July 10, 200917 yr Sounds like a ton of sour grapes here fellas. Charlie can pick a replacement for Beltran to join the roster. I'm sure he will pick Sandoval. Then you guys can stop whining. Actually I hope he picks Werth, just so you guys have more to whine about. Stop being an ass. We can't vote for a guy who you yourself admit had better numbers without being homers? sh*t, you said Sandoval had better stats. What doesn't make him the better pick, he doesn't have a stronger heart? Maybe he doesn't grind as much? You're being ridiculous. Here's one for you Geniuses. If Vic didn't make it, and Sandoval did.. Who would play Center Field? And you know what. Sandoval is NOT head and shoulders better than Victorino. Sandoval 328 Average. Nice Victorino 309 Average. Not as Good but still damn good. Sandoval 13 Homeruns Not that great for a not that bad, but he's a 3rd basemen. Victorino 6 Homeruns Not that great, not that bad, however he is Centerfielder not typically a power position Sandoval 48 RBI Sandoval usually bats 3rd, 92 PA 5th an RBI producing spot Vic 42 RBI Vic usually bats second. Again CF isn't usually a run producing position but a run scoring position The big 3 right there.. a corner infielder has slightly better stats than a centerfielder Given where they bat in the order and what each player brings to their position I dont know how any of you guys can say that Sandoval got robbed. SOUR GRAPES. Lets look a little deeper now stat geeks Sandoval 39 Runs Victorino 61 runs Sandoval Stolen Bases 3 Victorino 15 Victorino is a comparable 2 hole hitter and a better Centerfielder than Sandoval is a 3 or a 5 hole hitter and a 3rd basemen The reserve outfielders on the NL Roster are all Right Fielders. With Beltran out, would you like to stick Sandoval out there in CF? Yeah that'd be smart. Charlie will probably pick Sandoval to replace Beltran on the roster, however.. The City of Philadelphia has very bright baseball fans and they picked the player that made the most sense to fill in the last spot on the roster. I rest my case.
July 10, 200917 yr ToddZolecki - Jayson Werth named to replace Carlos Beltran on the NL All-Star team. The entire Phillies OF is going to St. Louis: Ibanez, Victorino an ... LMAO
July 10, 200917 yr In answer to your question, since Beltran wasn't going to to show up anyways... the INTELLIGENT move would be to bring in Victorino in the spot Werth (lolwut) was and Sandoval deservedly wins the vote...
July 10, 200917 yr Cody Ross>Shane Victirino Matt Kemp>Shane Victirino Bottom line, Victirino IS NOT an all star.
July 10, 200917 yr And Sandoval and Victirino are not even close. .838 OPS .940 OPS Now tell me, who has the .838 OPS and who has the .940 OPS.
July 10, 200917 yr Werth deserves it way more then Victorino does. And Sandoval doesn't even make the team?!?!?! Stupid fan voting.
July 10, 200917 yr Sounds like a ton of sour grapes here fellas. Charlie can pick a replacement for Beltran to join the roster. I'm sure he will pick Sandoval. Then you guys can stop whining. Actually I hope he picks Werth, just so you guys have more to whine about. Stop being an ass. We can't vote for a guy who you yourself admit had better numbers without being homers? sh*t, you said Sandoval had better stats. What doesn't make him the better pick, he doesn't have a stronger heart? Maybe he doesn't grind as much? You're being ridiculous. Here's one for you Geniuses. If Vic didn't make it, and Sandoval did.. Who would play Center Field? Hunter Pence and Justin Upton can both play Center. That said, we could always use Victorino. He was going to end up on the team regardless, as proven by the addition of Werth, Manuel has not issue looking bias. You know though, a 3rd 3B would have been nice.
July 10, 200917 yr I will concede Werth to you, but you guys are out of your minds thinking Victorino didnt deserve it. He made it in fair and square. It was a fan vote and the fans spoke.
July 11, 200917 yr That's no making it in fair and square. Sandoval is crushing him this season, and he didn't make the team. Hell, he's better than Ryan Howard this season, and he still didn't make the team. WTF do we need 4 first basemans? I'll tell you why, because Manuel is a homer!
July 11, 200917 yr That's no making it in fair and square. Sandoval is crushing him this season, and he didn't make the team. Hell, he's better than Ryan Howard this season, and he still didn't make the team. WTF do we need 4 first basemans? I'll tell you why, because Manuel is a homer! Same with Maddon. Carl Crawford should be nowhere near that team.
July 11, 200917 yr Nelson Cruz made the All-Star team, not Carl Crawford. Both did. Crawford was put on the team by Maddon on the first roster, which makes it even worse.
July 11, 200917 yr Nelson Cruz made the All-Star team, not Carl Crawford. Both did. Crawford was put on the team by Maddon on the first roster, which makes it even worse. Oh, thanks. Was he one of the final ones to make it, or was he put on there because of an injury?
