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Uncle Leo

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  1. Not worried about the wins. Would like to see Chen return to form so he can either contribute long-term or get traded away. Similarly hopeful players like Prado, Straily, Ziegler, Tazawa and Maybin have a solid first half and can get flipped for players. Even if 3 of those 5 get flipped, I would consider that great. Would actually prefer to hold on to Bour and JT unless we get blown away and have to take the deal. Would also like to see Conley and Rojas improve and grow and see some solid performances in our young OF in the 2nd half. Solid draft where we don't worry about signing bonuses and larger pool for intl free agents and signing someone like Pablo Martinez or of his caliber in July when the next period would also be great.
  2. Ichiro is effin' 44 years old. Zero power. His best possible season would still be equivalent to an expected/bad season by Maybin being that it'd be with an OPS of around .650-.680. At least Maybin is 30, can play all OF spots and has speed on his side, and can crank 8-12 HRs in a season. If he can put up a season like he did in 2016 with Detroit, which is a possibility because again he's 30 and not 44, he would have some trade value. Are we paying more for Maybin that we would've for Ichiro? I'd be very surprised if not. But isn't this exactly what we wanted? Sign a veteran player to a one year deal that could potentially be traded for value before the trade deadline before we call up our youngsters while not messing up with their service years?
  3. Signing Arrieta or Darvish along with a Vargas or Lynn type player could very well get us to the playoffs. Chen could return to form. Strailey stays solid. Bour stays healthy all year and you have a legit top 10 offense. You can also argue that with what we have right now Chen returns to his Orioles day form, Strailey improves, we unearth the next dontrelle Willis and surprises abound with our offense and young OF’ers and led by a 40 HR season by Bour and JT and Rojas improve and Ziegler becomes the next surprising veteran in a long line of them for the marlins to turn in a career year. See where I’m going with this? You can’t know for sure. No one here can say any of this for a fact because players regress, they get injured, they die (yikes). The marlins are doing the most likely scenario for building an affordable lasting competitive team with depth. No one can or should argue against that. Hopefully that’s really their goal. The rest is all second guessing and pretending you’re Marty McFly and you came from the future.
  4. More than that, do you think anyone would really want that number any time soon? I think a plaque somewhere in the stadium sounds about right. It's a tricky situation for Jeter. Do nothing or too little and he's cold and Marlins don't care. Do too much and you think he might be overcompensating for something and irk the people upset about the death of 2 others and DUI situation, etc.
  5. Well, you're being kind because the last 3 years combined WAR (aka his time as a Marlin) is actually +.6. So yes, 2 out of the 3 years with us, Ichiro had a negative WAR season. I understand some have an emotional attachment to him and it's Ichiro and all but still baffles me why anyone would want the Marlins to sign him. He's 44 and a lock for .620-.680 OPS type season meaning absolutely no one would want to trade for him at the deadline. He'd be blocking the potential development of a guy like Braxton Lee or Van Slyke. I much rather just plug in some random AAA OF prospect running out of time and hope we get lucky and find the next Cody Ross or Justin Bour or Dan Uggla. Or signing a guy like Jon Jay who could have a solid season and be a trade chip. He needs to go back and play in Japan for a year or two where it all started and retire then.
  6. First time I read this topic I thought "wait, we built a sculpture of Jeter?" I don't hate the HR sculpture, but I definitely don't love it either. Given it's location tough to know what would be feasible or work logistically. A fake beach with the marlin dancers sunbathing in bikinis would be chill. And then every time there's a HR they get up and start dancing and Billy the Marlin starts shooting shirts out of the air cannon Rambo style. I'd be down for that.
  7. Adeiny got us Braxton Lee and Ethan Clark. Before the Yelich trade they were rated as our 13th and 33rd best prospects (so they'll be moved down a bit in an updated one) http://prospects1500.com/top-50-lists/miami-marlins-2018-top-50-prospects/ And Braxton Lee could very well be in our OF at some point this year or even starting things out depending how the Marlins decide to go with veteran FA signings. And at the time Adeiny was making 4.35MM so we wanted to dump that salary and did so on the Rays. Adeiny WAR history - 2014 + .3 / 2015 + 3.1 / 2016 +.5 and in 2017 had a combined +1.3 between us and the Rays. 2015 was his best offensive and defensive season and he seemed to be putting it all together but in 2016 he had his worst offensive season. Rojas WAR history - 2014 for the Dodgers +.3 and then with the Marlins 2015 +.8 / 2016 +.1 / 2017 +1.4 Of course he has far less at bats than Adeiny and small sample size but Rojas had a very respectable batting line of .290/.361/.375 over the 2017 season and anytime you can get a guy with an OPS over .700 playing SS with a good glove, that's VERY valuable. And he's about to make USD 1.2MM this year with two more arbitration years of control. Maybe he doesn't have the name recognition that Adeiny had but in terms of actual baseball value/WAR and money. You could argue that he's even more valuable than Adeiny. But to confirm this, he needs more at bats and be an everyday player.
