I also have the feeling but that is not the answer.

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What's the answer then?

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Getting hits, something MAJOR LEAGUE hitters arent doing in our lineup.

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They aren't getting hits because the MAJOR LEAGUE hitting coach can't get them out of their slumps.

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What do you know if Robinson is telling them what they are doing wrong and they cant fix it?

 

Robinson can only do so much, hitters should know what they are doing wrong. Like chasing bad pitches, etc.

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Results on the field.

 

If they are MAJOR LEAGUE hitters they should know what to fix when told there is a problem.

 

Example: Alex Gonzalez

 

But you can't fix the problem when the hitting coach can't find the problem.

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Since you brought up Alex Gonzalez, lets talk about him. Who made him hit so good this year?

I also have the feeling but that is not the answer.

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What's the answer then?

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Getting hits, something MAJOR LEAGUE hitters arent doing in our lineup.

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They aren't getting hits because the MAJOR LEAGUE hitting coach can't get them out of their slumps.

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What do you know if Robinson is telling them what they are doing wrong and they cant fix it?

 

Robinson can only do so much, hitters should know what they are doing wrong. Like chasing bad pitches, etc.

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Results on the field.

 

If they are MAJOR LEAGUE hitters they should know what to fix when told there is a problem.

 

Example: Alex Gonzalez

 

But you can't fix the problem when the hitting coach can't find the problem.

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Since you brought up Alex Gonzalez, lets talk about him. Who made him hit so good this year?

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Bill Robinson discovered his flaw. So he had a hand.

 

At this point, his negatives outnumber his positives by a wide margin.

I also have the feeling but that is not the answer.

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What's the answer then?

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Getting hits, something MAJOR LEAGUE hitters arent doing in our lineup.

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They aren't getting hits because the MAJOR LEAGUE hitting coach can't get them out of their slumps.

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What do you know if Robinson is telling them what they are doing wrong and they cant fix it?

 

Robinson can only do so much, hitters should know what they are doing wrong. Like chasing bad pitches, etc.

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Results on the field.

 

If they are MAJOR LEAGUE hitters they should know what to fix when told there is a problem.

 

Example: Alex Gonzalez

 

But you can't fix the problem when the hitting coach can't find the problem.

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Since you brought up Alex Gonzalez, lets talk about him. Who made him hit so good this year?

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Bill Robinson discovered his flaw. So he had a hand.

 

At this point, his negatives outnumber his positives by a wide margin.

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Positives:

 

Cabrera- .335

Delgado- .322

Castillo- .306

Encarnacion- .275(because of expectations and defense)

Gonzalez- .273(because of expectations and defense

 

 

Negatives:

 

Pierre- .252

Lowell- .225

Even if Robinson is to blame, another hitting coach isn't just gonna show up and solve all our problems. Ultimately the players have to take the blame for what has happened to us, and players like Pierre and Lowell should have their jobs in jeopardy for not performing.

A pitching coach can only do so much.

 

I think it's the fans. They don't motivate the Marlins. They just sit there eating. :mad

If the players are to blame, and Robinson has no part in any of this then why the hell do we employ him? Come on, people. His job is to make the offense click. We all know he doesn't swing a bat in the games, but it's still his responsibility. When the offense sucks, it is his job to fix it. If that doesn't happen, he has to go. It's not like this didn't happen last year either. All of you defending him by saying it's all the players' fault, give me a reason why we're employing a hitting coach.

I also have the feeling but that is not the answer.

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What's the answer then?

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Getting hits, something MAJOR LEAGUE hitters arent doing in our lineup.

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They aren't getting hits because the MAJOR LEAGUE hitting coach can't get them out of their slumps.

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What do you know if Robinson is telling them what they are doing wrong and they cant fix it?

 

Robinson can only do so much, hitters should know what they are doing wrong. Like chasing bad pitches, etc.

803185[/snapback]

 

Results on the field.

 

If they are MAJOR LEAGUE hitters they should know what to fix when told there is a problem.

 

Example: Alex Gonzalez

 

But you can't fix the problem when the hitting coach can't find the problem.

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Since you brought up Alex Gonzalez, lets talk about him. Who made him hit so good this year?