July 11, 200917 yr Nelson Cruz made the All-Star team, not Carl Crawford. Both did. Crawford was put on the team by Maddon on the first roster, which makes it even worse. Oh, thanks. Was he one of the final ones to make it, or was he put on there because of an injury? Neither, he's one of the original reserves. Fans obviously didn't vote him in and the players didn't vote him in either.
July 12, 200917 yr That's no making it in fair and square. Sandoval is crushing him this season, and he didn't make the team. Hell, he's better than Ryan Howard this season, and he still didn't make the team. WTF do we need 4 first basemans? I'll tell you why, because Manuel is a homer! Every year managers bring their own players. Like I said.. Last year Howard was leading both HR and RBI and didnt make the team. That was the first time ever that happened. I am willing to bet you were not here whining about Howard not making it. Deal with it.
July 12, 200917 yr That's no making it in fair and square. Sandoval is crushing him this season, and he didn't make the team. Hell, he's better than Ryan Howard this season, and he still didn't make the team. WTF do we need 4 first basemans? I'll tell you why, because Manuel is a homer! Every year managers bring their own players. Like I said.. Last year Howard was leading both HR and RBI and didnt make the team. That was the first time ever that happened. I am willing to bet you were not here whining about Howard not making it. Deal with it. Last year at the end of AS voting, Howard was hitting .215/.310/.460. You're telling me that's all-star worthy?
July 12, 200917 yr That's no making it in fair and square. Sandoval is crushing him this season, and he didn't make the team. Hell, he's better than Ryan Howard this season, and he still didn't make the team. WTF do we need 4 first basemans? I'll tell you why, because Manuel is a homer! Every year managers bring their own players. Like I said.. Last year Howard was leading both HR and RBI and didnt make the team. That was the first time ever that happened. I am willing to bet you were not here whining about Howard not making it. Deal with it. Last year at the end of AS voting, Howard was hitting .215/.310/.460. You're telling me that's all-star worthy? He was leading the league and MLB if I am not mistaken in both HR and RBI. Yes that is all-star worthy. Absolutely.
July 12, 200917 yr That's no making it in fair and square. Sandoval is crushing him this season, and he didn't make the team. Hell, he's better than Ryan Howard this season, and he still didn't make the team. WTF do we need 4 first basemans? I'll tell you why, because Manuel is a homer! Every year managers bring their own players. Like I said.. Last year Howard was leading both HR and RBI and didnt make the team. That was the first time ever that happened. I am willing to bet you were not here whining about Howard not making it. Deal with it. Last year at the end of AS voting, Howard was hitting .215/.310/.460. You're telling me that's all-star worthy? He was leading the league and MLB if I am not mistaken in both HR and RBI. Yes that is all-star worthy. Absolutely. It's funny that in 364 AB's before the all star break he had 129 K's. That's pretty pathetic
July 12, 200917 yr That's no making it in fair and square. Sandoval is crushing him this season, and he didn't make the team. Hell, he's better than Ryan Howard this season, and he still didn't make the team. WTF do we need 4 first basemans? I'll tell you why, because Manuel is a homer! Every year managers bring their own players. Like I said.. Last year Howard was leading both HR and RBI and didnt make the team. That was the first time ever that happened. I am willing to bet you were not here whining about Howard not making it. Deal with it. Last year at the end of AS voting, Howard was hitting .215/.310/.460. You're telling me that's all-star worthy? He was leading the league and MLB if I am not mistaken in both HR and RBI. Yes that is all-star worthy. Absolutely. It's funny that in 364 AB's before the all star break he had 129 K's. That's pretty pathetic So pathetic he is wearing a WS ring, has a ROY and an MVP. That dude is horrible. He doesnt get paid to get base hits he gets paid to his homers.
July 12, 200917 yr That's no making it in fair and square. Sandoval is crushing him this season, and he didn't make the team. Hell, he's better than Ryan Howard this season, and he still didn't make the team. WTF do we need 4 first basemans? I'll tell you why, because Manuel is a homer! Every year managers bring their own players. Like I said.. Last year Howard was leading both HR and RBI and didnt make the team. That was the first time ever that happened. I am willing to bet you were not here whining about Howard not making it. Deal with it. Last year at the end of AS voting, Howard was hitting .215/.310/.460. You're telling me that's all-star worthy? He was leading the league and MLB if I am not mistaken in both HR and RBI. Yes that is all-star worthy. Absolutely. And you call us homers. I think you're homerism is blinding you sir. You say that it's us who're being angry about a rivalry and being bias, but it's you. Like, let's say Uggla. Uggla is 2nd in the league in HR and RBI for 2B. Do I think he should be a reserve? Hell no! He's hitting .229/.340/.435. And god forbid if he got those numbers playing in a hitter's park! That'd be an insult to the ASG. There is so much more important stuff that homers and (the least important stat in a hitter's line) RBIs.
July 12, 200917 yr So pathetic he is wearing a WS ring, has a ROY and an MVP. That dude is horrible. He doesnt get paid to get base hits he gets paid to his homers. He won rookie of the year and the MVP last year? This isn't a lifetime acheivement award. He wasn't having a good season. His own fans were booing him.