  8. Think it would be interesting to add Wieters and Tazawa to this deal. We'd eat 3M in salary but get a veteran catcher to help our pitchers and we need someone playing back there. And heck, he could have a resurgence and get traded himself later on in the season. And maybe with that 3M in savings the Nats would maybe feel better about parting ways with Soto and Kieboom. I just don't see them trading Robles to us at any point. Y'all wouldn't be ok with getting Wieters+Kieboom+Soto+Fedde (taking on 3.5MM in the process) for JT Realmuto+Tazawa? Nats might think that's far too rich for them. Fangraphs stipulated that the offer so far on the table is Kieboom and Fedde for JT which I agree is not enough. Same article also mentioned how in 2016 Jonathan Lucroy and his 1.5 years left on his deal was enough to get a top 30 prospect and some others. How is 3 years of JT in his prime not worth more? Just gotta sit tight and hold on to your butts.
  9. Apparently when Jeter told him to jump, he couldn’t jump high enough, so he fired him.
  10. What about Matt Holiday? Sure his defense would be horrendous but would we care? Could let him get at bats at 1B against some lefties and occasionally in LF as a 4th OF and hope an AL team signs him as a DH or takes a chance on him in 1B/LF? He killed it in the 1st half last year but then fell off a cliff. Now at 38, maybe if he was rested often he could sustain his numbers. He's had zero interest so far, shouldn't be hard to sign him.
  11. Rooting for a 2nd team is lame. That's why there's more than one sport. Even got the World Cup this year and Miami FC on the way. And there's porn. Pet puppies. Meditate. Play Call of Duty. Do anything other than follow a 2nd team really.
  12. I remember Stanton being 'upset' with the future of the Marlins and the tight purse strings, but he saw Loria open up the checkbook and progress with young developing guys like himself and he signed. Realmuto just lost several friends and teammates, if he wants to be upset, I get it. But like others have mentioned, getting a legit franchise catcher is very difficult. And having a guy entering his prime being the face of your franchise like Buster Posey has been for the Giants and mentoring/assisting your young pitchers is a very good thing to have. I'm sure his mood and attitude toward the team will change by year end when some of our promising prospects start getting called up and he builds relationships with these guys. But if someone wants to unload top prospects on us, so be it.
  13. I wouldn't make a big deal out of where they signed. Their new teams are all paying as little as possible knowing that the Marlins will pay the rest until it reaches the USD 3MM. I'm sure they all had a couple offers but they chose to go to teams with better rosters and in contention because there was no need to chase money. No one was going to offer them more than USD 3MM which it would take to get the Marlins off the hook so they'd make the same amount no matter where they landed. They just picked the best situation and ignored the money part. And the winning organizations can now slot these guys into less important roles. It's a win win for both of them. But to spin this as a , "Wow Marlins fired exec's and now they all landed in better places because they're awesome and Marlins were dumb to do it" is a stupid way to put it. Money wasn't a factor in any of it. Which is a big deal when it comes to employment so. Take it with a grain of salt. Just another obnoxious blub spun a certain way to make the Marlins look bad.
  14. Haha damn... I swear I originally meant it to be a one paragraph reply and then I just couldn't stop typing. I blame Snoke for meddling with my feelings and showing me the strength of the dark side.
