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AROUND THE HORN

Lieber found Girardi to be big tipper

 

 

 

 

By Chris Jenkins

UNION-TRIBUNE STAFF WRITER

February 25, 2007

 

Apparently, the old rules about fraternization in baseball are about as much in play anymore as the Marquess of Queensberry rules at the Ultimate Fighting Championships.

 

However nice the story of Jon Lieber's turnaround last year ? the Phillies right-hander went from 4-8 with a 6.09 ERA on July 31 to 5-3, 3.38 in his final 11 starts ? purists have to wonder about the source of his improvement. At his low point, Lieber gave up nine runs on 13 hits in only 4 2/3 innings against the Marlins, whereupon he got a phone call from Florida manager Joe Girardi.

 

 

 

He just mentioned that the hitters said everything that was coming in was just very flat,? Lieber said, attributing his turnabout to that conversation. ?Basically I was underneath the ball. I wasn't on top of the ball like I should have been. And that's why the ball doesn't have that crispness when it gets to the strike zone or that sharp break on my breaking ball. It just kind of stays right there for the hitters to lick their lips at.?

Such a talk would be questionable enough if the Marlins and Phillies were just in the same league, but they're both members of the NL East and still had 10 games to play against each other in September when Girardi helped Lieber correct his problem, including the final weekend of the season as both vied for a wild-card spot.

 

 

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this happens all the time in baseball

 

opposing managers would tell each other when they thought a pitcher was tipping his pitches

 

absolutely nothing wrong with what Joe did here

 

I couldn't disagree with you more!

 

If it happens all the time in baseball, it is wrong every time it happens!

 

The job of the manager is to win games for his team and for the fans. It is not his job to act like the "nice guy" to the opposing player, specially to those player that his team will be facing that same year! It is up to the players own manager and coaching staff to help him out.

 

There is NO excuse for this. NONE!

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this happens all the time in baseball

 

opposing managers would tell each other when they thought a pitcher was tipping his pitches

 

absolutely nothing wrong with what Joe did here

 

Yup, and players will call old pitching coaches all the time for mechanics/effectiveness issues.

 

"Do unto others..."

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this happens all the time in baseball

 

opposing managers would tell each other when they thought a pitcher was tipping his pitches

 

absolutely nothing wrong with what Joe did here

 

I couldn't disagree with you more!

 

If it happens all the time in baseball, it is wrong every time it happens!

 

The job of the manager is to win games for his team and for the fans. It is not his job to act like the "nice guy" to the opposing player, specially to those player that his team will be facing that same year! It is up to the players own manager and coaching staff to help him out.

 

There is NO excuse for this. NONE!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

OmG gIraRdi HeLPed oTHeR TeAmS BeAT tHE MArlIns!!!!!!!!!!!

 

ThERe iS nO ExCuSE

 

 

 

get a life

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this happens all the time in baseball

 

opposing managers would tell each other when they thought a pitcher was tipping his pitches

 

absolutely nothing wrong with what Joe did here

 

I couldn't disagree with you more!

 

If it happens all the time in baseball, it is wrong every time it happens!

 

The job of the manager is to win games for his team and for the fans. It is not his job to act like the "nice guy" to the opposing player, specially to those player that his team will be facing that same year! It is up to the players own manager and coaching staff to help him out.

 

There is NO excuse for this. NONE!

 

 

 

 

 

 

OmG gIraRdi HeLPed oTHeR TeAmS BeAT tHE MArlIns!!!!!!!!!!!

 

ThERe iS nO ExCuSE

 

 

 

get a life

 

you're an ass

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