October 8, 200818 yr Do you guys know how difficult it is to get 20 wins? It took Mike Mussina till this year (in his very solid career) to get to 20 wins (and he got it, in his last start). Nolasco & JJ can be great next year...to get 20 wins, they're going to need the offense to be amongst the best in baseball. One 20 game winner is tough to have...2 is almost unheard of. 15, yeah. sorry but to be honest Mussina was never a top flight pitcher and never had the stuff to put hitters away! I say OVERATED career andif he wasnt with the yankees he probaly would neverbeen mentioned that much! That is completely incorrect.
October 8, 200818 yr Do you guys know how difficult it is to get 20 wins? It took Mike Mussina till this year (in his very solid career) to get to 20 wins (and he got it, in his last start). Nolasco & JJ can be great next year...to get 20 wins, they're going to need the offense to be amongst the best in baseball. One 20 game winner is tough to have...2 is almost unheard of. 15, yeah. sorry but to be honest Mussina was never a top flight pitcher and never had the stuff to put hitters away! I say OVERATED career andif he wasnt with the yankees he probaly would neverbeen mentioned that much! Career: 18 seasons. 270 wins. 2813 strikeouts. 3.68 ERA. 1.192 WHIP. If he plays a couple more seasons (and after this season I don't see why not), he has a decent shot at being a 300 win, 3000 strikeout guy. Yeah, he's a nobody.
October 8, 200818 yr Do you guys know how difficult it is to get 20 wins? It took Mike Mussina till this year (in his very solid career) to get to 20 wins (and he got it, in his last start). Nolasco & JJ can be great next year...to get 20 wins, they're going to need the offense to be amongst the best in baseball. One 20 game winner is tough to have...2 is almost unheard of. 15, yeah. sorry but to be honest Mussina was never a top flight pitcher and never had the stuff to put hitters away! I say OVERATED career andif he wasnt with the yankees he probaly would neverbeen mentioned that much! Career: 18 seasons. 270 wins. 2813 strikeouts. 3.68 ERA. 1.192 WHIP. If he plays a couple more seasons (and after this season I don't see why not), he has a decent shot at being a 300 win, 3000 strikeout guy. Yeah, he's a nobody. Similar pitchers: 1. Juan Marichal (907) * 2. Curt Schilling (888) 3. Kevin Brown (885) 4. David Wells (884) 5. Carl Hubbell (864) * 6. Clark Griffith (863) * 7. Bob Welch (856) 8. Charlie Buffinton (850) 9. Catfish Hunter (849) * 10. Joe McGinnity (848) * Black Ink: Pitching - 15 (141) (Average HOFer ≈ 40) Gray Ink: Pitching - 244 (23) (Average HOFer ≈ 185) HOF Standards: Pitching - 54.0 (28) (Average HOFer ≈ 50) HOF Monitor: Pitching - 120.0 (70) (Likely HOFer > 100) Overall Rank in parentheses.
October 8, 200818 yr Let me just add that if Mussina does become a 300 Win/3000 K, he could just be the last one for a very very very long time.
October 8, 200818 yr Do you guys know how difficult it is to get 20 wins? It took Mike Mussina till this year (in his very solid career) to get to 20 wins (and he got it, in his last start). Nolasco & JJ can be great next year...to get 20 wins, they're going to need the offense to be amongst the best in baseball. One 20 game winner is tough to have...2 is almost unheard of. 15, yeah. sorry but to be honest Mussina was never a top flight pitcher and never had the stuff to put hitters away! I say OVERATED career andif he wasnt with the yankees he probaly would neverbeen mentioned that much! You know, sometimes I'm amazed at what I read here.
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