Ramp Posted April 27, 2005 Share Posted April 27, 2005 I don't appreciate the stupid comment, but anyway I thought it was a good idea since ENC has been more patient. 52 million or not, the top of the order needs to consist of contact, cabrera is proven at the 4th spot, delgado in the fifth spot can do what Andrew Jones does for the Braves. 756025[/snapback] Delgado is a more patient hitter than Encarnacion(in their careers) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Punisher Posted April 27, 2005 Author Share Posted April 27, 2005 am not saying career, for right now, delgado has less patience at the plate than Encarnacion, and he's hot, u move him up and he will get more pitches to hit with Cabrera and Delgado batting right after. For one moment don't be such a fan and think realistically, Can ENC produce from the third spot, aren't a team's hottest hitters suppose to grab a hold of 3-4? We might be 6-3, but how much better can it be with ENC in the third hole? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramp Posted April 27, 2005 Share Posted April 27, 2005 Enc is 2 for his last 16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Punisher Posted April 27, 2005 Author Share Posted April 27, 2005 perhaps, but that's because of the spot he is hitting, him hitting 3rd can set the stage for that to change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramp Posted April 27, 2005 Share Posted April 27, 2005 perhaps, but that's because of the spot he is hitting, him hitting 3rd can set the stage for that to change. 756059[/snapback] lololol he is 2 for his last 16 because he is hitting 5th? It's not like Lo Duca is struggling behind him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotcorner Posted April 27, 2005 Share Posted April 27, 2005 What's the point in moving Delgado down? He's been very consistent. Just because the HRs haven't come in bunches yet, give me a break. He's a better hitter than Encarnacion any day of the week. I'm all for riding this hot streak by Juan but let's not go overboard here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Punisher Posted April 27, 2005 Author Share Posted April 27, 2005 Dude, am entitled to my opinion, I as manager of the Marlins would do it, your problem is your just a fan, just cause a name is Carlos Delgado doesn't mean he mean he can't hit fifth, and doesn't mean enc can't emerge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramp Posted April 27, 2005 Share Posted April 27, 2005 Dude, am entitled to my opinion, I as manager of the Marlins would do it, your problem is your just a fan, just cause a name is Carlos Delgado doesn't mean he mean he can't hit fifth, and doesn't mean enc can't emerge. 756066[/snapback] Im just saying your reasoning doesnt make sense you say lets ride Enc's hot streak, but he is 2 for his last 16 you say he is in that slump because he is hitting 5th, Lo Duca is giving him enough protection I see no reason to move Delgado down in the order just so Encarnacion can hit with RISP instead of someone a bit more proven Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotcorner Posted April 27, 2005 Share Posted April 27, 2005 who said you can't have your opinion? I'm ecstatic you'd bat Enc 3rd and Delgado 5th. And does Enc need to bat 3rd to "emerge"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Punisher Posted April 27, 2005 Author Share Posted April 27, 2005 guys like delgado are designed to protect other hitters. we have three guys like him, LOWELL (struggling but will break through it), Cabrera, Delgado himself, I was just thinking with enc hot we could experiment, which Jack is not against. You know what, next time I see jack at gate A am going to shoot the idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Punisher Posted April 27, 2005 Author Share Posted April 27, 2005 OK, am staying with the idea, in my eyes it's a great idea, if you guys don't see what I see I'm not going to bash you to see the point. No point in arguing. Seems like everyone wants to be an expert. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramp Posted April 27, 2005 Share Posted April 27, 2005 OK, am staying with the idea, in my eyes it's a great idea, if you guys don't see what I see I'm not going to bash you to see the point. No point in arguing. Seems like everyone wants to be an expert. 756072[/snapback] you give up a bit too easily Mav 1 TheNewZo2005649117239240328e9027u2 0 :whistle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Punisher Posted April 27, 2005 Author Share Posted April 27, 2005 no it's just dumb to me, I don't give up easy for things that matter, but am entitled to my opinion, and you seem glued to yours, it's one AM, and I have things to do other than typing in a forum about something I will never be able to convince anyone here about except for 1 or two maybe, in conclusion my idea stands, I feel like enc is perfect for the third spot, delgado and cabrera scare more than lo duca, sorry to burst your bubble, he'd get wayyyyyy more to hit, enc has contact, power, and speed, it compliments pierre and castillo at the top, shame you don't see what I see, but hey it's cool, your also entitled to your opinion, and to everyone else that thinks am stupid, thanks for the compliment, it just make my time here sweeter since I have your attention. GO MARLINS! ALL HAIL THE MIGHTY FISH, AND BOW TO mr. Marlins himself, JEFF CONINE! