March 11, 200422 yr At least Beckett had the balls to pitch on three days rest when his team needed him - unlike that b***h, Jason Schmidt, who didn't take the mound when Felipe needed him. :hat :lol :lol *still waiting for Schmidt's awesome Game 5 outing*
March 11, 200422 yr At least Beckett had the balls to pitch on three days rest when his team needed him - unlike that b***h, Jason Schmidt, who didn't take the mound when Felipe needed him. :hat he wasn't even asked
March 11, 200422 yr i don't understand how beckett? has one fluke outing and everyone overates him now yeah 2.11 postseason ERA, not to mention an ERA of 2.50 in the 2nd half of the season. what a fluke. 2-2 in the postseason. That's what matters OK, no it doesn't you f***ing moron. Here are two reasons why your arguement is lower than the toilet paper I used to whipe my ass after I take a s***. A) Win-Loss record means S.H.I.T. Want to know why? Because they have more to do with your team's offense then with the pitcher himself. Who is the better pitcher, the one that throws a two hitter and loses the game 1-0 or the one that gives up 7 runs on 15 hits but wins 9-7? I think the answer is pretty obvious. B) Hmm, postseason record of 2-2 ehh? Well, what's Sabathia's? Yeah, thought so. For that matter, what's Schmidt's? How many World Series MVPs does he have? Yeah, thought so.
March 11, 200422 yr A. A really good pitcher only gives up 7 runs when his team scores 8 or more. A win is a win, and that's what matters. ERA is mainly reliant on the teams defense and the ballpark. The Marlins have a much better defense than Cleveland and play in a much easier park for pitchers. B. Schmidt is 3-1 in the postseason (his team is 5-1 in games he starts) and that only loss was because of manny aybar), Sabathia is 1-0
March 11, 200422 yr So, by your logic, Sabathia blows, because Beckett has more wins in the playoffs! And I cannot believe you are going to take a pitcher that gives up 7 runs and wins over a pitcher that gives up 2 hits and loses. Any credibility you had with anyone else probably died right there.
March 11, 200422 yr potential means nothing. Beckett's got the talent but he doesn't get the job done enough. Quote of the day, or Quote of the Year?
March 11, 200422 yr So, by your logic, Sabathia blows, because Beckett has more wins in the playoffs! And I cannot believe you are going to take a pitcher that gives up 7 runs and wins over a pitcher that gives up 2 hits and loses. Any credibility you had with anyone else probably died right there. ERA is a lot more reliant on defense and the ballpark than W-L record is reliant on the offense
March 11, 200422 yr fluke shmook, who battled your boy Schmidt in game 1 pitch for pitch? come on you cant be that one sided to not give him ANY respect...
March 11, 200422 yr fluke shmook, who battled your boy Schmidt in game 1 pitch for pitch? come on you cant be that one sided to not give him ANY respect... Beckett's as talented as anyone and there's a good chance he will be star, but he's still unproven
March 11, 200422 yr well he is our "Unproven" ace and he has a ring... Until he can play a full season without getting injured and win 15 games at least, he's still unproven. and to show you an example of how meaningless WS MVP is, remember who it was the last time you guys won a world series.
March 11, 200422 yr well he is our "Unproven" ace and he has a ring... Until he can play a full season without getting injured and win 15 games at least, he's still unproven. no argument here
March 11, 200422 yr so now Livan hasnt proven to be a good pitcher either? come on buddy, i know fans are biased but jeez.
March 11, 200422 yr Schmidt 86 career wins Livan 84 career wins now i am not comparing the two because Schmidt is a far greater pitcher in my opinion but Livan is no bust. so your argument holds no grounds...
March 11, 200422 yr This ranking had nothing to do with who was proven. It was strictly a ranking of the best pitchers under 25. If it had anything to do with being proven Edwin Jackson would not be on the list.
March 12, 200422 yr seriously, one fluke outing and all of a sudden he's one of the best? yea, hes a fluke alright. i guess being the #2 overall pick was also a fluke , and hitting 99 MPH was a fluke , and putting his balls on the table and winning in the biggest stages of baseball was a fluke all i gotta say is, its amazing how how the pieces fall into the puzzle :o
March 12, 200422 yr so now Livan hasnt proven to be a good pitcher either? come on buddy, i know fans are biased but jeez. Livo= garbage. He's the kind of pitcher that when you find out he's pitching for your team, your reaction is oh s***, that's a loss
March 12, 200422 yr so now Livan hasnt proven to be a good pitcher either? come on buddy, i know fans are biased but jeez. Livo= garbage. He's the kind of pitcher that when you find out he's pitching for your team, your reaction is oh s***, that's a loss yet he's averaged almost 15 wins a year over the last 4 years. :mischief2
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