Hanleylicious Posted December 7, 2006 Share Posted December 7, 2006 1) Alex Gordon, 3B, Kansas City Royals 2) Delmon Young, OF, Tampa Bay Devil Rays 3) Phil Hughes, RHP, New York Yankees 4) Matt Garza, RHP, Minnesota Twins 5) Brandon Wood, SS, Los Angeles Angels 6) Mike Pelfrey, RHP, New York Mets 7) Jay Bruce, OF, Cincinnati Reds 8) Homer Bailey, RHP, Cincinnati Reds 9) Troy Tulowitzki, SS, Colorado Rockies 10) Justin Upton, OF, Arizona Diamondbacks 11) Jose Tabata, OF, New York Yankees 12) Andy LaRoche, 3B, Los Angeles Dodgers 13) Andrew McCutchen, OF, Pittsburgh Pirates 14) Adam Miller, RHP, Cleveland Indians 15) Luke Hochevar, RHP, Kansas City Royals 16) Yovanni Gallardo, RHP, Milwaukee Brewers 17) Adam Lind, OF, Toronto Blue Jays 18) Cameron Maybin, OF, Detroit Tigers 19) Billy Butler, OF, Kansas City Royals 20) Elvis Andrus, SS, Atlanta Braves 21) Fernando Martinez, OF, New York Mets 22) Evan Longoria, 3B, Tampa Bay Devil Rays 23) Andrew Miller, LHP, Detroit Tigers 24) Clayton Kershaw, LHP, Los Angeles Dodgers 25) Adam Jones, OF, Seattle Mariners 26) James Loney, 1B, Los Angeles Dodgers 27) Scott Elbert, LHP, Los Angeles Dodgers 28) Tim Lincecum, RHP, San Francisco Giants 29) Carlos Gonzalez, OF, Arizona Diamondbacks 30) Kevin Slowey, RHP, Minnesota Twins 31) Eric Hurley, RHP, Texas Rangers 32) Hunter Pence, OF, Houston Astros 33) John Danks, LHP, Texas Rangers 34) Troy Patton, LHP, Houston Astros 35) Reid Brignac, SS, Tampa Bay Devil Rays 36) Josh Fields, 3B, Chicago White Sox 37) Elijah Dukes, OF, Tampa Bay Devil Rays 38) Travis Buck, OF, Oakland Athletics 39) Jason Hirsh, RHP, Houston Astros 40) Craig Hansen, RHP, Boston Red Sox 41) Ian Stewart, 3B, Colorado Rockies 42) Chris Iannetta, C, Colorado Rockies 43) Nick Adenhart, RHP, Los Angeles Angels 44) Jacoby Ellsbury, OF, Boston Red Sox 45) Matt Albers, RHP, Houston Astros 46) Chuck Lofgren, LHP, Cleveland Indians 47) Franklin Morales, LHP, Colorado Rockies 48) Chris Young, OF, Arizona Diamondbacks 49) Humberto Sanchez, RHP, Detroit Tigers 50) Brandon Erbe, RHP, Baltimore Orioles 51) Colby Rasmus, OF, St. Louis Cardinals 52) Ryan Braun, 3B, Milwaukee Brewers 53) George Kottaras, C, San Diego Padres 54) Clay Buchholz, RHP, Boston Red Sox 55) Donald Veal, LHP, Chicago Cubs 56) Joey Votto, 1B, Cincinnati Reds 57) Miguel Montero, C, Arizona Diamondbacks 58) Ubaldo Jimenez, RHP, Colorado Rockies 59) Wade Davis, RHP, Tampa Bay Devil Rays 60) Lance Broadway, RHP, Chicago White Sox 61) Garrett Olson, LHP, Baltimore Orioles 62) Chris Volstad, RHP, Florida Marlins 63) Kory Casto, 3B-OF, Washington Nationals 64) Joel Guzman, OF, Tampa Bay Devil Rays 65) Michael Bowden, RHP, Boston Red Sox 66) Radhames Liz, RHP, Baltimore Orioles 67) Gio Gonzalez, LHP, Philadelphia Phillies 68) Aaron Thompson, LHP, Florida Marlins 69) Sean West, LHP, Florida Marlins 70) Eric Campbell, 3B, Atlanta Braves 71) Justin Huber, 1B-OF, Kansas City Royals 72) Erick Aybar, SS, Los Angeles Angels 73) Jeff Clement, C, Seattle Mariners 74) Travis Wood, LHP, Cincinnati Reds 75) Pat Neshek, RHP, Minnesota Twins 76) Scott Lewis, LHP, Cleveland Indians 77) Dustin Pedroia, 2B, Boston Red Sox 78) Brandon Morrow, RHP, Seattle Mariners 79) Brad Lincoln, RHP, Pittsburgh Pirates 80) Jacob McGee, LHP, Tampa Bay Devil Rays 81) Carlos Carrasco, RHP, Philadelphia Phillies 82) Will Inman, RHP, Milwaukee Brewers 83) Jeremy Hellickson, RHP, Tampa Bay Devil Rays 84) Travis Snider, OF, Toronto Blue Jays 85) Bill Rowell, 3B, Baltimore Orioles 86) Trevor Crowe, OF, Cleveland Indians 87) Dexter Fowler, OF, Colorado Rockies 88) Gaby Hernandez, RHP, Florida Marlins 89) Matt Harrison, LHP, Atlanta Braves 90) Blake DeWitt, 2B, Los Angeles Dodgers 91) Hank Conger, C, Los Angeles Angels 92) Nolan Reimold, OF, Baltimore Orioles 93) Chris Parmalee, OF, Minnesota Twins 94) Scott Thorman, 1B, Atlanta Braves 95) Sean Gallagher, RHP, Chicago Cubs 96) Francisco Cruceta, RHP, Seattle Mariners 97) Tyler Clippard, RHP, New York Yankees 98) Joe Koshansky, 1B, Colorado Rockies 99) Stephen Marek, RHP, Los Angeles Angels 100) Juan Gutierrez, RHP, Houston Astros Article first appeared 12/6/06 Rotowire.com One of the first lists I've seen with a few guys from this years Amateur Draft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishfan79 Posted December 7, 2006 Share Posted December 7, 2006 Dukes at 37, interesting list. They are high on tabata I think. But it is interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSwift25 Posted December 7, 2006 Share Posted December 7, 2006 Did anyone else double take when they saw Pelfrey and Martinez that high? