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El Duque, Glavine to start first two NLDS games

Associated Press

 

ATLANTA -- The New York Mets managed to win their first NL East title since 1988 with Pedro Martinez battling injuries all season.

 

They will have to show that same resiliency in the postseason.

 

The Mets announced Thursday that the three-time Cy Young Award winner will miss the entire postseason with a left calf injury. The Mets had hoped to go with Martinez in Game 1 of the National League Division Series but will now use Orlando Hernandez instead.

 

Mets manager Willie Randolph said Thursday Tom Glavine gets the start in Game 2 of the best-of-five series. Martinez headed back to New York on Thursday to get evaluated by team doctors.

 

"It's taken a lot away from me: my confidence and the location of my pitches," Martinez said before he left Atlanta. "When you don't have the legs to push off and create velocity and locate your pitches, you're in trouble. And I can't locate right now."

 

Randolph hasn't decided whether to drop Martinez from the 25-man roster for the opening round of the playoffs but did say his ace would not be moved to the bullpen.

 

"The only way Pedro will be on the roster is if we're sure he can start for us," Randolph said. "We won't go in saying, 'Maybe he can.' Any uncertainty, he won't be on the roster."

 

Martinez (9-8) has lost four straight starts -- the first when his calf began hurting, the last three since coming off a monthlong stint on the disabled list. He looked downright awful against the Atlanta Braves on Wednesday night, giving up eight hits, seven runs and two homers in 2 2/3 innings.

 

"He couldn't command his pitches," said Atlanta catcher Brian McCann, who hit the first of consecutive homers off Martinez in the third. "He was getting behind in the count."

 

Martinez conceded that it would be tougher for the Mets to advance in the playoffs without him, though they've made it this far without a big contribution from their top starter. He was bothered in spring training by a sore toe, went on the DL at midseason with an ailing hip and fell short of 10 wins for only the second time in his 14-year career.

 

"When I'm out or hurting, obviously we're not going to do as good," Martinez said. "Anytime you lose a No. 1 pitcher, one of your five starters, it's going to hurt you a little bit. But these guys are professionals. They know how to do things. They've done really, really well without me. I hope they can do that again and pick me up during the time I'm limited or away."

 

The Mets wrapped up the NL East title with nearly two weeks left in the regular season and looked to be a strong favorite to reach the World Series from a league that will have no other playoff team with 90 wins.

 

But with Martinez looking doubtful, New York would appear to have one glaring weakness: starting pitching. Beyond Hernandez (10-11 going into a start Thursday night) and Glavine (14-7), the other potential starters are Steve Trachsel, whose 15 wins are mitigated by an ERA of nearly 5.00, and six-game winner John Maine, a rookie.

 

Martinez's teammates aren't giving up on their ace making a sudden recovery in time for the playoffs, though they're also preparing for the alternative.

 

"I don't think not having Pedro means we can't win," Glavine said. "But there's no question your biggest concern -- ever -- going into a postseason is if you have all your guys healthy. And that's not going to be the case for us. We have to deal with it."

 

Martinez knew he wouldn't be pitching Game 1 of the playoffs after posting a 16.97 ERA over his last four starts, giving up 22 hits and 20 earned runs in 11 2/3 innings.

 

"Obviously, the other guys are in better shape than I am right now," he said. "Everybody can see that. I think it would be a bad decision for Willie to put me out there the way I look now."

 

When Martinez first strained his calf muscle, he didn't think it was that big a deal. Now he knows better.

 

"It affects my shoulder, it affects my legs, it affects my back. It affects everything, really," he said. "Those legs are everything. Without them, it's impossible to get the result you want."

 

Copyright 2006 by The Associated Press

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That article is old.

 

He has been diagnosed with a tear in his calf muscle.

 

 

So old that it's front page of espn.com?

Yes, considering it isn't the news about him being totally out and talks about whether or not he would be used in the bullpen.

 

It's old when it was reported that he had a torn calf muscle and is out for the postseason.

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That article is old.

 

He has been diagnosed with a tear in his calf muscle.

 

 

So old that it's front page of espn.com?

