The Panthers have now won back to back Cups, meanwhile the Marlins continue.....whatever it is they're doing.

Just shows you what competent ownership does....ownership that's willing to spend and bring in the best, and imagine that - fans come out for a team that wins....who'd have thought?!

Let's hope they sell and bring in a group that wants to win and not just make a profit.....but I'm not holding my breath

Not a big hockey follower. What exactly do the Panthers do to make them a winner? Curious.

3 minutes ago, TheMarlinsProject said:

Not a big hockey follower. What exactly do the Panthers do to make them a winner? Curious.

I'll take the bait.

I said above, spend, bring in the best, evaluate well, trade well, sign well, etc. 3 consecutive Final appearances with 2 consecutive wins says they're doing it right.

Marlins do none of that, and haven't for a long time, and aren't anywhere near it either.

This is terrible advice. The panthers are a lousy football franchise.

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There is no better example that if the S Florida market can sell out every single game of a hockey regular season by spending smartly, keeping top players, generating a winning formula and showing fans that you are sticking with it, rather than a one time glory, THEN BASEBALL COULD FLOURISH.

If the Panthers were the Marlins, they would have decimated the team after the Vegas Stanley Cup season. It can work Bruce Sherman, but you have to sell it and get the heck out of Dodge.

NHL has a functioning salary cap that lets the Panthers realistically compete year in year out for starts

33 minutes ago, WillyumKeef said:

NHL has a functioning salary cap that lets the Panthers realistically compete year in year out for starts

Just because there's a cap doesn't mean you have to spend to it. They could easily take the Bruce approach and sit back, sign nobody and watch checks come in, and wonder why nobody shows up.

But they don't, and it's having success on the "field" (2 consecutive cups) and off the "field" via sold out arenas, playoff revenue, merchandise, etc. etc.

So sure, there's a salary cap, but that's not an excuse.

9 hours ago, rmc523 said:

I'll take the bait.

I said above, spend, bring in the best, evaluate well, trade well, sign well, etc. 3 consecutive Final appearances with 2 consecutive wins says they're doing it right.

Marlins do none of that, and haven't for a long time, and aren't anywhere near it either.

No one is arguing that the owner is a big part of the problem here. There is really nothing we can do about that and I don't think anyone has ever said a good word, myself included, or would shed a tear if Sherman sold the team tomorrow. That is the problem with the spend part of the equation. The Panthers are pretty much bang league average as far as salaries (the Marlins are not close) and the NHL cap and MLB lack of one create an issue as far as there are no super teams in hockey a la the Dodgers, Mets, Yankees.

As for "bringing in the best", evaluating well, trading well, signing well. etc. that is the secret sauce and the crux of the problem. Given our budget constraints, we need to hit home runs in these areas. We seem to have upgraded in the front office, allocating international assets and the scouting department. But every team is trying to do the same thing and we have failed miserably in these areas in the past as well as been cheap.

Looking through the Panthers franchise history, they had very limited success up until around 2020 and have been elite since then. So I'm curious what changed in the immediate time period before 2020 and/or after that has allowed them to be so successful? And how can the Marlins replicate that?