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanleylicious Posted December 7, 2006 Author Share Posted December 7, 2006 Martinez moreso than Pelfrey, but yeah. In my estimation, Hochevar is a little high too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
My3Username Posted December 7, 2006 Share Posted December 7, 2006 Did anyone else double take when they saw Pelfrey and Martinez that high? Pelfrey is like 9-13 sots to high but I think Martinez belongs where he is. Guys who I believe are to high in his list are Lind, Miller, Slowey, Kottaras, Clippard, Cruceta, Liz, Olson, Thompson, and Marek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishfan79 Posted December 7, 2006 Share Posted December 7, 2006 why is clippard even on the list? surprised garcia didnt make the list Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanleylicious Posted December 7, 2006 Author Share Posted December 7, 2006 why is clippard even on the list? Because he's a good pitching prospect, lol. If I'm not mistaken, he tossed a no-no this year too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSwift25 Posted December 7, 2006 Share Posted December 7, 2006 Also, anyone find it interesting that Young qualifies as a prospect, yet Milledge doesn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramp Posted December 7, 2006 Share Posted December 7, 2006 prob has something to do with time in the majors maybe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishfan79 Posted December 7, 2006 Share Posted December 7, 2006 why is clippard even on the list? Because he's a good pitching prospect, lol. If I'm not mistaken, he tossed a no-no this year too. I see him as a 4-5 in the majors at most. :thumbdown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanleylicious Posted December 7, 2006 Author Share Posted December 7, 2006 why is clippard even on the list? Because he's a good pitching prospect, lol. If I'm not mistaken, he tossed a no-no this year too. I see him as a 4-5 in the majors at most. :thumbdown I don't really know how you can say that, than again, I remember you rattling off about 8 pitching prospects that you thought to have higher ceilings than Phil Hughes. I think you've got a beef with Yankees prospects :lol Clipp's 20 years old, is still growing into his frame, and throws 2 plus pitches A mid 90's fastball, and a + curve, both of which,I've read, he's able to spot impeccably (sp?) He's like 6'4'' and weights 170 or 180, as he fills out it's anyones guess how many ticks he can add to his fastball Add a halfway decent change or slider, and he can be a good Top/Middle of the rotation starter behind Hughes and whoever else. If nothing else, he'll be a reliable arm in the back half of their pen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbob1313 Posted December 7, 2006 Share Posted December 7, 2006 I don't really know how you can say that, than again, I remember you rattling off about 8 pitching prospects that you thought to have higher ceilings than Phil Hughes. I think you've got a beef with Yankees prospects :lol Clipp's 20 years old, is still growing into his frame, and throws 2 plus pitches A mid 90's fastball, and a + curve, both of which,I've read, he's able to spot impeccably (sp?) He's like 6'4'' and weights 170 or 180, as he fills out it's anyones guess how many ticks he can add to his fastball Add a halfway decent change or slider, and he can be a good Top/Middle of the rotation starter behind Hughes and whoever else. If nothing else, he'll be a reliable arm in the back half of their pen. This post is amazing. You