Posted April 30, 200618 yr http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2427730 Lions might deal QB Harrington to Browns for pick By John Clayton ESPN.com After four difficult seasons in Detroit, quarterback Joey Harrington felt he found a safe landing place by agreeing to be traded to the Miami Dolphins and working out a financial deal. That ride might get tougher Sunday. The Lions failed to convince him this week to readjust his contract for a trade with the Chiefs or the Browns, so on Sunday morning, they plan to get tough. They are considering trading him to the Browns for a fourth- or fifth-round choice, and if he refuses to go, they are threatening to challenge his agreement with the Dolphins. Harrington visited the Dolphins and the Bengals after the Lions gave him permission to shop himself with a trade. He canceled a visit to the Broncos and decided to go to the Dolphins. Harrington and the Dolphins worked out a two-year agreement that would facilitate the trade. Because he has a $4.45 million salary and a $4 million roster bonus due around June 15, Harrington needs to restructure his contract before any trade. Although Lions president Matt Millen told Harrington he would let him go where the quarterback wanted, the Lions don't want to trade him for the sixth-round choice in 2007 being offered by the Dolphins. The Lions prefer a draft choice Sunday. A trade could be tricky with the Browns, who have seven second day draft choices. One possibility would be to make a trade with Cleveland that is contingent on Harrington reworking his deal with the Browns, and if he couldn't, he could be traded back to the Lions. The Dolphins' position is that Harrington wants to join their team. The Lions' position is that the collective bargaining agreement doesn't permit a secret deal and might go to the NFL Management Council for help. The market for Harrington in a trade diminished when the Broncos drafted Jay Cutler and the Chiefs drafted Brodie Croyle, leaving the Browns as one of the few options for the Lions aside from Miami. For Harrington, it means his exit from Detroit could become as difficult as his four-year stay.
April 30, 200618 yr So Basically what the Lions are saying is that the Browns are the NFL's version of Hell.
April 30, 200618 yr So Basically what the Lions are saying is that the Browns are the NFL's version of Hell. :lol
April 30, 200618 yr Lions gave him permission to shop himself with a trade. The Lions' position is that the collective bargaining agreement doesn't permit a secret deal Am I missing something here? :plain
April 30, 200618 yr Browns | Team rejects trade for Harrington Sun, 30 Apr 2006 11:58:35 -0700 John Clayton, of ESPN.com, reports the Cleveland Browns have rejected a trade for Detroit Lions QB Joey Harrington. The Lions told David Dunn, Harrington's agent, that the team was going to try to trade him to the Browns. When the Browns called Harrington, the quarterback told them he did not want to come to Cleveland.
April 30, 200618 yr I swear the Ford family might be the only group of people that got any love left for Matt Millen. i might even question the Millens themselves.
May 1, 200618 yr the clayton article: Browns pass on trade with Lions for QB Harrington John Clayton The Lions handled the Joey Harrington situation like a game of poker Sunday. Detroit told Harrington's agent, David Dunn, that they were going to try to trade him to Cleveland. The Browns called Harrington and the quarterback told them that he didn't want to come to Cleveland. So what did the Browns do? They kept drafting and didn't make a trade. They took four players -- linebacker Leon Williams, guard Isaac Sowells, halfback Jerome Harrison and cornerback DeMario Minter, leaving them only sixth and seventh round picks to move. The Lions' threat so far hasn't worked as Harrington continues to plan to go to the Dolphins. Now, the Dolphins are considering not giving the Lions a sixth-round pick in 2007 and just waiting for him to be released in June. Harrington visited the Dolphins and the Bengals after the Lions gave him permission to shop himself with a trade. He canceled a visit to the Broncos and decided to go to the Dolphins. Harrington and the Dolphins worked out a two-year agreement that would facilitate the trade. Because he has a $4.45 million salary and a $4 million roster bonus due around June 15, Harrington needs to restructure his contract before any trade. Although Lions president Matt Millen told Harrington he would let him go where the quarterback wanted, the Lions don't want to trade him for the sixth-round choice in 2007 being offered by the Dolphins. The Lions prefer a draft choice Sunday. The Dolphins' position is that Harrington wants to join their team. The Lions' position is that the collective bargaining agreement doesn't permit a secret deal and might go to the NFL Management Council for help. The market for Harrington in a trade diminished when the Broncos drafted Jay Cutler and the Chiefs drafted Brodie Croyle, leaving the Browns as one of the few options for the Lions aside from Miami. http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?id=24277...headlines&ft=ss
May 1, 200618 yr For the record, the fact that Joey wants to go backup Daunte Culpepper more than having a chance to win the job in Cleveland says a lot about him. And not in a good way.
