May 31, 200521 yr Marlins, Officials Still Haggling Over Stadium Changes POSTED: 5:53 pm EDT May 31, 2005 MIAMI -- City and county officials along with the Marlins and stadium owner Wayne Huizenga are considering, among other things, the possibility of putting a domed-roof on the existing stadium in an attempt to keep the team here. Dolphins Stadium. Local 10 has learned that Marlins President David Samson asked the Miami and Miami-Dade County managers last Friday to make up a $30 million stadium funding deficit with still more tourist tax dollars. The proposal came in the wake of failure by the state legislature to fill a $30-million funding gap for a new stadium and the rejection of a team request for more tourist tax dollars. With a firm "no" from County Manager George Burgess and Miami City Manager Joe Arriola, and no additional money available from the Marlins, Local 10 has now learned that another proposal has resurfaced from Dolphins Stadium owner Wayne Huizenga. Local 10's sources say the deal calls for the $138 million in tourist tax money already committed for a new stadium to be spent for a roof on Dolphins Stadium; the Marlins would play in the stadium rent free; and for the first time, the Marlins would get revenue from concessions and from sky boxes and club seats. The county would also get some kind of ownership or management contract with the stadium for Marlins baseball. Huizenga would still control all revenues from the Dolphins and would be guaranteed a consistent fan base for his proposed $300-million "super site" entertainment complex, to be built adjacent to the stadium. At this point, there is still no real commitment of any kind. For the record, even though it seems unlikely, Burgess told Local 10 he is still trying to put together a deal for a stadium next to the Orange Bowl. A new deal at Dolphins Stadium is more likely to succeed, according to Local 10's Michael Putney, who has closely followed the developments. While the Marlins owners have always insisted they want their own stadium, Putney says they might have to settle for a better deal at the one where they now play. Major league baseball has given all the parties an ultimatum that a deal has to be done by June 9. Copyright 2005 by Local10.com. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed. http://www.local10.com/news/4552036/detail.html
May 31, 200521 yr My analysis of this offer: http://www.marlinbaseball.com/forums/index...showtopic=43716
June 11, 200521 yr A reader comments on the proposal: http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/opinion/l...la-news-letters Huizenga role in stadium ignored Norman L. Weiss Boca Raton Posted June 11 2005 Nowhere in your coverage of the news on the failed maneuvering to capture funding from "public" sources for the Marlins did I see anything about the power fight between the interests controlling the Marlins and those of the Dolphins. H. Wayne Huizenga seems to have won that fight. Was it not newsworthy to you? The reports I read made it seem with over 75 percent of the electorate indicating that they did not want to have tax money used for the construction of a domed stadium for the Marlins, some portions of the Florida Legislature balked at using our money for this project. That apparently was not the real story of this fight. It is a wonder that your staff did not disclose the opposition was from the interests of the owner of Dolphins Stadium. I think you missed real news in your coverage. As to the funding of a domed stadium over the existing Dolphins Stadium, the people previously, without voting for it, donated the sales taxes twice for the reconstruction of the stadium, for football and then again for baseball. With all the billions available to the Dolphins, they do not merit using more of the sales and hotel bed tax money for such a big private business. Our money is better used to improve education, housing, museums, playgrounds and other things that directly relate to the public good. I do believe the South Florida Sun-Sentinel missed the boat on this news item. Will you cover it now and tell us the real shenanigans that went on?
June 11, 200521 yr Team appears to be coming in for a safe landing on this deal. County, city, and Marlins look to have it done soon hopefully.
June 11, 200521 yr Team appears to be coming in for a safe landing on this deal. County, city, and Marlins look to have it done soon hopefully. 805872[/snapback] What deal are yo talking about? The DS deal or OB deal?
June 12, 200521 yr OB deal 806016[/snapback] Good, b/c this is a desperate move by Wayne. He realizes, if the Marlins can somehow go forward without the state this year, next year he won't have a Tom Lee to stop the them. Alex Villalobos will be in the chair and we know what his position is on the stadium :thumbup
June 12, 200521 yr I just realized.... With the DS deal, Wayne would have gotten a roof for free. That's 100M off this "Dolphin Town" plan pricetag.
June 12, 200521 yr I just realized.... With the DS deal, Wayne would have gotten a roof for free. That's 100M off this "Dolphin Town" plan pricetag. 806297[/snapback] yup
June 12, 200521 yr I just realized.... With the DS deal, Wayne would have gotten a roof for free. That's 100M off this "Dolphin Town" plan pricetag. 806297[/snapback] It's no wonder Wayne has changed his tune. How about Wayne kicking in the dough to build a new Marlins ballpark next to DS? :lol :lol After all, think of all the clientale he will generate for his new Dolphins Town.
June 12, 200521 yr Cape, Im tired of hearing you say, "the deal is done", Ive been hearing this for over a year...I enjoy your optimism, but enough, you have no facts its all made up...
June 12, 200521 yr Cape, Im tired of hearing you say, "the deal is done", Ive been hearing this for over a year...I enjoy your optimism, but enough, you have no facts its all made up... 807084[/snapback] They have the budget set on what they can spend. This issue right now is what will be cut from the proposed ballpark to meet the budget. The three sides are still trying to work that out. It is almost done, when you build a house you spend plenty of time selecting the floors, cabinets, colors, etc. Now they must decided whether to give up the proverbial bigger appliances or lower the type of flooring to just tile in some areas. When you are going to build a facility of such cost and importance you should expect them to take time to decide the final details.
June 12, 200521 yr Cape, Im tired of hearing you say, "the deal is done", Ive been hearing this for over a year...I enjoy your optimism, but enough, you have no facts its all made up... 807084[/snapback] They have the budget set on what they can spend. This issue right now is what will be cut from the proposed ballpark to meet the budget. The three sides are still trying to work that out. It is almost done, when you build a house you spend plenty of time selecting the floors, cabinets, colors, etc. Now they must decided whether to give up the proverbial bigger appliances or lower the type of flooring to just tile in some areas. When you are going to build a facility of such cost and importance you should expect them to take time to decide the final details. 807109[/snapback] Cape, dude I see politics in your future. :lol
June 12, 200521 yr Cape, Im tired of hearing you say, "the deal is done", Ive been hearing this for over a year...I enjoy your optimism, but enough, you have no facts its all made up... 807084[/snapback] They have the budget set on what they can spend. This issue right now is what will be cut from the proposed ballpark to meet the budget. The three sides are still trying to work that out. It is almost done, when you build a house you spend plenty of time selecting the floors, cabinets, colors, etc. Now they must decided whether to give up the proverbial bigger appliances or lower the type of flooring to just tile in some areas. When you are going to build a facility of such cost and importance you should expect them to take time to decide the final details. 807109[/snapback] Cape, dude I see politics in your future. :lol 807148[/snapback] YUP! All fluff, no substance.
June 13, 200521 yr What do you want posted? Nothing else is coming out. The roof is not being argued here. The baseball field will have 3 bases and a home plate. A scoreboard of some sort will be there as will a videoboard. How they close in the budget is not a worry as long as it gets done.
June 13, 200521 yr Cape, I would like to have your optimism. But when I hear city and county refer to the deal as "not dead yet", I would imaging that they aren't as optimistic as you. In addition, why would Loria want to close the gap of the 30 or 45 million? If he puts in more money and the deal is done he will have to repay the loan to MLB (30 + 45 = 75 million, and that's not happening). Miami and the county don't want to contribute another cent. This thing gets stripped the roof, or ain't getting done.
June 13, 200521 yr No deal without a roof either. The team has been adamant about that from the very beginning. I still believe a deal will happen.
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