go from saying "He's way better than a 4/5 pitcher" to saying "IF he becomes a better pitcher, he'll be a middle of the rotation guy" to saying "He might just be a bullpen arm". John Kruk can't even put out that kind of analysis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishfan79 Posted December 7, 2006 Share Posted December 7, 2006 why is clippard even on the list? Because he's a good pitching prospect, lol. If I'm not mistaken, he tossed a no-no this year too. I see him as a 4-5 in the majors at most. :thumbdown I don't really know how you can say that, than again, I remember you rattling off about 8 pitching prospects that you thought to have higher ceilings than Phil Hughes. I think you've got a beef with Yankees prospects :lol Clipp's 20 years old, is still growing into his frame, and throws 2 plus pitches A mid 90's fastball, and a + curve, both of which,I've read, he's able to spot impeccably (sp?) He's like 6'4'' and weights 170 or 180, as he fills out it's anyones guess how many ticks he can add to his fastball Add a halfway decent change or slider, and he can be a good Top/Middle of the rotation starter behind Hughes and whoever else. If nothing else, he'll be a reliable arm in the back half of their pen. Actually I am a yankees fan and I think hughes has good potentials as a pitcher but I dont think Clipp does really. I think Clipp will end up a 4-5/ pen arm from what I have seen of him. I dont think he should be a top 100 prospect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanleylicious Posted December 7, 2006 Author Share Posted December 7, 2006 I don't really know how you can say that, than again, I remember you rattling off about 8 pitching prospects that you thought to have higher ceilings than Phil Hughes. I think you've got a beef with Yankees prospects :lol Clipp's 20 years old, is still growing into his frame, and throws 2 plus pitches A mid 90's fastball, and a + curve, both of which,I've read, he's able to spot impeccably (sp?) He's like 6'4'' and weights 170 or 180, as he fills out it's anyones guess how many ticks he can add to his fastball Add a halfway decent change or slider, and he can be a good Top/Middle of the rotation starter behind Hughes and whoever else. If nothing else, he'll be a reliable arm in the back half of their pen. This post is amazing. You go from saying "He's way better than a 4/5 pitcher" to saying "IF he becomes a better pitcher, he'll be a middle of the rotation guy" to saying "He might just be a bullpen arm". John Kruk can't even put out that kind of analysis. I never said "He's way better than a 4/5 pitcher" I simply said, I don't know how you can pass judgement on a young pitcher, of a mere 20 years in age who hasn't even filled into his frame yet and still has a developing arsenal. All things considered, he's got the projectability to become a TOP/Middle of the rotation starter, not a "BACK of the rotation starter AT BEST", which is what I respectfully disagreed with. Notice the "If Nothing Else", when used in front of the words "reliable arm in the back half of their pen". This was an implication on my part, that IF, for whatever reason, He doesn't develop a third pitch, he can go into a role where he can utilize the two plus pitches he already possesses. However, I don't see Tyler Clippard, at 20 years old, not developing a third pitch- whether it be a change or slider or what-have-you. It was simply a hypothetical, which seemed to go over your head. Afterall, these (or any) prospect ratings, are based on projectability, not 100% on where they are now- or else guys like Tabata, Andrus, etc. wouldn't be listed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted December 8, 2006 Share Posted December 8, 2006 Did Sickels forget that Sanchez was involved in the Sheff trade? Probably just a simple mistake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marlins2003 Posted December 8, 2006 Share Posted December 8, 2006 Just like so many other of these kinds of lists, BJ Upton has become a non-entity, so far has he fallen in the eyes of those who judge minor league