803203[/snapback]

 

Bill Robinson discovered his flaw. So he had a hand.

 

At this point, his negatives outnumber his positives by a wide margin.

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Positives:

 

Cabrera- .335

Delgado- .322

Castillo- .306

Encarnacion- .275(because of expectations and defense)

Gonzalez- .273(because of expectations and defense

 

 

Negatives:

 

Pierre- .252

Lowell- .225

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Look at stats in the late innings with RISP and other stats. Someone posted them a few days ago.

 

Delgado, Castillo, and Enc are just doing what they've done their whole careers. It's not a positive or negatives.

If the players are to blame, and Robinson has no part in any of this then why the hell do we employ him? Come on, people. His job is to make the offense click. We all know he doesn't swing a bat in the games, but it's still his responsibility. When the offense sucks, it is his job to fix it. If that doesn't happen, he has to go. It's not like this didn't happen last year either. All of you defending him by saying it's all the players' fault, give me a reason why we're employing a hitting coach.

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I didn't say it wasn't his fault, but the act of firing him is not going to solve our hitting problems. That's all I'm saying.

I also have the feeling but that is not the answer.

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What's the answer then?

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Getting hits, something MAJOR LEAGUE hitters arent doing in our lineup.

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They aren't getting hits because the MAJOR LEAGUE hitting coach can't get them out of their slumps.

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What do you know if Robinson is telling them what they are doing wrong and they cant fix it?

 

Robinson can only do so much, hitters should know what they are doing wrong. Like chasing bad pitches, etc.

803185[/snapback]

 

Results on the field.

 

If they are MAJOR LEAGUE hitters they should know what to fix when told there is a problem.

 

Example: Alex Gonzalez

 

But you can't fix the problem when the hitting coach can't find the problem.

803199[/snapback]

 

Since you brought up Alex Gonzalez, lets talk about him. Who made him hit so good this year?

803203[/snapback]

 

Bill Robinson discovered his flaw. So he had a hand.

 

At this point, his negatives outnumber his positives by a wide margin.

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Positives:

 

Cabrera- .335

Delgado- .322

Castillo- .306

Encarnacion- .275(because of expectations and defense)

Gonzalez- .273(because of expectations and defense

 

 

Negatives:

 

Pierre- .252

Lowell- .225

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Look at stats in the late innings with RISP and other stats. Someone posted them a few days ago.

 

Delgado, Castillo, and Enc are just doing what they've done their whole careers. It's not a positive or negatives.

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O, ok. So basically what you're saying is that since everyone in our lineup has hit their whole career except for Gonzalez and Encarnacion, Bill Robinson can only get criticism for the rest of our lineup if they don't perform. And if they do perform, he gets no credit.

 

Well I got news for you: Your view is retarded.

If the players are to blame, and Robinson has no part in any of this then why the hell do we employ him?? Come on, people.? His job is to make the offense click.? We all know he doesn't swing a bat in the games, but it's still his responsibility.? When the offense sucks, it is his job to fix it.? If that doesn't happen, he has to go.? It's not like this didn't happen last year either.? All of you defending him by saying it's all the players' fault, give me a reason why we're employing a hitting coach.

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I didn't say it wasn't his fault, but the act of firing him is not going to solve our hitting problems. That's all I'm saying.

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I agree with you there. This is to the point where a bandaid won't fix it. Robinson needs to go, some players need to moved, some of the guys on the bench and in the minors need to be starting for a while.

A pitching coach can only do so much.

 

I think it's the fans. They don't motivate the Marlins. They just sit there eating. :mad

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making you aware that you said pitching coach insteada hitting coach before people make wise ass comments about it even though we know waht you meant.

Look at stats in the late innings with RISP and other stats. Someone posted them a few days ago.

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RISP AVG

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/stats/byteam?c...n_2005&sort=722

TB leads the league. Marlins are in the middle better than team like the Mets, Braves, D'Backs, Yankees, Jays, Pads, Texas. Worse than Phils, Sox (of both kinds), Cards, Twins.

 

2 out RISP AVG

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/stats/byteam?c...n_2005&sort=722

Rockies lead this stats. Once again the Marlins are towards the middle of the pack. Better than a number of winning teams, worse than some. BTW the DiamondBacks are dead last in this category, and were low in RISP AVG too yet they find ways to win.

