December 20, 200322 yr Differed Payments Mike Hampton: $8,000,000 Ivan Rodriguez: 3,000,000 Catcher Ramon Castro: 400,000 Infielders Hee Seop Choi: 400,000 Luis Castillo: 4,000,000 Alex Gonzalez: 2,750,000 Mike Lowell: 6,500,000 Outfielders Jeff Conine: 3,000,000 Juan Pierre: 2,300,000 Miguel Cabrera: 400,000 Rotation Josh Beckett: 2,300,000 A.J. Burnett: 2,000,000 Brad Penny: 2,750,000 Carl Pavano: 2,400,000 Dontrelle Willis: 400,000 Bullpen Michael Tejera: 400,000 Mike Neu: 400,000 Chad Fox: 1,300,000 Blaine Neal: 375,000 Nate Bump: 400,000 Lefty Specialist: 300,000-1,000,000 Armando Benitez: 2,500,000 Bench Mike Redmond: 840,000 Mike Mordecai: 500,000 Lenny Harris: 500,000 Brian Banks: 400,000 Abe Nunez: 300,000 TOTAL: $49.165 We have a ways to go...
December 20, 200322 yr If we don't have a better bench than that we are in trouble. WC this is the bare minimum payroll. It will be higher than this. Like I said in the other thread it will be somewhere in between this and Marlins2003's payroll.
December 20, 200322 yr okay, i have a VERY RELIABLE and UNBIASED payroll spreadsheet that i've been waiting until the non-tender deadline to post. i don't really like your estimate for a number of reasons, but i'll post my spreadsheet tomorrow after we know who has been non-tendered (and basically after i know if we're getting benitez). edit: after adding the $11 million for hampton and pudge, your spreadsheet and mine actually look very similar... though there are a few numbers and players i would like to change, we're in the same ballpark.
December 20, 200322 yr this is definetly too low- you're saying we have 22 mill left over? How come we're not trying to make a trade for a rod? Not to mention you're saying that we won't sign anymore bench players OR anymore bullpen pitchers- it looks good, but it's not gonna happen.
December 20, 200322 yr Author If we don't have a better bench than that we are in trouble. WC this is the bare minimum payroll. It will be higher than this. Like I said in the other thread it will be somewhere in between this and Marlins2003's payroll. How is our bench in trouble with that? Redmond and Mordecai are contact hitters that can go to the opposite field. Harris is the lefty pinch hitting extrordinare. Banks is the switch-hitting versitle patient/power guy. And Abe brings defense and speed, with some pop as well.
December 20, 200322 yr Author this is definetly too low- you're saying we have 22 mill left over? How come we're not trying to make a trade for a rod? Not to mention you're saying that we won't sign anymore bench players OR anymore bullpen pitchers- it looks good, but it's not gonna happen. This is the payroll as it stands now (besides Benitez). I'm not saying this is what it will be.
December 20, 200322 yr Harris is the lefty pinch hitting extrordinare. Harris WAS the lefty pinch hitting extrordinare
December 20, 200322 yr this is definetly too low- you're saying we have 22 mill left over? How come we're not trying to make a trade for a rod? Not to mention you're saying that we won't sign anymore bench players OR anymore bullpen pitchers- it looks good, but it's not gonna happen. This is the payroll as it stands now (besides Benitez). I'm not saying this is what it will be. ok, i thought u were saying this would be about our final payrole
December 20, 200322 yr Author Harris is the lefty pinch hitting extrordinare. Harris WAS the lefty pinch hitting extrordinare I didn't get the memo. He sure fooled me in August-October.
