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Uncle Leo

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  1. That's what we're all hoping for bud. But apparently Grandal was also asking for 4-5 years at 18-20 per year. He turned down 4 yrs /60M from the Mets a month ago. So maybe they were also just waiting for his price to drop or didn't think the money made any sense for him. Regardless it's one less option on the board, without removing a suitor in the JT race.
  2. Worked out very well that it wasn't one of the Astros, Doyers or Braves that got Grandal. Very well indeed.
  3. The fact of the matter is that the Marlins want a top prospect so that 1) they don't look like a-holes again aka yelich trade 2) to shed the Marlins label as pushovers when it comes to trades 3) best way for us to actually start competing in 2-3 years - because at the end of the day, the owners and everyone else know that they won't get butts in the seats until this team actually shows something, consistently may I add. We have no idea what's being offered. We DO know for a fact teams aren't offering their best prospect along with fillers, because then it would've been done by now. We DON'T know what kind of offers are being sent our way, if they're yelich type offers (solid but not great, which some here seem to be implying we should accept again) or garbage low-ball offers. So if there is only one known factor and the rest are unknown.... Shouldn't we be giving the benefit of the doubt to the marlins? especially since it's the more beneficial one? And the more Machado and Bryce keep asking for 400M over 10yrs, the more a team might just be like, fuck it lets get JT and move on. A domino needs to fall, that's for sure. Everyone playing the waiting game.
  4. No settling. The Orioles got for half a season of Machado, 5 prospects from the Dodgers. 4 of them are currently listed at their 1st, 16th, 22nd and 26th best - http://m.mlb.com/prospects/2018?list=bal Yusniel Diaz, the centerpiece of the trade and who's currently 1st for them is 52nd overall in top 100. Even if we keep JT all year and he only has one year left next offseason. In terms of WAR, a year of JT is more valuable than half a year of Machado. JT is about 4-5, Manny has consistently been around 6. I'm sure teams are flooding us with deals similar to that one or something like what we got for Yelich and we're not biting and I'm fully behind it. Give us better bait if you want these Fish to bite.
  5. Yea, Jack is my Bro. I'm your uncle. Not going to be all cliche and say that I'm your father. Also, this! Roto: According to Craig Mish of SiriusXM, the Braves and Marlins "have talked again" about a J.T. Realmuto trade. Mish writes that the Braves "appear to be waiting [the] Marlins out" while adding that the Rays "remain possibility." There is also known to be some level of interest from the Dodgers, Padres, Astros, and Reds. Realmuto seems certain to be dealt before spring training gets underway, but it's hard to identify a frontrunner for his services at this point. Miami still wants a massive return for the 27-year-old catcher, who batted .277/.340/.484 with 21 home runs and 74 RBI over 125 games last season. He is under contractual control through 2020.
  6. Nationals going to keep Bryce, Phillies going to sign Machado and Dodgers are going to freak out and decide to make a move on JT which will wake up Astros and then one of them will pay up as they duke it out for Realmuto.
  7. Feel like teams are behaving much like the fans, they just don't want to give in to the Marlins. I honestly feel it's comparable to looking for a suit for work at Saks or Bloomingdales and then you find the perfect Hugo Boss suit at Marshalls that's priced cheaper than what you saw at the other places, but since it's Marshall's you still refuse to pay for it because you want it even cheaper. Stupid analogy but didn't know how else to explain it. Also did you see what the Brewers just got for Keon Broxton from the Mets? The GM for the Brewers out here fleecing people in these trades, amazing...
  8. I much rather cough up a couple prospects and get JT than saddle myself with a player making 350-400M over 10 years like Bryce and Manny are holding out for. That's insanity to me. The long-term repercussions of a deal like that if it backfires are terrible. So risky. I'll never understand teams shelling out fair-market value deals for a player for the first half of the deal and then overpaying them exorbitantly on the back-end. This is all agent driven, if I was an owner I'd drop out and leave them in the cold. Once again, makes a player of Yelich's level and contract ever more so valuable... There's no chance we extend JT. Unless we keep him and we have a miraculous season and we're somehow sort of competing at the trade deadline and he's in a great mood and loves his teammates and then we extend him. But that would mean finding another 2-3 Brian Anderson's and all our prospects playing at their ceiling. 1% shot of something like that happening.
  9. Kind of hoping the Dodgers miss out on both Manny and Bryce and they feel the need to make a move and splash trade and trade for JT. If they trade away Puig, Wood, Kemp and don't land either of Bryce, JT or Machado, seems like a step-back to me. Or maybe they sign Bryce, and then and only then, do they pull the trigger on sending us Verdugo and some other pieces for JT. Verdugo could certainly make the Yelich departure sting less. Think them resigning Manny is worst case for us and it would be Astros or bust at that point. Surprised Boston never threw their hats in the ring, even if they are coming off a WS win.
