July 25, 200521 yr The reason Contreras would not get dealt is because, in the eyes of the ChiSox, Macarthy is MLB ready.
July 25, 200521 yr If contreras isnt dealt as well then most likely they might include anderson. If they include anderson I would like that. Anyone wonder if perhaps they were trying to free up lowell's salary before to pick up Vasquez? We were hunting for him before the year. Plus he has the right to demand a trade to the east coast. Plus he loves miami. It all sorta fits you know? Flipped them Penn and someone for him perhaps?
July 25, 200521 yr Author I dont think we going to move Burnett. He has already stated that he "prefers" to stay with the Marlins. I would not be surprised if the Marlins make him a good offer to stay, maybe a 3year $24million contract. Plus, we get Beckett back(which I think they are more inclined to trade, secretly), and with Willis, we only have to worry about the back of our pitcher lineup. Who knows maybe we'll keep Valdez, for really cheap after this year. That leaves a 5spot available (Vargas,Johnson,Olsen,free agent?). It will be less worrisome for the front management b/c they know what they can get from those guys, guaranteed everytime they go pitch. We have a abundance of pitchers in the minors. WE DONT NEED anymore. I mean come'on, didnt we just draft 5 in the first two rounds in the draft, and three or four in last years. So what are we going to use them for, trade bait for more pitchers. We need to get a bullpen help, but not at the cost of a "GOOD" starter. Burnett DOES NOT want to be traded, LOOK at the way he has pitched as of late. Kind of like telling the Marlins "look at what your losing, make me an offer". The Marlins earlier said "we can't afford him", but what if they are working on a contract quietly, and that is why, this is getting prolonged? Could be. Read in between the lines. Remember the Mark Kotsay deal in Oakland. Oakland said the same thing"we are playing bad, and we might not be able to keep him". The Marlins are in the same boat. Think about it. I think we could keep someone in the bullpen. Starters: Beckett Burnett Willis Valdez(b/c of experience) Vargas/Olsen Bullpen T.Jones Alfonseca Olsen/Vargas(to get some experience under there belt, for next year?) Mota Mecir Perisho ( I dont know if im missing anyone) Bump? Reidling? Resop? I also think they MIGHT BE, going for a BIG outfield BAT.... Klesko?Nevin? Giles? (they may want one of our mid-level prospects) Jason Lane(from Houston), but they are all in the playoff hunt...Lance Neikro or Micheal Tucker(San Fran),Milton Bradely (Dodgers), etc, and in the AL David Delluci( who the Marlins wanted BAD two years ago, and I think is in a contract year, and would give room for Hermidia), Crawford, Huff, Hollins(Tampa, and could use young Pitching, and might pickup Lowells contract)or Ibanez (Mariner), they are not TOO expensive, and I think most are in contract years, and all could provide some pop off the bat, experience (if they call up Hermidia), and all of those teams are hungry for prospect pitchers....Think about it... 873984[/snapback] obviously burnett doesnt want to be traded, he has been here a while and knows all the guys, but he has stated he wants to test the FA market, and you know there will be teams (yankees, Orioles, red sox) that will offer him more money than we can. I rather trade him and get a good deal for him, than lose him for a draft pick
July 25, 200521 yr obviously burnett doesnt want to be traded, he has been here a while and knows all the guys, but he has stated he wants to test the FA market, and you know there will be teams (yankees, Orioles, red sox) that will offer him more money than we can. I rather trade him and get a good deal for him, than lose him for a draft pick 874086[/snapback] Totally agree, get something for him now opposed to nothing later.
July 25, 200521 yr burnett made it apparent at the beginning of the year that he could not wait until the end of the year. he wants to be wined and dined like his pav was. i was upset at his comments from the beginning of the year. not something you want to say before you season started. this all leans on him.
July 25, 200521 yr One has to wonder if that 'maybe Contreras' is included on the possibility Lowell and his contract might be traded. Do you risk another week and hope this offer does not go away or AJ doesn't perform terribly or get hurt? Depends on the possibility Brian Anderson might be included in addition or in place of one of these players.
July 25, 200521 yr obviously burnett doesnt want to be traded, he has been here a while and knows all the guys, but he has stated he wants to test the FA market, and you know there will be teams (yankees, Orioles, red sox) that will offer him more money than we can. I rather trade him and get a good deal for him, than lose him for a draft pick 874086[/snapback] I think he'll miss his teammates just as he did when Pavano left, but I doubt he'll miss the management and coaches, the fans or the town.
July 25, 200521 yr do it... or try and get one of their OF spects 873994[/snapback] you read my mind ramp(nice name ) included Anderson... take it and run...but I'm sure the Marlins would have to add something like a Josh Wilson or Eric Reed
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