Well, after reading about the Luis Castillo debacle this morning, I found myself emotionally drained following this tumutlous two week roller coaster. I've been watching and hearing about the progression of the team's downfall, but it didn't fully register until now. I felt saddened by Beckett and Lowell's departure. I was upset and frustrated when Delgado was traded. I accepted that Gonzalez and Encarnacion would not be resigned.

 

But this is the final straw.

 

Trading Castillo really opened my eyes to what is happening to the Fish. Reality has finally set in, and the recent turn of events is taking its toll on my perspective as a sports fan. I have felt the depths of grief and despair; I have known pain and suffering beyond the physical realm of being; I have witnessed life, death and all that happens in between--but for some reason, this sequence of actions hurts the most.

 

It isn't inexplicable, nor is it unexpected. We have known about the stadium issues for years, and we have done nothing. I'm not putting blame squarely on the constituents of South Florida, but they deserve a fair share. Marlin ownership also made some mistakes that can't be overlooked. I don't even know who really is at fault, but that's not the point. After defending my neighboring citizens for the past few years, I'm done. Literally, done. I don't care what happens to this team, and I don't care about its future.

 

I'm not sure how I'll recover from this latest stroke of doom, and I can't recall a time that I've ever felt so helpless and obsolete. I make jokes from time to time; I tend to be sarcastic and cynical--at this moment, however, I am completely sincere.

 

Although many of you may think I'm overreacting, and a lot of you will downplay my thoughts, I am truly broken at this point. The Marlins have been one of the biggest aspects of my life, and for the second time in my 20 years, I've been deceived. I don't know where to go from here. I may continue rooting for the Marlins as long as they remain in South Florida...but everything has changed and will continue to do so for the forseeable future.

 

-LP

Trading Louie also opened my eyes to what is going on...

 

His trade is the first one that actually had me completely bummed out...

The Castillo trade has me frustrated as well..

 

The Beckett/Lowell trade wasen't that bad to me- Hanley kind of eased the pain.

 

The Delgado trade wasen't that bad to me- Mike Jacobs eased the pain..

 

This Castillo trade just makes me sick.

I agree man....Luis was always the guy I could count on to be in a Marlins jersey for life...Now that cannot happen. I can't envision a 2B without him being there. There was no need for this trade...no need to deal Lo Duca or Pierre when the time comes too...If they don't care about this team....Why should any of us??? I was a Twins fan in college and with Luis going there, it only gets better. I'm not leaving the marlins bandwagon but one foot is off with the other potentially coming when JP is dealt.

The Castillo trade has me frustrated as well..

 

The Beckett/Lowell trade wasen't that bad to me- Hanley kind of eased the pain.

 

The Delgado trade wasen't that bad to me- Mike Jacobs eased the pain..

 

This Castillo trade just makes me sick.

 

 

Unless this Bowyer guy turns into out 9th inning man of the future...young closers are amazing!

This is a difficult trade for all of us, except Marlins2003. It really stings. :crying I hate Loria and Samson.

I'm broken too. I said after the Beckett trade that if Castillo went in the same offseason, I'd do some soul searching with the team.

 

As far as I'm concerned, the FO are spineless lying SOB's, and they can all go to hell. They're worse than Huizenga and his pals, and worse than Henry. They have done more to destroy this franchise in the past 3 weeks than they did to build them up in the past 3 years...whenever anything went wrong, they blamed the venue and the consumer, not once did I ever hear anyone in the F.O. say "my fault."

 

I do care about the future of the team, because I want it to be in South Florida. I don't think ownership cares where they are, as long as they're playing in a stadium built with someone else's dollar.

 

I will say this, if you have the slightest hope of future for baseball in South Florida, you will care. Giving in to this defeatist attitude simply means that Loria gets a mandate to get the hell out of Miami, and in the end, the fans lose.

This is why we need a true local owner. A carpetbagger from New York won't give a damn about moving the team from Miami to Las Vegas - he just wants the cash. An owner that grew up in or currently lives in Hialeah, Coral Gables, Ft. Lauderdale, or West Palm Beach (or anywhere in the general area) would have a harder time moving the team. This bastard doesn't give a damn. He'll move the team if he wants to. You think he cares about us? Nope. a**hole.

Yeah it sure looks bad but sports a played on paper lets try it out 4 a year n see wat happens excally!?!

stay strong and support the Fish.

 

Hopefully we can wether this storm and the Fish shall remain in South Florida. Let's not make this an US vs THEM battle.

 

Owners and players come and go, but memories and your love for the team and game should wistand the test of time and hard moments

OK, I have to say it.. this is getting a bit creepy... Now, don't get me wrong.. I was very upset after hearing every trade. I agree that the Castillo trade is the one that probably hurt the most, but all of these trades have sucked.. The Marlins have been down here since I was 15, and I've been a die hard fan ever since.

