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he probably caught it in chi town since it was supposedly cold there that night. LOL

It may not have been raining at the stadium, but it was in many other parts of Broward and Palm Beach today. oh ok ...

btw, why no afternoon game for this one? :mischief2 for what...

i agree with Rune... it doesnt matter if we playing the Tigers... we should get more than 10k , 1st- way we playing... 2nd- we doing good , and no it wasnt raining around the staduim from 3 till game time cuz i was 1 block away from the staduim from like 4 till like 6 ( in gym)

from espn.com oh oh eh? they just said it on SportCenter... that Dotson called te FBI and said that he need to talk to them... that when he told them that he killed him..

Yaz Iz knowz howz litle stPid thgs lik that cn gets anoyng lol

well Penny was there .... and that sh!t of go Dime is getting annoying

There's no need to waste people's time on an inside joke...that's what PMs are for. Or email. Or IMs. lol

I'm friends with the guys down at Hollywood Collectibles...when I was there today they told me that they kept having to give Dontrelle cough drops...he wasn't feeling well...I'm not sure if anyone knew this or said it but I figured I'd post it... when , yesterday ?

I PICKED OTHER CUZ DIME WASNT THERE :angry GO DIME :thumbup who the f*** is Dime ? is he Brad Penny ? cuz Brad Penny is there...

Fish on now...... "outstanding effort by Beckett" that was all :lol something is something

i picked the blank spot.... i think Beckett and Penny will have huge impacts y u pick the blank spot lol

Player of the week according to BBTN was Richard Hildago

i hope the BBTN crew stays on the bandwagon lol lol

vote and explain ? i think it will be Beckett , even tho Willis will end with a record of 14-3 i think Beckett will have the biggest impact in the 2nd half , cuz he was out in the first have and he was out all last season or most of the season so he will pitch his a** of to show the Fish and the fans that he is the Beckett the Marlins wanted when they sign him...

It doesn't matter... It's not my fault you weren't home to pick before the game... sigh

now with Urbina and Loop in the 8th and 9th all we need from our starters is 7ip, and if Spooney AA or Nunez EVER come back we can have even more depth and matchup possibilites. this team looks like a playoff contender to me. i hope !

Lee

Because you made the pick an hour and a half after the game started... i just got home...

from espn.com oh oh

Pudge07, that doesn't count... lol y ? i just got home ?

lol

she looks good

Castillo...