  10. There's gold in them thar tweets.
  11. I never saw any mention of the Marlins asking for TWO elite prospects, which to me doesn't necessarily mean 2 top prospects of a teams top 5, but 2 prospects that are in a teams top 5 but also ranked top 50 by rankings/scouts etc. If the Marlins ask for 2 or 3 prospects from a teams top 5 or top 10 and their farm blows, that's not on us nor does it make those prospects elite. That's on the team trying to trade for JT with a shitty farm. That I can totally see have happened. But I never saw the Marlins ask for Acuna or Tucker or Whitley or Bellinger AND another guy of that ilk. It's usually been one top 'cant miss' stud, but we all know that doesn't exist by now but the closest thing to it, and then another pretty solid talented prospect and then some lottery tickets/filler. Other teams are wanting to give us 2-3 solid talented prospects and fillers, kinda like what we gave up for yelich. Which I get. Which is the main argument here. But we can get that later. So you stick to your guns. We goin' in circles folks. You either agree or disagree with the Marlins stance (and that's fine), but to not understand it or at least see why they're doing it, is the opposite of the word smart.
  12. Agreed. If all we're getting offered are the type of returns we got for Ozuna or Stanton then I'm confident we can still get that type of return even when there are less suitors or before the trade deadline. There's no reason to not wait and hold out and hope someone pulls the trigger and gives us a top prospect. JT is absolutely worth it and any team rumored to get him has the funds to sign him long-term. If you read the comments on twitter it's basically a bunch of fans from all the teams rumored to be interested saying some version of how the Marlins got a bad deal in the Stanton or Yelich trades so why are they being so hard to deal with now, should just accept what they're being offered. Sports fans are so dumb sometimes, they're basically answering their own question. If we wanted another mediocre haul, we can do it whenever the eff we want. Pay up or shut up. Fortunately there are actually a few fans that realize how good JT really is. I think we get something done with Dodgers or Astors at the end of the day.
  13. Rotoworld - Jon Morosi of MLB Network reports the Astros and Marlins are still in touch regarding a potential J.T Realmuto swap. The Marlins are demanding either pitcher Forrest Whitley or outfielder Kyle Tucker to headline the return package and the Astros are not willing to part with either of them. Both Whitley and Tucker are consensus top-10 prospects in all of baseball and both are on the cusp of the major leagues. The Astros signed backstop Robinson Chirinos to a one-year, $5.75 million contract last month to replace Brian McCann, who left as a free agent and signed with the Braves. They would surely be happy to slide Chirinos into a backup role if they are able to snag Realmuto to be their starter. The Padres, Dodgers, Reds and Rays are also known to have negotiated with the Marlins regarding Realmuto in recent weeks.
  14. So basically prospects fail more often than expected, especially ones that are traded. Because there's an information gap (if the player is so amazing, why would the team trade them unless they know or suspect something) and also there's the human element that sometimes everything is going great and then all of a sudden as a young adult you're yanked out of your comfort zone and friends and coaches and playing on another team with bigger expectations surrounded by strangers. I think it's more the first than the second but as an athlete (different sport however) there's definitely a physiological angle to all of this. Basically this just makes trading someone like Yelich completely unforgivable unless you're getting a haul back you couldn't possibly say no. Another thing it points out which I think we already know, when teams know that another teams scouting department has a hard-on for certain types of players, (I almost felt like they were talking about the Marlins when they started talking about big pitchers that bring the heat and throw fiery fastballs) teams will entice them with players in that mold that they know have other weaknesses that they've identified and believe said team doesn't know yet and will try moving them to that team to get most out of it.
  15. Having a burn it down philosophy also allows you to play more guys that have some potential or flashed it, that normally would never see the field on a better team. It's how you hope to find the next Dan Uggla type guy or it's how you let guys like Brian Anderson surprise you with all those AB's and become a consistent known commodity and future piece of the team moving forward. We need to keep allotting and using our international bonus pool money and making the best possible draft picks without paying mind to the player wanting more than his draft slot, something alluded to before by Lou. And sometimes you get surprises from Rule 5 drafts but you also get surprises from within the organization, some players will develop more than expected, just need to get a little lucky. Hopefully things will come together. And then maybe in 2020-2021 we can hope to make a trade like the Reds just made with the Dodgers or sign some FA's of our own.
  16. Usually 4-6 with an emphasis on going on the bobblehead days. But didn't go to any last year.
  17. Some were saying now that the Dodgers have additional international pool money and 2 solid prospects from the deal with the Reds, they would be more willing to part with prospects of their own or flip the guys they just got as part of a deal, to land a guy like JT and that prospects would be more attractive to a team like the Marlins unlike a guy like Puig or Wood in the last year of their arbitration before they got paid because we're still a few years away and likely wouldn't be able to resign them.
  18. Woah Homer Bailey is making 23M in 2019 and 25M in 2020... are the Dodgers even saving any money with this deal? Plus Dodgers are sending 7M to the Reds to cover Kemp's salary... I'm so confused. So the Dodgers gave up Kemp (21.5M), Alex Wood (Arb 3 - 8-10M?), Puig (Arb 3 - 9-10M?) so let's say 30-32M... But are getting back two solid prospects ... but also giving up 7M and taking on Homer bailey and his 23M... so basically it's a wash cash wise. So the Dodgers gave up a year of Puig and Wood at around 9-10M for two prospects and international pool money.