July 12, 200917 yr That's no making it in fair and square. Sandoval is crushing him this season, and he didn't make the team. Hell, he's better than Ryan Howard this season, and he still didn't make the team. WTF do we need 4 first basemans? I'll tell you why, because Manuel is a homer! Every year managers bring their own players. Like I said.. Last year Howard was leading both HR and RBI and didnt make the team. That was the first time ever that happened. I am willing to bet you were not here whining about Howard not making it. Deal with it. Last year at the end of AS voting, Howard was hitting .215/.310/.460. You're telling me that's all-star worthy? He was leading the league and MLB if I am not mistaken in both HR and RBI. Yes that is all-star worthy. Absolutely. And you call us homers. I think you're homerism is blinding you sir. You say that it's us who're being angry about a rivalry and being bias, but it's you. Like, let's say Uggla. Uggla is 2nd in the league in HR and RBI for 2B. Do I think he should be a reserve? Hell no! He's hitting .229/.340/.435. And god forbid if he got those numbers playing in a hitter's park! That'd be an insult to the ASG. There is so much more important stuff that homers and (the least important stat in a hitter's line) RBIs. Yeah. I'm being a homer. AND LOL at RBIs being a worthless stat. Last season was the first time EVER. The first time EVER and I will repeat one more time The first time EVER that the HR and RBI leader at the AS break didnt make the team. Your Uggla comparisson is a putrid one at best. 2nd for a 2nd basemen in HR and RBI... Whoopdie friggen do. I'm talking the whole league.
July 12, 200917 yr Yeah. I'm being a homer. AND LOL at RBIs being a worthless stat. Last season was the first time EVER. The first time EVER and I will repeat one more time The first time EVER that the HR and RBI leader at the AS break didnt make the team. Your Uggla comparisson is a putrid one at best. 2nd for a 2nd basemen in HR and RBI... Whoopdie friggen do. I'm talking the whole league. You know what makes Chase Utley so important? He's a 2B who can hit like he can. The position is extremely important. If he played 1B, he wouldn't be an All-Star starter all the time. And yes, it was the first time ever (I assume, I'm not looking that up). That's because it was the first time someone managed to hit so many homers while having such a sh*tty season. And RBI is a worthless stat for individuals, it's based on other players as much as it's based on the player hitting. The Phillies were a damn good team last year, and as is with damn good teams, they had a lot of baserunners ahead of Howard. Howard had a ton of RBI ops. Last year, to that point, Howard was 2nd in PA with men on and 2st in PA's with RISP.
July 12, 200917 yr Yeah. I'm being a homer. AND LOL at RBIs being a worthless stat. Last season was the first time EVER. The first time EVER and I will repeat one more time The first time EVER that the HR and RBI leader at the AS break didnt make the team. Your Uggla comparisson is a putrid one at best. 2nd for a 2nd basemen in HR and RBI... Whoopdie friggen do. I'm talking the whole league. You know what makes Chase Utley so important? He's a 2B who can hit like he can. The position is extremely important. If he played 1B, he wouldn't be an All-Star starter all the time. And yes, it was the first time ever (I assume, I'm not looking that up). That's because it was the first time someone managed to hit so many homers while having such a sh*tty season. And RBI is a worthless stat for individuals, it's based on other players as much as it's based on the player hitting. The Phillies were a damn good team last year, and as is with damn good teams, they had a lot of baserunners ahead of Howard. Howard had a ton of RBI ops. Last year, to that point, Howard was 2nd in PA with men on and 2st in PA's with RISP. Why dont you look up his avg with risp last season. You know.. The ABs that count for a homerun hitter. and lol again at your nonsensical conclusion that RBIs dont matter.
July 12, 200917 yr Yeah. I'm being a homer. AND LOL at RBIs being a worthless stat. Last season was the first time EVER. The first time EVER and I will repeat one more time The first time EVER that the HR and RBI leader at the AS break didnt make the team. Your Uggla comparisson is a putrid one at best. 2nd for a 2nd basemen in HR and RBI... Whoopdie friggen do. I'm talking the whole league. You know what makes Chase Utley so important? He's a 2B who can hit like he can. The position is extremely important. If he played 1B, he wouldn't be an All-Star starter all the time. And yes, it was the first time ever (I assume, I'm not looking that up). That's because it was the first time someone managed to hit so many homers while having such a sh*tty season. And RBI is a worthless stat for individuals, it's based on other players as much as it's based on the player hitting. The Phillies were a damn good team last year, and as is with damn good teams, they had a lot of baserunners ahead of Howard. Howard had a ton of RBI ops. Last year, to that point, Howard was 2nd in PA with men on and 2st in PA's with RISP. Why dont you look up his avg with risp last season. You know.. The ABs that count for a homerun hitter. and lol again at your nonsensical conclusion that RBIs dont matter. The only things nonsensical have been your last few posts. You're grasping at straws. You lost all credibility when you decided that Howard should have been an All-Star last season.
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