Im glad we're able to hear from the players themselves saying Girardi has made a difference, contrary to the comments made by some of you, deeming him irrelevant to this year's success.

 

Name me one Marlin, former or current, who has ever said negative things about his coach during the season while the player was still playing for the manager. I can think of only one - Dan Miceli ripped John Boles for being incompetent and for poor player positioning, and he was promptly traded for next to nothing.

 

Oh, and before anyone brings up Beckett/McKeon, to the best of my recollection, any bashing of McKeon done during the season was that McKeon didn't really have a personal relationship with many members of the team. Rather, he was simply the coach.

 

This article is meaningless. If you think Girardi is doing a great job and should be kept, then that's fine. But, it is flawed reasoning to base your opinion on what the current roster publicly states during the season. What else would they say (or could they say)?

 

Agreed 100%. You think the players respected Girardi grabbing Olsen by the shirt? Its one thing for Messenger to give him a fistful...but the manager? That's intimidation, not respect. Girardi wants the players to fear him and the owner to let him be. How would Joe be if the owner grabbed him by the shirt collar and the players treated Joe with the same sort of lack of class he showed his boss (even if it IS Loria)?

I still think this whole thing is getting blown out of proportion. And Loria is looking like the immature child.

 

The team is winning and we are in the race. What else do they want? Loria should just acknoledge that Girardi is doing a good job and deal with this at the end of the season. If he wants to fire him during the offseason, so be it

Im glad we're able to hear from the players themselves saying Girardi has made a difference, contrary to the comments made by some of you, deeming him irrelevant to this year's success.

 

Name me one Marlin, former or current, who has ever said negative things about his coach during the season while the player was still playing for the manager. I can think of only one - Dan Miceli ripped John Boles for being incompetent and for poor player positioning, and he was promptly traded for next to nothing.

 

Oh, and before anyone brings up Beckett/McKeon, to the best of my recollection, any bashing of McKeon done during the season was that McKeon didn't really have a personal relationship with many members of the team. Rather, he was simply the coach.

 

This article is meaningless. If you think Girardi is doing a great job and should be kept, then that's fine. But, it is flawed reasoning to base your opinion on what the current roster publicly states during the season. What else would they say (or could they say)?

 

Agreed 100%. You think the players respected Girardi grabbing Olsen by the shirt? Its one thing for Messenger to give him a fistful...but the manager? That's intimidation, not respect. Girardi wants the players to fear him and the owner to let him be. How would Joe be if the owner grabbed him by the shirt collar and the players treated Joe with the same sort of lack of class he showed his boss (even if it IS Loria)?

I think Girardi was out of line with the shirt grabbing but if players didn't support him they could say something along the lines of what DTrain said or they could bash him through the unnamed source route or they could give a no comment. If they didn't support him then they wouldn't support him on the record. Of course we don't know if Capozzi went to all 25 players and got only 3 to backup Girardi.

 

I don't think there are many guys on the team that feel THAT secure with their jobs that they would be vocal against anyone. I mean, I also didnt hear anyone come out against Loria...should we read into that too? I would guess Dontrelle and Cabrera and maybe even Loria, Beinfest and Girardi have told the kids...look this is internal...no one should be taking sides. Loria and and Joe are big boys and it's their fight. It's not High School where ya either with us or against us. If in the end Joe and Loria come together do you wanna be the rookie that spoke out against Joe? Or what if later on in your career you land on Joe's team?

One of the favorite topics on the Mike and Mike show this morning was the rip job on Jeff Loria. Both Greenie and Golic, as well as Buster Olney just made mince-meat of Jeff Loria, and bascially said he is a disgrace to MLB if he fires a "Manager of the Year" candidate.

 

This is no longer just a local issue, as now everyone is associating the possible Cubs job opening up. What to make of the national media seemingly taking Joe's side ? They discussed how the FO (Beinfest & co.) is planting stories, 1st in the Denver Post, then in the Chicago Tribune, and now the Miami Herald, The Sun-Sentinel and the Palm Beach Post, to make Giriardi look bad. Especially making hay of the "so-called" disagreements Joe had with playing Olivo and using the young pitching. They made a reference that the reason you haven't seen Herges too much lately is because the FO told Joe NOT to use him but to put the young people "in positions" so they could see how they play.

 

It sounds like the clubhouse is a very dysfuntional place and its all the more remarkable what the team is doing on the field.

 

But why is it always the Marlins franchise that has to have all this drama ?