talent. Ditto the Fab 50 list which he once was #1. And Sickels doesn't come across as a guy with an axe to grind. You might disagree with his assessment here or there but you can usually expect straight talk from the guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishfan79 Posted December 8, 2006 Share Posted December 8, 2006 upton has too much major league time to be on the lists Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marlins2003 Posted December 8, 2006 Share Posted December 8, 2006 upton has too much major league time to be on the lists If you go to Sickels' website and look at his list of top 20 Tampa Bay prospects for 2006, Upton was nowhere to be seen. Sickels had already written him off in the sense he found twenty players better in the organization, which is not to say he won't be a ML player. or is without skills. Not totally down on him, gives him some props but sees talent moving past him quickly thus (I surmise) his absence from this list. And he only came up about three weeks before Delmon Young who is on the list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Godfather Posted December 8, 2006 Share Posted December 8, 2006 upton has too much major league time to be on the lists If you go to Sickels' website and look at his list of top 20 Tampa Bay prospects for 2006, Upton was nowhere to be seen. Sickels had already written him off in the sense hefound twenty players better in the organization, I'd bet 100 bucks on this not being true. Sickels did not include him because he is not eligible, too much playing time in MLB. No way in hell the Rays have 20 better prospects than Upton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marlins2003 Posted December 8, 2006 Share Posted December 8, 2006 upton has too much major league time to be on the lists If you go to Sickels' website and look at his list of top 20 Tampa Bay prospects for 2006, Upton was nowhere to be seen. Sickels had already written him off in the sense hefound twenty players better in the organization, I'd bet 100 bucks on this not being true. Sickels did not include him because he is not eligible, too much playing time in MLB. No way in hell the Rays have 20 better prospects than Upton. Upton was still in the minors when this was written. He wasn't called up until August 1st. This was published July 4th. http://www.minorleagueball.com/story/2006/7/4/183057/5440 It was Sickels choice who to include and what his definition of a prospect was. Upton did play a bit in 2004, although none in 2005 and not in 2006 until being called up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramp Posted December 10, 2006 Share Posted December 10, 2006 I gotta agree with Godfather here (never go against the family), Upton isnt on the list because he has too much major league time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FutureGM Posted December 11, 2006 Share Posted December 11, 2006 Man, Ian Stewart has really fallen. A year or more ago he was in the Top 10 prospects in the game. Jeff Clement is also way too low, especially considering he's argueably the best catching prospect around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sirspud Posted December 11, 2006 Share Posted December 11, 2006 Man, Ian Stewart has really fallen. A year or more ago he was in the Top 10 prospects in the game. Jeff Clement is also way too low, especially considering he's argueably the best catching prospect around. What are the chances of Stewart even cracking the Rockie's roster anytime soon? He's blocked by the two best players on the Rockies, assuming he could move to first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarlinsLou Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 I gotta agree with Godfather here (never go against the family), Upton isnt on the list because he has too much major league time This is just 03 typing more irrational hatred towards the D-Rays. It's absolutely obvious that is the reason why he isn't on the list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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