Yes, considering it isn't the news about him being totally out and talks about whether or not he would be used in the bullpen.

 

It's old when it was reported that he had a torn calf muscle and is out for the postseason.

 

So then to you the information is old, but not the article itself.

 

According to ESPN news services, as of typing, it was updated 3 minutes ago. Maybe that's old to you, but not to me.

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That article is old.

 

He has been diagnosed with a tear in his calf muscle.

 

 

So old that it's front page of espn.com?

Yes, considering it isn't the news about him being totally out and talks about whether or not he would be used in the bullpen.

 

It's old when it was reported that he had a torn calf muscle and is out for the postseason.

 

So then to you the information is old, but not the article itself.

 

According to ESPN news services, as of typing, it was updated 3 minutes ago. Maybe that's old to you, but not to me.

Jesus, WTF does it matter? I was just letting people know that that information is no longer correct and that he has a torn calf muslce.

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I see where Ramp's coming from, and I agree to an extent that now not having to start Pedro for at least game 3 of the NLDS is a good thing for the Mets.

 

However, the Mets two most important bats (Reyes and Delgado) have never been to the post-season, so it's unkown how they'll respond.

 

Tom Glavine has a losing record in the post season and outside of Beltran, every bat in the Mets lineup of consequence is going to October for the first time.

 

And as much as any Met fan wants to say they did this without Pedro, he has won 9 games this season and at the start of the year when he was needed most, he was 5-0 with a 2.94 ERA. After their amazingly hot-start, the Mets put it in cruise control and haven't had to sweat. Well, now's a completely different story.

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that Zito for Milledge deal would have been kind of useful

 

I doubt that was ever realistically on the table.

 

Tom Glavine has a losing record in the post season and outside of Beltran, every bat in the Mets lineup of consequence is going to October for the first time.

Glavine is 12-10 in the postseason.

 

Floyd went to the postseason with your Marlins and Green played for the Dodgers in the playoffs.

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that Zito for Milledge deal would have been kind of useful

 

I doubt that was ever realistically on the table.

 

Tom Glavine has a losing record in the post season and outside of Beltran, every bat in the Mets lineup of consequence is going to October for the first time.

Glavine is 12-10 in the postseason.

 

Floyd went to the postseason with your Marlins and Green played for the Dodgers in the playoffs.

 

 

 

 

FWIW, Cliff Floyd got very little playing time (if any) in the postseason when he was a Marlin.

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that Zito for Milledge deal would have been kind of useful

 

I doubt that was ever realistically on the table.

 

Tom Glavine has a losing record in the post season and outside of Beltran, every bat in the Mets lineup of consequence is going to October for the first time.

Glavine is 12-10 in the postseason.

 

Floyd went to the postseason with your Marlins and Green played for the Dodgers in the playoffs.

 

And Green and Floyd are bats of consequence?

 

And saying Floyd went to the post season with the Marlins is like saying Delgado won the World Series with the Blue Jays. 2 at bat's do not make a heck of a lot of difference (the amount Floyd got in '97).

 

And Glavine is 12-15 in the playoffs.

 

http://www.baseball-reference.com/g/glavito02.shtml

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Depends what you mean by consequence, starting lineup to me is of consequence and you just said postseason experience, those two have some.

 

 

Beltran, LoDuca, Delgado, Reyes, Wright, the 1-5 hitters. Those are of consequence

 

When you're 1-5 hitters are pretty green and your #2 starter has a losing post-season record, you're in trouble.

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I wonder if that reasoning came in to play when you ever discussed the Marlins postseason chances, or if this is the continuation of you doubting the Mets chances since pre-season.

 

 

There's a difference between post season chances and winning in the post season.

 

Thanks for making me feel like I've done a great job, when it results to irrelevant personal insults, I'm just doing great. :thumbup

 

My Mets focus has and always will be that they're a flawed team as you just can't win it all with a thin rotation and a lineup built around the 3 run homer...just look at the '04 Cardinals, and with the amount of money the Mets are spending, anything less than a World Series appearance and a 6 game series is a failure.

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