You would think it would benefit MLB to have a mega wealthy owner and one who could make it happen here. I know it's a dream because Loria won't sell. If it's true that Cisneros really wants to buy the team then it's really sad to think what could have been our future.

 

 

In fact the opposite is true.

 

If you allow municipalities to pick who owns a MLB franchise by squeezing the life out of the current owner and demanding he sell to some politically connected insider of the city's choosing, the other owners of MLB franchises will look around the room and wonder when it will happen to them.

 

Not a chance MLB doess anything but back Loria 100%.

 

I will not be held hostage by an owner that wants everything done for him so that he can reap the rewards.

 

 

Then please go away.

"Gustavo Cisneros Stadium" .... I like the sound of that.

 

Or

 

Gustavo Cisneros Field at Univision Stadium

In fact the opposite is true.

 

If you allow municipalities to pick who owns a MLB franchise by squeezing the life out of the current owner and demanding he sell to some politically connected insider of the city's choosing, the other owners of MLB franchises will look around the room and wonder when it will happen to them.

 

Not a chance MLB doess anything but back Loria 100%.

 

Cisneros is not just some politically connected insider. He's actually someone who could seriously make it work here and stabilize the franchise. The Marlins' history and Loria's history are pretty unique and not really comparable to other franchises. We're talking about a team that has never had any stability and it would be Loria's second failed attempt.

 

I do agree with you that there's no chance it will happen.

Cisneros is not just some politically connected insider.

 

 

I'd like you reconsider that notion... Ariolla's been doing his bidding for over a year.

I'd like you reconsider that notion... Ariolla's been doing his bidding for over a year.

 

I said "not just"

I'd like you reconsider that notion... Ariolla's been doing his bidding for over a year.

 

I said "not just"

 

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i actually like this idea. yeah, loria won't sell. i think he should just to give the marlins an owner w/ deeper pockets that can build a stadium and field a team Loria can't do both. He doesnt have the money for it.

 

Lets say this guy buys the team (hypothetically), would you be happy w/ having another Yankess/Red Sox organization in south florida? An organization that just pays out of their a$$ for players? and maybe jacks up ticket prices in the meantime?

i actually like this idea. yeah, loria won't sell. i think he should just to give the marlins an owner w/ deeper pockets that can build a stadium and field a team Loria can't do both. He doesnt have the money for it.

 

Lets say this guy buys the team (hypothetically), would you be happy w/ having another Yankess/Red Sox organization in south florida? An organization that just pays out of their a$$ for players? and maybe jacks up ticket prices in the meantime?

 

 

Who wouldn't?

 

Good players+fans+higher ticket prices> AAA Players+no fans+higher(than last year) ticket prices

This thread is ridiculous. I don't know Cisneros, but if he reads this thread he'll run away from this deal as fast as he can.

 

What the heck does it mean to say Loria doesn't have enough money to own the team??? The house analogy is absurd; your house isn't a business. Look at it as if you bought the neighborhood coffee shop instead. If you could pay the price to buy the shop, by defintion, you have enough money to be an owner. If the business can't make enough money to pay its bills, the problem isn't your pocketbook, the problem is with the business. You will either have to cut costs (use cheaper coffee, hire fewer servers, etc.) or find a way to increase revenues (more advertising, raise prices, etc.) Bringing in someone richer doesn't do anything for you, unless he is dumb enough to want to lose money every year and make it up out of his own pocket. Microeconomics 101 folks.

 

So this whole discussion is futile unless a) Cisneros wants to lose money owning a baseball team just to keep us diehard fans happy, or b) Cisneros has some magic formula for increasing the revenues. IMO, it's all a pipe dream, and we willl lose the Marlins to another city, where revenus will be higher.

Can we contact this guy?

This thread is ridiculous. I don't know Cisneros, but if he reads this thread he'll run away from this deal as fast as he can.

 

What the heck does it mean to say Loria doesn't have enough money to own the team??? The house analogy is absurd; your house isn't a business. Look at it as if you bought the neighborhood coffee shop instead. If you could pay the price to buy the shop, by defintion, you have enough money to be an owner. If the business can't make enough money to pay its bills, the problem isn't your pocketbook, the problem is with the business. You will either have to cut costs (use cheaper coffee, hire fewer servers, etc.) or find a way to increase revenues (more advertising, raise prices, etc.) Bringing in someone richer doesn't do anything for you, unless he is dumb enough to want to lose money every year and make it up out of his own pocket. Microeconomics 101 folks.

 

So this whole discussion is futile unless a) Cisneros wants to lose money owning a baseball team just to keep us diehard fans happy, or b) Cisneros has some magic formula for increasing the revenues. IMO, it's all a pipe dream, and we willl lose the Marlins to another city, where revenus will be higher.

 

It's futile because Loria is not selling.

 

No, just being richer doesn't cut it. As for a magic formula, yeah, Cisneros just might have it although I wouldn't call it magic. He has plenty of money, is well-connected, a brilliant and highly successful businessman who knows his markets and surrounds himself with the right people. And, oh yeah, he wouldn't have David Samson.

 

My former boss was not too long ago involved in high level negotiations between a very large international corporation and one of Cisnero's businesses (not one of the media related companies) and, believe me, this guy's people know how to deal.

 

Sadly, this isn't gonna happen.