December 20, 200322 yr this is definetly too low- you're saying we have 22 mill left over? How come we're not trying to make a trade for a rod? Not to mention you're saying that we won't sign anymore bench players OR anymore bullpen pitchers- it looks good, but it's not gonna happen. This is the payroll as it stands now (besides Benitez). I'm not saying this is what it will be. ok, i thought u were saying this would be about our final payrole shhh... people aren't supposed to know that wild card = Admin beinfest
December 20, 200322 yr If we don't have a better bench than that we are in trouble. WC this is the bare minimum payroll. It will be higher than this. Like I said in the other thread it will be somewhere in between this and Marlins2003's payroll. How is our bench in trouble with that? Redmond and Mordecai are contact hitters that can go to the opposite field. Harris is the lefty pinch hitting extrordinare. Banks is the switch-hitting versitle patient/power guy. And Abe brings defense and speed, with some pop as well. I agree with WC.... our bench was basically the same last season all its missing is a guy like andy fox who wasn't too great anyways im not gonna do the math...so j/w is that with or w/o the 11 mill in deferred payments?
December 20, 200322 yr Author im not gonna do the math...so j/w is that with or w/o the 11 mill in deferred payments? Without.
December 20, 200322 yr with the 11 million in payments, wildcard's number is about $49 million, which is pretty close to my $50-51 million
December 20, 200322 yr All WC needs is a closer, GOOD reliever, and some kind of good bench guy or a proven veteran that doesnt cost too much
December 20, 200322 yr Author with the 11 million in payments, wildcard's number is about $49 million, which is pretty close to my $50-51 million I've updated my original post. The total comes out to $48,725,000. Still have $11,275,000 left to spend, supposedly.
December 20, 200322 yr with the 11 million in payments, wildcard's number is about $49 million, which is pretty close to my $50-51 million I've updated my original post. The total comes out to $48,725,000. Still have $11,275,000 left to spend, supposedly. Vlad anyone??? *Tells people that I'm not hijacking thread*
December 20, 200322 yr All WC needs is a closer, GOOD reliever, and some kind of good bench guy or a proven veteran that doesnt cost too much well he did put benitez as the closer (our closer [looper or benitez] will probably be making $3 million) but yes, we seriously need to upgrade our bullpen and bench.
December 20, 200322 yr Correction: Pierre 2.3M link Redmond 840K Mordecai 425K. Almost certain to rise to 500K with the amount of games he plays. Could rise to 600K. Fox 1.3M link Deferrals to Pudge and Hampton = 11M. Question: Is Lowell's 4-year/32M contract broken up? Is it really 6.5M this year? Lenny Harris signed to a minor league deal. Is 500K the amount he makes if he's called up? And I think the league minimum for 2004 jumps to 375K.
December 20, 200322 yr Author (our closer [looper or benitez] will probably be making $3 million) I put 2,500,000 because the Marlins want 1-year $2 Mill, and he wants $3 Mill. And possibilities for the bullpen are non-tender candidate Scott Sullivan and a few others. And for the bench, Galarraga anyone?
December 20, 200322 yr Author Correction: Pierre 2.3M link Redmond 840K Mordecai 425K. Almost certain to rise to 500K with the amount of games he plays. Could rise to 600K. Fox 1.3M link Deferrals to Pudge and Hampton = 11M. Question: Is Lowell's 4-year/32M contract broken up? Is it really 6.5M this year? Lenny Harris signed to a minor league deal. Is 500K the amount he makes if he's called up? And I think the league minimum for 2004 jumps to 375K. I will make those corrections and have the total out to everyone in no time.
December 20, 200322 yr Correction: Pierre 2.3M link Redmond 840K Mordecai 425K. Almost certain to rise to 500K with the amount of games he plays. Could rise to 600K. Fox 1.3M link Deferrals to Pudge and Hampton = 11M. Question: Is Lowell's 4-year/32M contract broken up? Is it really 6.5M this year? Lenny Harris signed to a minor league deal. Is 500K the amount he makes if he's called up? And I think the league minimum for 2004 jumps to 375K. i agree with all those corrections, though i put mordecai at $500K and yes, lowell's contract is $6.5 million in 2004
December 20, 200322 yr Author i agree with all those corrections, though i put mordecai at $500K and yes, lowell's contract is $6.5 million in 2004 Corrections made. TOTAL: $49.165 Approximately $10,835,000 to spend.
December 20, 200322 yr How come we're not trying to make a trade for a rod? What players do The Marlins have the room to trade for Arod? I would love to know.
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