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miguelcabrera2420 Posted April 27, 2005 Share Posted April 27, 2005 I personally like Cabrera hitting 3rd and they should bring Lowell back to the Clean up give him some type of push to show they trust him and he will pull out remember he became the Mike Lowell we all love when he was hitting in the clean up roll i agree put delgado at the 5th spot leave Enc at the 6th spot even if he is hot or not let him and delgado and lo duca run the back end this line up is filled with guns no matter how you move them around you are never going to be happy. The top two Juan and Luisand the last 2 Alex and Pitcher of the day are the only spot you know will be the same every day. well unless d-train is batting s*** on day Jack should put his big ass at the clean up spot. What do you think ESPN would say about that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramp Posted April 27, 2005 Share Posted April 27, 2005 lololol Enc has contact. am entitled to my own opinion too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legacyofCangelosi Posted April 27, 2005 Share Posted April 27, 2005 Delgado is hitting well. In fact last night he made that hit to opposite field which is sweet. If delgado keeps making hits to opposite field opponents will have no choice but to rearrange the shift. If they go back to a more normal infield defense he can have more opportunities pulling the ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rferry Posted April 27, 2005 Share Posted April 27, 2005 Eventually I'd like to see Cabrera or Lowell moved ahead of Delgado in the lineup. Not for way they are or not hitting. It would helpful to each's development. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Marino Forever 13 Posted April 27, 2005 Share Posted April 27, 2005 Delgado shouldn't be moved down. Give him a chance, if he doesn't start something in the next few games then move him down to clean-up. Encarnacion isn't hitting great right now, but he still has 2 grannies this year. TheNewZO2005649117- Sorry about the comment. That is why I changed it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Marino Forever 13 Posted April 27, 2005 Share Posted April 27, 2005 Eventually I'd like to see Cabrera or Lowell moved ahead of Delgado in the lineup. Not for way they are or not hitting. It would helpful to each's development. 756126[/snapback] Cabrera's best spot is clean-up with Mike Lowell in the 5th spot. 1. Juan Pierre 2. Luis Castillo 3. Carlos Delgado 4. Miguel Cabrera 5. Mike Lowell 6. Juan Encarnacion 7. Paul LoDuca 8. Alex Gonzalez The perfect line-up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legacyofCangelosi Posted April 27, 2005 Share Posted April 27, 2005 I like cabrera at 3 and delgado at 4. I dont think lowell has much development left, hes a 7 year veteran Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rferry Posted April 27, 2005 Share Posted April 27, 2005 Why do you say that? Spots in the lineup are dependant on who is batting around them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legacyofCangelosi Posted April 27, 2005 Share Posted April 27, 2005 Why do you say that? Spots in the lineup are dependant on who is batting around them. 756156[/snapback] Are u directing that at me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Moneyball Posted April 27, 2005 Share Posted April 27, 2005 Damn money ball you took my night of the loss subforum and topics out of your sig that really crushes me 755866[/snapback] I'll put it back in my sig just for you. :mischief :plain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marlin Nation Posted April 28, 2005 Share Posted April 28, 2005 guys like delgado are designed to protect other hitters. we have three guys like him, LOWELL (struggling but will break through it), Cabrera, Delgado himself, I was just thinking with enc hot we could experiment, which Jack is not against. You know what, next time I see jack at gate A am going to shoot the idea. 756071[/snapback] I'm sure a WS winning manager loves to hear how to run his 1st place team by a fan. :cool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rferry Posted April 28, 2005 Share Posted April 28, 2005 Why do you say that? Spots in the lineup are dependant on who is batting around them. 756156[/snapback] Are u directing that at me? 756253[/snapback] gomarlins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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