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  1. OPS+ is not adjusted for era. It is adjusted against that player's league for that year.
  2. I've said why. He had contemporaries who were as good as him (even if they didn't have as many counting stats), he wasn't a great fielder (plus played a 1/4 of his games at DH), he was, essentially finished at 33. Simply false. (See my post above from baseball library) As for his defense, he actually was a solid fielder. Rice's career range factor was 2.10, Evans' was 2.11. Rice's career total of Fielding Runs, as calculated by Total Baseball, was 71; Evans' was 76. Rice threw out a baserunner once every 11.3 games he played in the outfield; Evans did so once every 13.7 games. Rice isn't as good as Evans, but he was damn fine when he was in the field. He was a great player. But he simply doesn't have the longevity. Again, how is being the best hitter in your league for over a decade not longevity? Rice has the same OPS+ (I emphasize that this is park, era, and league adjusted) as John Olerud, Tim Salmon, Moises Alou, JD Drew, Jimmy Wynn, and Ryan Klesko. None of whom are bad players, but probably none of whom are HOFers. In the history of the American League, the era in which Rice played represents some of the lowest average batting totals of the Live Ball era. If we rank all 101 American League seasons by the OPS figure that led the league, 12 of the 16 seasons in which Rice played finish in the bottom third. If a player hit 39 homers or drove in 125 runs in any season of Rice's career, chances were that they were going to lead the American League. Do you know how many times each of those figures would have led the league since he retired? Excluding the 1994 strike year, it's happened just once, when Cecil Fielder had 124 RBI in 1992. What are your thoughts on guys like McGwire, Belle, or Juan Gonzalez? Don't know if I have any or even care. Nor have I thought about their candidacy as much as I have about Rice's. I do know that none of them were the best hitter in their league's for over a decade though. I'll admit I'm biased because a) I'm a Red Sox fan and b) because I've liked him for years and actually met the man this year in my home town. That said, I don't think there is any bias in pure stats and numbers which I've presented. Rice not being in the hall of fame simply makes no sense.
  3. From 1975 through 1986, Rice posted numbers that were simply unmatched by any other outfielder. The closest was Dave Winfield, a first-ballot Hall of Famer, who averaged 151 games, 634 plate appearances, 24 homers, 99 RBI, 91 runs scored and an OPS of .841. Rice tops all of those numbers, with 152 games, 655 plate appearances, 30 homers, 109 RBI, 94 runs scored and an OPS of .873. In fact, if we were to average the all-star and top-10 MVP seasons of every major league outfielder in this time period, we would find that they average - in their best years - just 146 games, 609 plate appearances, 22 homers, 85 RBI, 87 runs scored and an OPS of .844. (All of these numbers are extrapolated for the 1981 strike season.) In other words, Jim Rice spent twelve consecutive seasons posting numbers that were better than the average All-Star or MVP-caliber major league outfielder. No one else comes close - Rice was the best hitting outfielder of his day, and if not for Mike Schmidt would have been the best hitter period. This certainly was recognized in his time, as he collected six top-5 MVP finishes in this span. If MVP finishes were converted to points, Rice's total of 50 would be tied with Reggie Jackson for 20th in the history of baseball. All of the 15 eligible players ahead of him have already been inducted into the Hall of Fame. More than one hundred Hall of Famers rank behind him. http://www.baseballlibrary.com/baseballlib...White_Paul9.stm
  4. So, the best power hitter and you could absolutely argue the best hitter in the AL for over a decade (12 years) and he wasn't good for long enough? How? You are backing up your stance with very, very little. I think I've given you a lot to back up my opinion but I see little to the contrary besides people just saying they don't think he should be in.
  5. I've never understood why people are always shocked that females that need to have sex with 14 year old boys are usually not that good looking. :lol
  6. track and field isn't making anyone any money so it's really hard to compare to football which is the biggest money sport i had family who played for a top 25 basketball team - fringe player for sure - but it was amazing the stuff they had also these kids in smaller college town communities are pretty much guaranteed superstar treatment the whole time they are there even if it isn't up front money - you know a kid on his recruitment trip will see how the others do and take it into consideration now to say that is the sole reason is a bit ridiculous I was kidding.
  7. Like I said, Rice was a good player who never sustained greatness for long enough to qualify. During a 12 year period from 1975 to 1986 in the American League, Rice was ranked: 1st in runs (1,098) 1st in hits (2,145) 1st in home runs (350) 1st in runs batted in (1,276) 1st in slugging percentage (.520) 1st in total bases (3,670) 1st in extra-base hits (752) 1st in go-ahead RBIs (325) 1st in multi-hit games (640) 4th in triples (73) 4th in batting average (.304) 1st in outfield assists (125) Rice finished in the top five in MVP voting in 6 of those 12 years. In 1978 Rice won the MVP and became the first American League player since Joe DiMaggio to finish with more than 400 total bases. From 1977-1979, Rice recorded 35-plus homers and 200-plus hits in each season, the only person in history to do that. If you look at the entire major leagues over that same 12-year period, Rice still ranked first in RBIs, hits, total bases, go-ahead RBIs and multi-hit games, second in slugging, runs and extra-base hits (to Mike Schmidt), third in homers (to Schmidt and Dave Kingman), and second in outfield assists (to Dave Winfield). (Not my work) I don't think anyone can even begin to argue against that.