  15. You telling me Benicio's role and the whole casino planet wasn't political enough for you talking about how war is a money machine and everyone is at fault? Also strong female characters everywhere; Rey with very little training is strong af with the force, Leia commanding the rebels and when she's in a comma Vice Admiral Holdo takes over and even the commander of the storm troopers Captain Phasma was that tall chick from GoT. Meanwhile all the men are having temper tantrums, crises of faith, selling out the rebels for money, being rescued or bettered by their female counterparts. Benecio's character was complete garbage, that stutter was jar jar-esque. Also the whole "Let's go to a planet to find the one person in the entire galaxy that can help us only to get arrested and end up in a cell with another guy that just so happens to have the same skills" was so bad it hurts to think about. Also when DJ (Benecio) sells out the rebels to the First Order... how the eff did he know they were escaping? How did he know to run that scan? "Sir the information he provided us was accurate" or whatever they said. How did he even know about it? He wasn't made aware of it or in on it, it was straight up decided by Leia and Holdo and yet he single handedly figures it out and sells information? No one ever told Finn or Rose about that plan and they sure as hell didn't tell DJ. And don't even get me started on the side romance of Finn and Rose. Awful. Although Natalie Portman and Hayden's chemistry would make my skin crawl with how bad it was. Finn trying to sacrifice himself by kamikaze'ing the cannon after everyone had turned around (they did an aerial shot showing everyone turn around) and yet somehow Rose comes back and hits him from the side to rescue him? And then delivers that awfully cheesy one liner and faints. And then Finn freakin' drags her how far? Like a mile or two back to the cave entrance like nothing happened and no one blasted them or captured them? Episodes 4-6 were great and the whole world and concept of Star Wars is great, which is why we keep giving it so many passes. But Rogue One is actually my favorite Star Wars movie, BY FAR, not counting those originals. Episode 7 was solid. This 8th episode was just a huge fucking let down. It was horrendous. But it's Star Wars... I mean did no one read over the story and think maybe it was fucking stupid and bad? But hey at least we have more Princess Leia to look forward to using the force out of nowhere even though she's dead in real life. When she got blasted into outerspace, would've actually been a solid death scene, instead they just piled on the shit and ridiculousness.
  16. And for Fish20, considering how teams don't want to spend money on huge deals for these aging players; look at Pujols and now Miguel Cabrera etc... It would make sense for the Yelich market to heat up fast. And it makes sense for all types of teams. Maybe teams like the Brewers and Braves are still a couple years away from competing but with Yelich and another 1-2 years they could get there. And they'd control Yelich cheaply the whole time. Our best case scenario we'd start competing during Yelich's last year and then he'd be in for another big contract. So he's a fit for big market teams that want to save and spend on others or stay competitive while getting under luxury tax and are close to winning now and he's also a fit for teams 1-2 years away from winning. He pretty much is a fit for anyone except for the Marlins now that I think about it...
  17. This is great news. Anyone that wants him will have to up their offer and get serious about bidding for his services. Any names you'd love/demand to have come back in a trade for Yelich? Brewers just had 6 prospects land in the top 100 for BA and 3 of them are OF. Would make some sense to get at least one of them in return. If we're demanding Robles in any trade, one would think we'd demand Brinson in any package. There's also this - https://www.brewcrewball.com/2018/1/21/16917150/milwaukee-brewers-are-close-to-making-a-trade-per-report They could just be sending out feelers to several teams and see who seems the most flexible and interested in making a deal. Regardless if this is just MIL testing the waters, it helps brew up interest in Yelich and get teams bidding and this could be the start of a snowball effect.
  18. Signing a guy like Ziegler that pitches to contact and is a groundball maestro when you have one of the best defenses in baseball (if not the best) and in a pitchers park is not a bad move to make. I'm not going to argue that having a guy that K's everyone isn't better or more fun, but in strict baseball talk and efficiency and considering what we had, it wasn't a bad move. I'm strictly defending Ziegler and his career and the reasoning behind it. Not defending how close we were to contention or if it was a good deal money wise.
  19. For all we know the Marlins met with players or at least their representatives and it was a very cordial meeting along the lines of Jeter - "sup" Castro/Castro Rep - "sup" Jeter - "we're trying to get Castro moved but just waiting for right parts and deal" Castro/Rep - "ok good, I was going to mention I/he didn't want to be here for a rebuild. Just wanted to confirm with you... Can I grab some ribs?" Jeter - "yea man, we catered from flanigans" Castro/Rep - "oh sick, I love flanigans" And then someone (Rosenthal) talks to the agent or rep or someone in the Marlins and they're like "Yea Castro asked to be traded" just kind of matter of fact and it becomes this whole diva type issue. And as Lou mentioned, this leaking doesn't help the agent/player and it doesn't help the Marlins because we have a bad rep we need to change so teams will low ball us even more now. It's going to get to the point that we might need to hold on to players through the trade deadline because teams just expect us to cough up players to shed salary and will lowball us. Hopefully they'll realize that's not the case and give a real offer. But unlike the Realmuto/Yelich discussion, that they're worth building around like Cubs did with Rizzo or Astros with Altuve, etc ... there is zero reason to hold on to Castro so I hope this gets done. Between his contract and the fact that he's never worn our uniform, hope it gets done before the season starts.