  19. https://www.fantraxhq.com/2019-top-25-cincinnati-reds-prospects/ INF Jeter Downs was ranked 5th in the Reds farm and RHP Josiah Gray the 15th. Dodgers are getting some prospects and freeing up some serious cash to make a run at someone like Harper or Machado seems like.
  20. It's very possible a team like Houston is taking long to commit until they can speak with JT to negotiate a long-term deal with him before they pull the trigger on a trade. Question is whether Marlins are making him available to speak to other teams.
  21. I think there are two problems here. Some are overvaluing the worth of a player like Stanton and his contract. We had him during what very well could have been his prime years and by far cheapest part of his deal. He could have singlehandedly sunk this team from 2021-2027 making 30M and being a .250 avg .700 OPS hurt often type of slugger. Look at how bad that Pujols deal was and that guy was a perennial MVP. We actually got prospects out of it due to Stanton being younger than when Pujols signed that ginormous deal. Ozuna deal wasn't great either but he has some Puig type headache's hurting his value. And the other problem, to add to that is that we haven't hit the nail on the head on a trade since 2005. So some people are upset and being biased that we needed more, but that's not really the problem. Perceived value wise we did fine at the time. The issue is we're terrible at identifying prospects that will actually turn into anything. And yea, there's no defending the Yelich trade. He was young, cheap, a gold glover and we should only have traded him away if we were getting a guy that was MLB ready and already a beast, like a Kyle Tucker or Vlad Guerrero type prospect. I think that's why the Marlins are holding on tight to JT, they finally need a can't miss prospect. Not since we traded away Beckett and Lowell and Mota for Hanley Ramirez and Anibal Sanchez have we been able to make a good trade. Miguel Cabrera trade was garbage. Traded away what was probably the best pure hitter in the league during the next decade along with Pujols for a mediocre OF in Maybin and Miller and we weren't even smart enough to try him in the bullpen where he eventually became one of the best in the game. We traded away guys like Descalfani and Eovaldi for nothing. We gave up Eovaldi for fuckin' Martin Prado who's killing us value wise the past few years and we kept extending him which might have been the worst extensions ever. Only saving grace was that Phelps was a throw in in that deal and he turned out better than expected. The Dee Gordon trade was solid. We gave up a bunch of prospects for Jarred Cosart only for him to flame out and then bundled him with very good pitchers Luis Castillo and recovering Capps for Cashner. Another dumpster fire. The issue is that from Chen to Heath Bell and all these trades, I can keep going. I think we all just miss the NEXT group of players. Where is the future Stanton or Yelich? When is the last time we made a trade and two years later we were like, wow we killed them in that trade. I'm not complaining about the theory behind all of it, I'm 100% with it, I'm just questioning the execution. They obviously need more time, these prospects don't become stars from one year to the next, but our moves from 2014-2017 were complete failures. Let's hope with time we start hitting on some of these trades and we feel differently.
  22. Maybe Conley or giving up someone else along with JT would allow us to get a 2nd piece like Martin, James or J.B. but if this is J.T. for players, I don't see a 2nd piece of that caliber coming along with Tucker. Funny enough Nova originally signed with the Marlins before being busted for PED's and then being released only to be picked up the following year by the Astros for 1.2M... So I think it's clear the Marlins scouted him and like him. I could see something along the lines of Tucker, Nova, Stubbs and a random arm like Bielak or Schroeder getting this done. If the Astros at any point had been accepting of the idea of trading Tucker plus a quality arm like Martin or James plus some farm fodder, this deal would've already been done.
  23. I thought this was going to be a thread about a bat problem inside the stadium. Would've been sick.
  24. The issue with Bour is that the arbitration process overvalues a guy that hits home runs and not much else. People keep talking about how he's under control for two more years but in arbitration (after making 3.4M this year) he'd get 5M in 2019? Probably 6-7M in 2020. If he was a free agent would someone give him USD 5-7M? He's not good on defense, he's slow as balls in terms of base running. His K rate is up. He's 30 and his numbers are down across the board. But on the other hand, even in a down year the guy is still sporting an .835 OPS vs R handed pitching. His career BABIP is .295 and it's .267 this year. And he's usually OK on defense. Just seems like a very unlucky/bad type of season. I think he'd be very serviceable and valuable to an AL team to play 1B/DH against RHP and bench guy. He can't stay in Philly because of Santana but if the Rockies get him, watch him put up a .850+ OPS the next two years if used the right way. I don't blame the Marlins moving him, we have no use long-term for a 30 year old stud platoon type player. The guy is coming off a 2.2 WAR season where he batted .900 in pitcher friendly Marlins Park. I'm just surprised a team like COL or an AL team wasn't more interested and seemingly everyone is thinking this is him regressing and he'll just get worse and not that he's still very capable of contributing to a team, which I think he very much is.
  25. Honestly I don't really know how to feel about this trade. Think we sold pretty low on him but we'll see how he does with the Phillies. We have no power in this lineup now... not that it matters. Guess he just wasn't in our plans long-term. And hefty power first basemen don't usually get better in their 30's so... maybe this really was the time to cut bait. I still think we would've been better off hoping for a rebound and trading him in the offseason or before the deadline next year. But oh well.
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