 

However, having said that.. this is just baseball. I'm usually the one hearing that from my friends and family, because they think I have this unhealthy obsession with the game.. but I can't believe some of the stuff I'm reading. To go and say that this is bringing you down to the point where you're comparing it to actual life and death situations is taking things a bit too far.

 

Maybe I'm saying this cause I still have my Giants to fall back on, but I think some people on this board need to take a week off of reading anything about baseball.. and start worrying about important things... real life things....

 

Again, I'm not trying to knock anybody, but I feel bad for some of you that are sincerely feeling so down and depressed. This is just a game. Luis Castillo will continue playing the game he loves for an amount of money that most of us here will never even see. He's not that heart broken.. trust me. As for our current Marlins, I'll continue to support them regardless of how bad they are. I'm just thankful that we have a Major League team to support. And I'm kinda excited to see guys like Mike Jacobs, Hanley Ramirez, and even Tyler Bowyer now....

OK, I have to say it.. this is getting a bit creepy... Now, don't get me wrong.. I was very upset after hearing every trade. I agree that the Castillo trade is the one that probably hurt the most, but all of these trades have sucked.. The Marlins have been down here since I was 15, and I've been a die hard fan ever since.

 

However, having said that.. this is just baseball. I'm usually the one hearing that from my friends and family, because they think I have this unhealthy obsession with the game.. but I can't believe some of the stuff I'm reading. To go and say that this is bringing you down to the point where you're comparing it to actual life and death situations is taking things a bit too far.

When people are bummed out they sometimes write things in a way that shouldn't be taken so literally. Often in a face to face conversation this is obvious. On a message board maybe not as obvious. I remember on occasion watching a game and seeing the bullpen blow it for Dontrelle and saying something like "somebody please shoot me!" Thankfully, the people around me didn't take it literally. It's really not that different.

OK, I have to say it.. this is getting a bit creepy... Now, don't get me wrong.. I was very upset after hearing every trade. I agree that the Castillo trade is the one that probably hurt the most, but all of these trades have sucked.. The Marlins have been down here since I was 15, and I've been a die hard fan ever since.

 

However, having said that.. this is just baseball. I'm usually the one hearing that from my friends and family, because they think I have this unhealthy obsession with the game.. but I can't believe some of the stuff I'm reading. To go and say that this is bringing you down to the point where you're comparing it to actual life and death situations is taking things a bit too far.

 

Maybe I'm saying this cause I still have my Giants to fall back on, but I think some people on this board need to take a week off of reading anything about baseball.. and start worrying about important things... real life things....

 

Again, I'm not trying to knock anybody, but I feel bad for some of you that are sincerely feeling so down and depressed. This is just a game. Luis Castillo will continue playing the game he loves for an amount of money that most of us here will never even see. He's not that heart broken.. trust me. As for our current Marlins, I'll continue to support them regardless of how bad they are. I'm just thankful that we have a Major League team to support. And I'm kinda excited to see guys like Mike Jacobs, Hanley Ramirez, and even Tyler Bowyer now....

 

Eh...I would direct you toward Fever Pitch (even though it sucked) and many other movies that highlight fan's obsessions with sports team. The one constant in my life since 1993 HAS BEEN THE FLORIDA MARLINS. If I was pissed off, I could watch the Marlins. If I was lonely, I could watch the Marlins. When I was in boarding school, away from my friends and family, I could still watch the Marlins. When I am in college, still away from friends and family, even though I have a good time, the Marlins are there.

 

I could care less if Castillo is heart broken or not. And it's not just about Castillo. It's about the fate of this team in general. I've spent countless hours watching games, reading news, talking sports, etc...Seriously dedicating time to this team in a way that I can't even begin to describe. Many people on these forums share the same feelings. You have to understand that there is a difference betwen being a fan and begin a fanatic.

 

Marlins Giants, you obviously don't share the same bond that I and many other Fish fans do, so I can't judge you for your comments. BUt please understand that many of the people on these forums are, indeed, the die hard fans that you only see in movies or hear about in quirky news stories. Sorry if I take the demise of my favorite sports team so harshly, but I don't know how else to react. It hurts.

If we start going to games with signs that say "Death to David Samson" we cant get in trouble can we?

Marlins Giants, you obviously don't share the same bond that I and many other Fish fans do, so I can't judge you for your comments. BUt please understand that many of the people on these forums are, indeed, the die hard fans that you only see in movies or hear about in quirky news stories. Sorry if I take the demise of my favorite sports team so harshly, but I don't know how else to react. It hurts.

 

 

Dude - Trust me, I know what you're saying. My wife swears she lives the life of Drew Barrymore in Fever Pitch. My house is full of Marlins and Giants stuff everywhere. We just had our first kid 4 months ago (a little boy), and all I thought about was taking him to Marlins games. He has more baseball clothes than anything else. That's what bums me out about this... Losing players and losing in general really sucks.. My main concern is losing the team. I want to be able to take my son to Marlins games for years to come. however, I realize it's just a game and a business. It's taken years for me to realize this, but that's all it is.. Back in the day, when I was younger, people knew how the Marlins and Giants were doing just by looking at me, cause I'd walk around depressed when they were doing bad. I still get pissed off, to this day, when I see Steve Finley hit a grand slam to eliminate the Giants from the playoffs (never forget that one), and I still get pissed when hurricanes force a Marlins team doing great, to play more games than the remaining days allow, knocking them out of the postseason. And believe me, these trades make me sick to my stomach..