 

Basesloaded AVG

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/stats/byteam?c...n_2005&sort=722

Right towards the top #6

 

7+ Inning AVG

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/stats/byteam?c...n_2005&sort=722

Lead the league

 

Just because you hit good in these situations doesn't mean you are good, and winning teams have some pretty bad situational hitting.

Look at stats in the late innings with RISP and other stats. Someone posted them a few days ago.

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RISP AVG

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/stats/byteam?c...n_2005&sort=722

TB leads the league. Marlins are in the middle better than team like the Mets, Braves, D'Backs, Yankees, Jays, Pads, Texas. Worse than Phils, Sox (of both kinds), Cards, Twins.

 

2 out RISP AVG

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/stats/byteam?c...n_2005&sort=722

Rockies lead this stats. Once again the Marlins are towards the middle of the pack. Better than a number of winning teams, worse than some. BTW the DiamondBacks are dead last in this category, and were low in RISP AVG too yet they find ways to win.

 

Basesloaded AVG

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/stats/byteam?c...n_2005&sort=722

Right towards the top #6

 

7+ Inning AVG

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/stats/byteam?c...n_2005&sort=722

Lead the league

 

Just because you hit good in these situations doesn't mean you are good, and winning teams have some pretty bad situational hitting.

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Now look at runs totals in those same situations.

 

Look at runs overall, 22nd overall. The only team below us in runs that is actually any good are the Nats.

That's baseball for you. We aren't getting the balls to drop right now. We put the ball into play eventually they will stop finding people. Only 6 teams have stuck out less than us. Only 2 teams have less GIDP than us. Those are other important hitting numbers if you ask me and we are sitting pretty good in both of those categories. We are also in the top third of teams for making the pitcher work per at bat. We are also 6th in the league in pinch hits and pinch hitting average. Bill has done good work with those guys. True we are having trouble scoring runs but in so many other categories we aren't doing that bad you have to assume that the runs will pick up.

That's baseball for you. We aren't getting the balls to drop right now. We put the ball into play eventually they will stop finding people. Only 6 teams have stuck out less than us. Only 2 teams have less GIDP than us. Those are other important hitting numbers if you ask me and we are sitting pretty good in both of those categories. We are also in the top third of teams for making the pitcher work per at bat. We are also 6th in the league in pinch hits and pinch hitting average. Bill has done good work with those guys. True we are having trouble scoring runs but in so many other categories we aren't doing that bad you have to assume that the runs will pick up.

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We are alittle more than 1/3 of the way done with the season. I'm not waiting another year for "the hits to start falling in".

 

It's time for a change.

I bet Robinson have his job tomorrow

A pitching coach can only do so much.

 

I think it's the fans. They don't motivate the Marlins. They just sit there eating.? :mad

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making you aware that you said pitching coach insteada hitting coach before people make wise ass comments about it even though we know waht you meant.

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:o

 

Thanks. It's late.

That's baseball for you. We aren't getting the balls to drop right now. We put the ball into play eventually they will stop finding people. Only 6 teams have stuck out less than us. Only 2 teams have less GIDP than us. Those are other important hitting numbers if you ask me and we are sitting pretty good in both of those categories. We are also in the top third of teams for making the pitcher work per at bat. We are also 6th in the league in pinch hits and pinch hitting average. Bill has done good work with those guys. True we are having trouble scoring runs but in so many other categories we aren't doing that bad you have to assume that the runs will pick up.

This time last season, people were saying things almost exactly to this effect.

This should've been done last night.

 

FO could make brilliant moves, but for some things they really look dumb.

To: Anyone in support of firing Bill Robinson.

From: [i LiVE FOR BiLL ROBiNSON'S FiRing] campaign HQ.

 

I ask anyone who is in support of firing Bill Robinson to put the image below created by TSwift in their avatars or sigs.

 

 

 

:mischief

To: Anyone in support of firing Bill Robinson.

From: [i LiVE FOR BiLL ROBiNSON'S FiRing] campaign HQ.

 

I ask anyone who is in support of firing Bill Robinson to put the image below created by TSwift in their avatars or sigs.

 

 

 

:mischief

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you got it.