertarians are different from republicans in a lot of different issues especially, 'social' ones. Do your homework and youll see what i mean
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