Times Pierre has scored after stealing: 1. Game 3: Pierre steals 2nd. Pudge follows with a triple and Pierre scores. So here, Pierre would've scored whether he had stolen second or not. 2. Game 21: Pierre steals 2nd with no outs, then gets to third on a wild pitch. Pudge follows with a 2-run homer. Again, Pierre would've scored whether he had stolen second or not. 3. Game 27: With one out, Pierre steals 3rd. He then scores on an Encarnacion groundout. The next batter, Lowell, lines out. This is the first instance where Pierre scores a run that wouldn't have been scored had he not stolen. Oh, and the Marlins lost this game 7-1. 4. Game 36: With one out, Pierre steals 3rd. Lowell follows with a sac fly to score Pierre. The next batter, Pudge, lines out. This is the second instance where Pierre scores a run that wouldn't have been scored had he not stolen. The Marlins lost this game as well, 3-2. 5. Game 39: With no outs, Pierre steals 2nd. Castillo follows with a single, Pierre moves to 3rd. Lowell then grounds into a DP that scores Pierre. Lee walks, and Encarnacion grounds out. This is the third instance where Pierre scores a run that wouldn't have been scored had he not stolen. 6. Game 39: Later in the same game, Pierre steals 2nd again with none out. Castillo follows with a single, Lowell follows with a single (that scores Pierre), Derrek Lee follows with a walk. Later, Hollandsworth hits a sac fly to score Castillo. Here's another situation where Pierre would've scored even if he hadn't stolen, since the next three batters all reached base anyway. 7. Game 39: Same game still, Pierre again steals 2nd with one out. Castillo, the next batter, pops out. Lowell, the next batter, homers to left to score Pierre. Again, Pierre would've scored whether he had stolen or not. 8. Game 54: With no outs, Pierre steals 2nd. The next three batters all single. Again, Pierre would've scored whether he had stolen or not. 9. Game 57: With no outs, Pierre steals 2nd and gets to 3rd on a bad throw. Castillo then grounds out. Pudge singles to score Pierre. Lowell hits into a DP. This is the fourth instance where Pierre scores a run that wouldn't have been scored had he not stolen. 10. Game 60: With no outs, Pierre steals 2nd. Castillo grounds out and moves Pierre to 3rd. Pudge singles to score Pierre. Lowell hits into a DP. This is the fifth instance where Pierre scores a run that wouldn't have been scored had he not stolen. Marlins lose this game, 6-5. 11. Game 65: With no outs, Pierre steals 2nd. Castillo sacrifices him to 3rd, but the ball is thrown away, and Pierre ends up scoring while Castillo ends up at 2nd. Pudge then grounds out. Lowell then singles to score Castillo from 2nd. Encarnacion then strikes out. Lee then hits a 2-run-homer. Since we can't assume that Castillo would've been bunting had Pierre been on first, I'll give Pierre the benefit of the doubt and say this is the sixth instance where Pierre scores a run that wouldn't have been scored had he not stolen. Marlins win 12-4. 12. Game 74: With no outs, Pierre steals 2nd. Castillo grounds out. Pudge reaches on an infield single. Lowell hits a 3-run-homer. Again, Pierre would've scored even if he hadn't stolen a base. 13. Game 80: With one out, Pierre steals 2nd. Pierre then steals 3rd as well. Castillo walks. Then, on a wild pitch, Pierre scores and Castillo moves to 2nd. Pudge reaches on an infield single. The next two batters got out. Here, if Pierre doesn't steal, he still moves to 2nd on Castillo's walk, moves to 3rd on the wild pitch, and scores on Pudge's single. 14. Game 82: With no outs, Pierre steals 2nd, then steals 3rd. Castillo strikes out. Pudge grounds out, with the grounder scoring Pierre. Lowell flies out. This is the seventh instance where Pierre scores a run that wouldn't have been scored had he not stolen. Marlins win, 10-9. 15. Game 84: With no outs, Pierre steals 2nd. Castillo reaches on an infield single. Pudge hits a 3-run-homer. Again, Pierre would've scored even if he hadn't stolen. 16. Game 84: Later in the same game, with no outs, Pierre steals 2nd, then steals 3rd. Castillo hits a sac fly to score Pierre. Pudge grounds out. Lowell singles. Lee hits a 2-run-homer. Here, if Pierre never steals, he'd still score on Lee's home run. 17. Game 87: With one out, Pierre steals 3rd base. Pudge then reaches on an error and Pierre scores from 3rd. Lowell flies out to center. Encarnacion flies out to right. Since we can't be sure Lowell's fly would've been deep enough to score Pierre, I'll say This is the eighth instance where Pierre scores a run that wouldn't have been scored had he not stolen. 18. Game 91: With 2 outs, Pierre steals 2nd. Castillo walks. Pudge singles to 2nd, Pierre scores. Lowell pops out. Here, Pierre would've ended up on second anyway after Castillo's walk, and Pudge's single would've driven him in. 19. Game 95: With no outs, Pierre steals 2nd. He gets to 3rd on a wild pitch. Castillo pops out. Pudge singles, scoring Pierre. Lowell then hits a 2-run-homer. So Pierre would've scored whether he had stolen or not. 20. Game 95: Later in the same game, with one out, Pierre steals 2nd and then 3rd. Pudge hits a sac fly to score Pierre. Lowell walks. Encarnacion singles to left. Lee grounds out. Here, Pierre probably would've scored from 2nd on Encarnacion's single considering his speed, but since we don't know for sure, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and say This is the ninth instance where Pierre scores a run that wouldn't have been scored had he not stolen. 21. Game 96: With no outs. Pierre steals 2nd. Gets to 3rd on a throwing error. Castillo grounds out. Pudge hits a 2-run-homer. Again, Pierre would've scored whether he had stolen or not. So, after all that research, we've come up with 9 instances this season where Pierre's stolen base allowed him to score a run that wouldn't have scored had he not stolen the base. 9 instances. And Pierre's been caught stealing and/or picked off 13 times. Now tell me, does it still seem like Pierre's stolen bases start Marlin rallies? Now, I'm sure the obvious retort will be "you don't know that those batters get the same pitches if Pierre doesn't steal, and so you don't know if you'll get the same outcome." But this misses the point. Pierre has scored a total of 21 times this season after stealing a base. BUT, you have to accept the fact that on some of those occasions, he would've scored anyway. How many times would he have scored anyway? Well, we obviously can't know for sure. But even if you give Pierre the benefit of the doubt and say that only 5 of those times he would've scored anyway, that results in 16 runs Pierre has scored that he wouldn't have scored if he hadn't stolen. But Pierre's also been caught stealing and/or picked off 13 times. So that's 13 instances where Pierre gives away an out on the basepaths and thus hurts the Marlins chances to start a rally. The end result is 16 extra runs scored from his attempted steals, but 13 outs given away from his attempted steals. Do you still think Pierre's steals are that valuable? umm... but u never know... cuz maybe if he wouldnt of stolen the base they would of pitch to Pudge , Lowell different..