May 1, 200618 yr For the record, the fact that Joey wants to go backup Daunte Culpepper more than having a chance to win the job in Cleveland says a lot about him. And not in a good way. I think he believes he can start for a while in Miami and show his wort there. Plus Miami is closer to a winning team and saban impressed him alot. But I agree personally, I think he has a better shot to get a starting gig in cleveland, even with how high they are on frye
May 1, 200618 yr For the record, the fact that Joey wants to go backup Daunte Culpepper more than having a chance to win the job in Cleveland says a lot about him. And not in a good way. it's a two year deal. he will get a chance to start at least the first two weeks of the year, best case scenario for him he will be able to start the first four. and culpepper will get hurt again sometime between then and the end of next year, so he will see more time. but this will also give joey the chance to learn from a better qb and a lot of guys seem to want to play for saban right now. playing as a backup in miami takes the pressure off and in cleveland he'll be replaced in a year or two anyway now.
May 1, 200618 yr ^_^ )-->QUOTE( ^_^ @ Apr 30 2006, 10:41 PM) 1130354[/snapback] For the record, the fact that Joey wants to go backup Daunte Culpepper more than having a chance to win the job in Cleveland says a lot about him. And not in a good way. it's a two year deal. he will get a chance to start at least the first two weeks of the year, best case scenario for him he will be able to start the first four. and culpepper will get hurt again sometime between then and the end of next year, so he will see more time. but this will also give joey the chance to learn from a better qb and a lot of guys seem to want to play for saban right now. playing as a backup in miami takes the pressure off and in cleveland he'll be replaced in a year or two anyway now. If Miami gets Harrington, it's safe to say that the Fins will basically force Pepper to rest. No sense risking an injury early on when you have a capable backup.
May 1, 200618 yr ^_^ )-->QUOTE( ^_^ @ Apr 30 2006, 10:41 PM) 1130354[/snapback] playing as a backup in miami takes the pressure off Exactly my point.
May 2, 200618 yr it'd suk if he ended up going somewhere else. i expect him to be in a dolphins uni .
May 2, 200618 yr Exactly my point. not everyone, especially qbs perform immediately and they need time to develop. joey was thrown into the fire and now he wants to be put on the back burner for a while, yet you blame him for that. qbs who developed over time while not in a high pressure situation: hasselback green warner palmer was given a whole year to develop etc. joey has realized he needs more time to develop and you fault him for it. he was thrown right into the fire when he came out and joined the lions, which isn't exactly the best situation to be part of.
May 2, 200618 yr millen is such a tool. LOL this is too good to be true DOLPHINS NOTEBOOK NFL: Miami OK in talking to Lions QB BY JASON COLE [email protected] The NFL said the Dolphins were within their rights to discuss contract terms with quarterback Joey Harrington once Detroit gave Harrington permission to seek a trade. That comes in response to complaints by Lions president Matt Millen that the Dolphins went outside the boundaries of the collective bargaining agreement in working out the parameters of a two-year deal. However, it appears Millen was mistaken. ''Yes, a player is allowed to talk about a contract with another team in that situation,'' league spokesman Greg Aiello said after asking the NFL Management Council for clarification. Millen's comments came Sunday after a possible trade of Harrington to Cleveland didn't materialize because Harrington refused to restructure his contract. On April 20, Harrington publicly said he was looking forward to playing for the Dolphins, an indication he has no intention of reworking his contract for another team. Harrington has a $4 million roster bonus due June 15 to go with his base salary. Millen, who was demanding a fourth-round pick from the Dolphins for Harrington, has become frustrated with that situation. The Dolphins are offering a sixth-round pick in 2007 for Harrington, and a team source said that was as far as the team would go; if necessary, the Dolphins would wait for Harrington to be cut to sign him. ''I think that's a [salary] cap violation,'' Millen said. ``You can't talk about a contract. . . . I'm giving them permission to talk to him and get to know the kid.'' Millen, who is close friends with former Dolphins general manager Rick Spielman, said he might discuss the situation with the NFL. Harrington is expected to sign a two-year deal with the Dolphins that will earn him approximately $2 million in the first year, once he is either traded or cut. NO TALK ON CFL Agent Leigh Steinberg said he hadn't had any discussions with suspended running back Ricky Williams about possibly signing with Toronto of the CFL. http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/sport...ll/14477292.htm
May 2, 200618 yr id give anything to know what kind of videos or pictures this man has of the Fords? i mean seriously how the f*** does this man still have a job!?
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