  20. Well you could definitely be on to something about Hech and Stanton's stance correlation. Hech was traded June 26th... Stanton's OPS in June .873 / July 1.138 / August 1.482 - an amazing upward trend. Marlins are also 32-23 since trading away Hech but if you remove the 13-3 win streak since the team sale announcement, it becomes an subpar 19-20. Hech wasn't worth keeping around and obviously Stanton is a beast now and is helping carry the load the way we always thought he was capable of. But I think it's a combination of a mood around the clubhouse since the sale, Stanton beasting it and our SP's performing less terrible. I've honestly always felt like our offense would be at it's best if we had tried Gordon at SS, Prado at 2B and signed a 3B with some actual pop but no idea how that would actually play out. I know defensively it would suffer but I felt like the extra offense would more than compensate the moves. We just have so little power in our infield with Bour out and between our 2B, SS, 3B. That's always what I felt held us back from becoming a good offensive team. Having a top ten avg but being near the bottom in runs scored. This year we're 4th in avg and 15th in runs. Last year we were also 4th in avg and 27th in runs scored. The difference? Slugging %. 2017 we're 14th in slugging (15th in runs) and last year 27th Slugging (27th in runs). I'm going way off topic so I'll just end that there. And the reason our slugging is so high this year is mainly due to Ozuna and Stanton's power surge and they win us games single handedly with homers. Just think our lineup would be much more potent with a bopper at 3rd belting 25-30 HR's a season for us instead of Prado.
  21. This team is winning despite the trades mainly because Stanton has a 1.482 OPS for the month of August. Maybe if the new ownership knew Stanton would continue his metamorphosis into Barry Bonds they would've been more adamant to ask current ownership to keep rather than trade away assets to lower payroll. Although trading players and adding to the farm system was probably a dual decision but I have no idea if one party was more eager to do so than the other between Loria or Jeter and Co Did anyone here really think there was a chance we'd go 13-3 since August 11th? Monday morning quarterbacking is easy. Edit: despite trades of Phelps and Ramos, don't really care about Hech.
  22. Something else to think about (I didn't read all the posts so if someone argued this already, my bad), what if he had survived the accident and through questioning or guilt/remorse or story not fitting let's say he came clean and said he was driving the boat. Or if only one friend died and the other friend and Jose lived and it came out Jose was driving and they took his blood for alcohol/drug testing. Where would he be right now? On trial? Jail? He'd absolutely be suspended and his career tarnished. It would be brought up every once in a while and be extremely awkward. But he died so now he's this giant victim? I think he made a mistake, as we all make mistakes, so I'm cool with the well wishes he's gotten so far. But I don't understand this demi-god treatment he's been getting for pitching the equivalent of 2 1/2 full seasons (as dominant as he was) and being fiery. Just some food for thought for those wanting a statue on top of everything else he's gotten already.
  23. We can all agree that we loved Jose as a player and miss his energy, charisma and performance/dominance. He was an ace and a great guy for the community, obviously being in South Florida the importance was far greater. I think the Marlins have done enough as it is. The renamed a thoroughfare next to the stadium after him, they wore a #16 badge since his passing and all of this season, have a large orange type memorial outside the stadium with his number and plaque that people can sign and write on, he was celebrated during the ASG and multiple other games. http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/miami-dade/article111791532.html http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/mlb/miami-marlins/article160701204.html Considering the way he went out and the duration of his career I think a statue is way too much. I loved the guy and when the news hit I was in shock but he was drunk and on drugs and two other people died during the accident and he's been honored and celebrated plenty. He has 38 wins and 471 IP and he died during a cocaine fueled boating accident. None of that is statue worthy, not even close. We don't even know if the Marlins would've resigned the guy, Loria is just being a weirdo about this.
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