November 13, 200718 yr With today's discussion in the 3:10 to Yuma thread, I thought I'd be a good idea to start this thread. I'll post my favorites up shortly.
November 13, 200718 yr Nothing better than a good western. In my opinion the ultimate Western is Unforgiven. It has everything and is also one of my top ten favorite movies. Best shoot out ever and one of the best scenes in any movie, period, is Clint Eastwood entering the bar at the end to take revenge on his friend. "you just shot an unarmed man" "well he should of armed him self if he's gonna decorate his saloon with my friend"
November 13, 200718 yr Unfortunately I haven't seen too many classic Westerns, but I'd have to say Tombstone has always been an overall favorite of mine (much better than Wyatt Earp imo). In the overall category of Westerns, I'm going with the 6 part mini series "Into the West." BTW, in the category of 'oddest' Western, Seraphim Falls takes the cake.
November 13, 200718 yr Not a big fan of Westerns on the whole but High Noon is one of my favorite movies ever. Unforgiven is very good. Does Dances With Wolves count as a Western? It takes place in the West, and has Indians and stuff. I like that one, too. And, um, City Slickers. Most of the other Westerns I've seen have made very bored, and those include classics like Shane and The Searchers. And Tombstone.
November 13, 200718 yr Author Unforgiven The Searchers Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid Treasure of the Sierra Madre (might be stretching it here) High Noon A Fistful of Dollars and I really liked this year's 3:10 to Yuma.
November 13, 200718 yr Author Not a big fan of Westerns on the whole but High Noon is one of my favorite movies ever. Unforgiven is very good. Does Dances With Wolves count as a Western? It takes place in the West, and has Indians and stuff. I like that one, too. And, um, City Slickers. Most of the other Westerns I've seen have made very bored, and those include classics like Shane and The Searchers. And Tombstone. The Searchers is boring? :blink:
November 13, 200718 yr The Outlaw Josey Wales High Plains Drifter Pale Rider All Clint Eastwood flicks but man those are definitely my Top 3.
November 13, 200718 yr I can't say I'm a fan of westerns. They are very cliched, considering how the movie scene was flooded with them for several decades. The best one I've seen was probably Unforgiven as well. Great performance by Eastwood, period.
November 13, 200718 yr Not a big fan of Westerns on the whole but High Noon is one of my favorite movies ever. Unforgiven is very good. Does Dances With Wolves count as a Western? It takes place in the West, and has Indians and stuff. I like that one, too. And, um, City Slickers. Most of the other Westerns I've seen have made very bored, and those include classics like Shane and The Searchers. And Tombstone. The Searchers is boring? :blink: To me. Took 3 sittings to finish it. If Butch Cassidy counts, then I like that one a lot.
November 14, 200718 yr Am I the only one who thinks the end to Unforgiven is almost cartoonish? I liked it the first time I saw it but the two subsequent viewings made me cringe at the ending. It makes me laugh and I'm not sure that was the effect it was going for. I also hated the interactions with the prostitutes, that was forced and drawn out for me. Clint Eastwood at his age, spitting out the tough guy lines seemed so forced, so unrealistic. Anyways... My favorites, no order: High Noon 3:10 to Yuma The Magnificent Seven (One of the most bad ass casts ever assembled) The Searchers The Man from Laramie A Fistful of Dollars For a Few Dollars More The Good, the Bad and the Ugly
November 14, 200718 yr I don't quite see your criticisms of Unforgiven, but to each his own. Sorry. How in the hell could I forget to add Once Upon a Time in the West to my list? Sergio Leone is incredible.
November 14, 200718 yr Am I the only one who thinks the end to Unforgiven is almost cartoonish? I liked it the first time I saw it but the two subsequent viewings made me cringe at the ending. It makes me laugh and I'm not sure that was the effect it was going for. I also hated the interactions with the prostitutes, that was forced and drawn out for me. Clint Eastwood at his age, spitting out the tough guy lines seemed so forced, so unrealistic. I always took it as it is supposed to be exaggerated/cartoonish like that. It has been awhile since I have seen it, but IMO the story is told from the perspective of the dime novel author who at first is following and listening to Little Bill's stories, but then is in the bar at the end shoot out, asking questions to Munney. Everything gets exaggerated and we see it on film instead of a dime novel. Clint basically made William Munney a caricature of his own "man with no name" roles. Like I said though, it has been a few years since I've seen it, I'd have to watch it again to more clearly explain myself.