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    Oh, haven't seen those shows and I've only seen the first two Mission: Impossibles. Thanks. You would not like those shows at all, and I can only imagine the torture you experienced trying to pen a review for both M:I movies. :lol
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    Who is Abrams? Everyone keeps mentioning that name like it has significance. Maybe I'm just out of the loop on this one? Created Falicity, Alias, and Lost (the best show I've ever seen and my personal favorite). Directed M:I III and is helming the new Star Trek film.
  10. Rice has one year left with the BBWAA and then he is off to the Veteran's Committee.
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    I'll go see this just because of Abrams involvement but I have a feeling I'm going to absolutely hate how the movie has been shot (as if it was being recorded on a handheld camera). Shaky cam killed The Bourne Ultimatum for me.
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    It is what the government's case designate for the monster is.
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    » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « The monster.
  14. Rice being 16 votes shy really sucks.
  15. Joe Gibbs resigned as coach and team president of the Washington Redskins on Tuesday, three days after his team's playoff loss concluded a season marked by the killing of safety Sean Taylor. The Redskins said in a statement that Gibbs will remain part of the Redskins family and serve as a special adviser to owner Dan Snyder. Gibbs was to discuss his decision at a 3 p.m. news conference at Redskins Park. The Redskins will begin a search for a new coach immediately. Among the certain candidates are two former head coaches on Gibbs' staff, Gregg Williams and Al Saunders. Gibbs went 31-36, including 1-2 in the playoffs, after emerging from NFL retirement and his NASCAR career to sign a five-year, $27.5 million contract in 2004. He had always maintained that he intended to fulfill the contract, but the 67-year-old coach wavered from that stance Monday when asked if he would return for the final year of his deal. Gibbs' resignation brings an apparent end to a Hall of Fame coaching career in which he twice raised the Redskins from mediocrity into a playoff team, although he failed in his goal of bringing the team back to the Super Bowl during his second stint in Washington. Gibbs won three NFL titles during his first tenure from 1981-92; the second time around he took the team to the postseason in two of his four seasons. It also follows one of the best coaching performances of his career, his leadership helping the Redskins focus after Taylor's death on Nov. 27. Washington won its final four regular season games after Taylor's funeral, going from 5-7 to 9-7 to claim the final playoff berth in the NFC. The emotional run ended Saturday, when the Redskins lost 35-14 at Seattle in the wild-card playoffs. "It was the toughest [season] for me," Gibbs said Monday. "When you go through a season like that, for a while it's kind of hard to re-grasp reality." Gibbs has also endured a personal crisis for a year. One of his grandsons, Taylor, was diagnosed with leukemia last January at the age of 2. Gibbs frequently talks lovingly about his "grandbabies," and he made an overnight trip to North Carolina on Sunday to be with his family, interrupting the postseason routine of meetings that usually follow the final game of the season. Still, for much of the season, Gibbs seemed intent on returning to coach. Players and coaches said publicly and privately over the last week that they would be shocked if he didn't stay on to finish the job. Last month, he said he would be open to discussing a contract extension so that he would not return next season as a lame-duck coach. At a news conference Monday, Gibbs spoke about plans for next season -- the team's approach to free agency, offseason workouts and the possibility of an open quarterback competition at training camp -- as if he were going to remain on the sidelines. However, he hedged when asked if he would definitely be back, saying it would hinge on his meeting Monday night with Snyder. "Everybody's situation will be taken into context here -- including mine, and my future here and all that," Gibbs said Monday. http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3186165
  16. OMG! Texas A&M football doing shady stuff under the watch of Franchione? No way! Still has nothing to do with some poster who no one knows anything about on here posting garbage like that and saying nothing to back it up besides getting riled up and flinging some made up insults. I didn't get sh*t when I committed to A&M. Track & Field evidently isn't high enough on the food chain.
  17. So the NCAA is just letting it slip through the cracks for the hell of it? There also is the possibility that they don't have the necessary evidence to put them away. Hell, Doc Holliday's gotten off all this time..... Yet its common message board fodder? Give me a damn break. Even for the Browardcountyhighschoolfootballologist.
  18. So the NCAA is just letting it slip through the cracks for the hell of it?
  19. PJ most definitely was paid. But whatever, it's not like it doesn't happen at UM, FSU, and UF. :confused Source? As much as it makes me laugh, saying you are an expert in Broward County high school football, that I got tricked in to marrying young and live in the boondocks, and bobbob goes to sh*tty FIU and is a know it all does not quench my thirst for knowledge.
  20. I didn't see it so I can't say but a remake of a bad show/concept doesn't really seem like it would be a winner from the surface.
  21. I think we all just have a sense of nostalgia of AG from our childhood. That show was never any good either. I've cringed watching it a couple of times on ESPN Classic.
  22. Clemens came off incredibly unintelligent and really helped his cause in no way possible. He was whiny, impassionate, and the last 2-3 minutes of the interview were a mess. Legally I can understand why he may need to not talk about some things but don't come out and tell everyone this is the interview that will prove your innocence when nothing came from it at all.
  23. I seriously f***ing lol'd. Wow, an expert in Broward County High School Football. I can't think of anything less important to be an expert on except pretty much nothing else in the world. You must leave a pitiful life if this got you that riled. I guess when some faceless nobody on a message board knows about a huge scandal involving the paying of a player that the NCAA must be knocking on LSU's door any second.
  24. it was so nice of his friend to interview him....those questions sucked. I don't know what more Wallace could have asked. Its not his fault Clemens danced around everything.
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