Hotcorner Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 Per Shamrock's request, here it is, and it ain't even close. Run Support (Average per 9 innings) Beckett - 6.2 D.Willis - 6.2 Burnett - 3.9 A.Leiter - 3.0 Moehler - 1.9 Moehler has 17 runs of support in 62+ innings pitched. The very lowest run support I can find for a pitcher with at least 5 starts right now in the NL is 16. So they've been about as bad as possible for him. You can match up ERA with run support and see why Dontrelle and Josh have such good records, and why Al's is poor. But Moehler has gotten no help at all. Leiter's run support hasn't been very good either, but he's pitching so poorly that it probably wouldn't matter much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 Get the man some runs already. Amazing, Josh and Dontrelle haven't even needed that much support. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beetle Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 ...Moehler has 17 runs of support in 62+ innings pitched... And two of those he had to drive in himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotcorner Posted June 9, 2005 Author Share Posted June 9, 2005 :lol good point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Folklegend Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 I would assume Dontrelle's run support would be higher (maybe not that much higher) because he's a decent hitter relative to the other pitchers. Hell, he's better than some of our position players at this point. Still, you'd hope that run distribution starts to even out over the course of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuickGold Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 Moehler is this team's MVP in my mind based on pre-season expectations Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Eyes Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 this guy should have at least 4 wins under his belt this season, they don't score runs for him and also they blown like 2 of his leads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSwift25 Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 ...Moehler has 17 runs of support in 62+ innings pitched... And two of those he had to drive in himself. 802251[/snapback] So, using that stat, he has the worst run support of any pitcher with more than 5 starts in the majors. Awesome! Great job, offense. :notworthy :notworthy :notworthy :thumbdown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotcorner Posted June 9, 2005 Author Share Posted June 9, 2005 actually I wasn't 100% accurate there, there's a couple other pitchers in the same boat.... but they all have bad ERAs. Like Dewan Brazelton for Tampa... 8 starts, 42 IP, only 13 runs of support but his ERA is over 6. I can't find anyone even remotely close to Moehler with comparable innings and ERA with that kind of run support. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSwift25 Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 actually I wasn't 100% accurate there, there's a couple other pitchers in the same boat.... but they all have bad ERAs. Like Dewan Brazelton for Tampa... 8 starts, 42 IP, only 13 runs of support but his ERA is over 6. I can't find anyone even remotely close to Moehler with comparable innings and ERA with that kind of run support. 802390[/snapback] And, we must remember, he's a #5 meaning he usually goes against other teams #5's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Juanky Posted June 10, 2005 Share Posted June 10, 2005 actually I wasn't 100% accurate there, there's a couple other pitchers in the same boat.... but they all have bad ERAs. Like Dewan Brazelton for Tampa... 8 starts, 42 IP, only 13 runs of support but his ERA is over 6. I can't find anyone even remotely close to Moehler with comparable innings and ERA with that kind of run support. 802390[/snapback] And, we must remember, he's a #5 meaning he usually goes against other teams #5's. 802395[/snapback] Naw, cuz of rest he's going against 3 and 4's now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marlins Posted June 10, 2005 Share Posted June 10, 2005 I've mentioned this before...If you look at his record you'll get mislead. If you look at his expectations thne you'll get mislead. If you look at his position as our 5th starter you'll get mislead.....etc. He's really much better and if he would get as much run support as Willis gets then he would also have 10 wins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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