November 14, 200718 yr I'm not attacking you, I just happen to disagree. The ending seems to me to be extreme only because the character has reverted back to an unrecognizable persona so rapidly. I'd say it's both true to the film and true to the genre. But that's me. Didn't think you were. The dialogue to me is awful and unrealistic the last 20 minutes of this movie (and at other times). The saloon scene is praised but I can't stand it and it kills a lot if not all of the movie to me. Morgan Freeman was basically himself in this (and I happen to like him). Not a good casting at all for such a pivotal character. The_Godfather's explanation may be correct and accurate but it doesn't change the fact I still don't care for it personally. Gene Hackman however was awesome in this and deserved his Oscar for sure. Little Bill is a great character.
November 14, 200718 yr 10. 3:10 to Yuma 9. Pale Rider 8. The Searchers 7. For a Few Dollars More 6. Once upon a Time in the West 5. The Magnificent Seven 4. The Proposition 3. The Good, the Bad, the Ugly 2. The Outlaw Josey Wales 1. Unforgiven
November 14, 200718 yr 10. 3:10 to Yuma 9. Pale Rider 8. The Searchers 7. For a Few Dollars More 6. Once upon a Time in the West 5. The Magnificent Seven 4. The Proposition 3. The Good, the Bad, the Ugly 2. The Outlaw Josie Wales 1. Unforgiven Word. But umm, it's Josey.
November 14, 200718 yr 10. 3:10 to Yuma 9. Pale Rider 8. The Searchers 7. For a Few Dollars More 6. Once upon a Time in the West 5. The Magnificent Seven 4. The Proposition 3. The Good, the Bad, the Ugly 2. The Outlaw Josie Wales 1. Unforgiven Word. But umm, it's Josey. ouch. Good call. :blink:
November 14, 200718 yr Well I can't even begin to debate your personal preferences for casting, etc. but just remember that there is more to the film than just that. :thumbup I had no idea. :| Putting an actor in a role they can't handle is pretty much a flaw in a film to me.
November 14, 200718 yr Author Well I can't even begin to debate your personal preferences for casting, etc. but just remember that there is more to the film than just that. :thumbup I had no idea. :| Putting an actor in a role they can't handle is pretty much a flaw in a film to me. I fail to see how Morgan Freeman could have been miscast in the role. His character served one purpose, bring out the past demons of Eastwood's character (and then finally releasing them towards the film's climax). Maybe you were expecting a 'Shawshank' type bond between the two but that was never the full purpose. The ending is what elevated the film for me. Btw, can we stop these "sorry for hurting your feelings because I disagree with you" comments? The best part about talking movies is that you can shoot down other people thoughts and opinions while at the same time be shot down. It's the only civil and most satisfying way. :mischief
November 14, 200718 yr Anyone who likes Spaghetti Westerns, check out "My Name Is Nobody". It's not directed by Sergio Leone, but its produced by him, starring Terence Hill and Henry Fonda. It's funny, but follows the Italian style of western. It also has a classic score by Leone cohort Ennio Morricone, the man when it comes to Western soundtracks. Nobody is one of the all time great western characters. My tops: The Good, the Bad and the Ugly Once Upon a Time in the West Nevada Smith For a Few Dollars More My Name is Nobody Young Guns Shane (can't have a list and not include Shane)
November 14, 200718 yr One of the best that hasn't been mentioned is Red River. Through the first 100 or so minutes it's as good as any until they bring an unnecessary love interest that subtracts from the movie but it's still great. I could be wrong but I think John Ford said it was the best western and he knows a bit about the genre.
November 14, 200718 yr The Dollars Trilogy: 1) Fistful Of Dollars 2) For A Few Dollars Now 3) The Good The Bad The Ugly Once Upon A Time in the West Blazing Saddles Unforgiven The Outlaw Josey Wales High Plains Drifter and Back to the Future III (IF you are a big fan of Eastwood westerns like I am, you'll realize how much of a tribute this movie is to those films - A lot of the shots and camera angles are lifted right from Clint's films )
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