 

But all I'm saying is be thankful we still have a team.. Hope and pray for the best. And don't get so down on something you have no control over.. I love the fact that everyone here is so loyal to the Marlins. It's the reason I'm a member of this board. We have to be the best damn baseball fans in the world... Just understand it's only a game... unfortunately, more of a business these days.. and just take things as they come man... If LoDuca goes next.. oh well, all we can start thinking about is who's gonna be our next catcher and accept it....

I was completely numb to the earlier trades, and I was almost disturbed by this phenomenon. It was like I really didn't care. My friends around me were all getting angry, talking about switching allegiances to other baseball teams and what-not. I was just like whatever.

 

The Castillo trade woke me up. I'm a little angry now, as evidenced by my sudden desire to sue the Marlins for the return of my season ticket deposits. This trade went beyond what was necessary. They talked about getting the payroll down to a level that was equal to revenues. Well, they were basically already there. Now it feels like they're doing this just to stick it to us. Meanwhile, the only people who really give a sh*t were the people that were with them all along. Everyone who was against them is now smugly nodding and saying, "See? I told you so."

 

I feel like a man without a baseball team.

Marlins Giants, you obviously don't share the same bond that I and many other Fish fans do, so I can't judge you for your comments. BUt please understand that many of the people on these forums are, indeed, the die hard fans that you only see in movies or hear about in quirky news stories. Sorry if I take the demise of my favorite sports team so harshly, but I don't know how else to react. It hurts.

 

 

Dude - Trust me, I know what you're saying. My wife swears she lives the life of Drew Barrymore in Fever Pitch. My house is full of Marlins and Giants stuff everywhere. We just had our first kid 4 months ago (a little boy), and all I thought about was taking him to Marlins games. He has more baseball clothes than anything else. That's what bums me out about this... Losing players and losing in general really sucks.. My main concern is losing the team. I want to be able to take my son to Marlins games for years to come. however, I realize it's just a game and a business. It's taken years for me to realize this, but that's all it is.. Back in the day, when I was younger, people knew how the Marlins and Giants were doing just by looking at me, cause I'd walk around depressed when they were doing bad. I still get pissed off, to this day, when I see Steve Finley hit a grand slam to eliminate the Giants from the playoffs (never forget that one), and I still get pissed when hurricanes force a Marlins team doing great, to play more games than the remaining days allow, knocking them out of the postseason. And believe me, these trades make me sick to my stomach..

 

But all I'm saying is be thankful we still have a team.. Hope and pray for the best. And don't get so down on something you have no control over.. I love the fact that everyone here is so loyal to the Marlins. It's the reason I'm a member of this board. We have to be the best damn baseball fans in the world... Just understand it's only a game... unfortunately, more of a business these days.. and just take things as they come man... If LoDuca goes next.. oh well, all we can start thinking about is who's gonna be our next catcher and accept it....

There is no doubt in my mind that I'll get over this frustration. Everything is healed with the passing of time. But for right now, I can't help but feel depressed about the situation. It might be my age, and the naivity that accompanies it, or I may be overexaggerating, but I can't stop myself from feeling that way.

If we start going to games with signs that say "Death to David Samson" we cant get in trouble can we?

 

 

 

LOL :lol Probably not. I don't think it's a real threat, so I doubt anything would happen. But you never know - hey may call the cops on you.

I don't understand why Beinfest accepted that offer for an incredibly talented player.

 

 

But if you don't care any more, why are you here?

Damn. I figured after LeftyPower/LeftyCastillo's intuition on the future of Louey Castillo, Louey would be saved from the ravages of the firesale. Anyhow, Louey was my favorite player, and I'll miss watching him everyday. I'm still a Marlins fan and always will follow the club despite what city they reside in. Farewell fairweather lefty.

Damn. I figured after LeftyPower/LeftyCastillo's intuition on the future of Louey Castillo, Louey would be saved from the ravages of the firesale. Anyhow, Louey was my favorite player, and I'll miss watching him everyday. I'm still a Marlins fan and always will follow the club despite what city they reside in. Farewell fairweather lefty.

 

Hm...That's a rather stereotypical title to be throwing around, my friend. Methinks you have harvested ill-will toward me for the past few weeks, and you decided to single me out in this post. I don't see you replying to any of the other 'misguided' threads...?

 

Oh but don't you worry, I know better than to let a cool, cyber-suave guy like you get me upset :thumbup

whatever dood :lol

whatever dood :lol

 

You are too funny :lol

 

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