DownRodeo

i thought this was an Onion article when i first read it.

that would be a really good trade for the marlins. plus players at shortstop and center field. marisnick sucks. cishek is solid but a shortstop and centerfielder are way more valuable than a reliever. only real gamble is nicolino, and nobody rates him as an A+ prospect anyway. but it won't happen.

Sounds like you won't have any issues with sample bias! lol.

I think its going to be bad. Very bad. Watching a few guys develop is great on a team that is OK. But we are going to get s*** on all the time. Loss after loss. So seeing eovaldi move to the pen, hechevarria make some defensive plays, all of the singles this team will hit and Anderson Perez getting knocked around isn't going to be exciting. Its going to suck. Its going to be like watching a dog turd turn white in the sun. eovaldi managed to stay in the rotation, but otherwise, pretty spot on.

I just believe that if you tend to be more aggressive at the plate, you're going to put the ball IN PLAY more often. based on this sentence, i don't think you know what LD% is (even though it's already been defined in this thread).

At this point, a Marlin fan has to root for historic failure. Ownership cannot justify a fire sale (especially one that doesn't generate the best prospects in baseball in return) by claiming that there is no difference between finishing last with a league-average payroll and finishing last with a league-lowest payroll. A '62 Mets-like season will bring out some sort of real reaction (ranging from the firing of Beinfest and Hill to potential intervention by Selig or the players union). these echo my sentiments, though i would add that the fundamental problem is loria himself; removing beinfest and hill would be to treat the symptoms and not the disease. but i agree that the best hope for marlin fans is a year (or two) of historically poor on-field performance coupled with a year (or two) of abysmally low attendance, to serve as the impetus for loria's removal. of course, even that's no guarantee that he can be forced/cajoled/coaxed/persuaded to leave. but the fact remains, this team cannot succeed with him steering the ship. he has poisoned his relationship with fans and players (and managers), and you simply cannot produce a successful product when that relationship is severed. that the remaining fans engage in earnest discussion about the haul the marlins could receive for stanton--a 23-year-old phenom who hasn't even hit his arbitration years--is as telltale a sign as any that this team has no future. the thread on when we're going to be competitive again is amusing. "2015. no, 2016." this year will mark the tenth year in a row the marlins will miss the postseason, and still the true believers think playoff contention is just around the corner. the foundation is rotted. you need to knock it down and start from scratch (and by that i don't mean another firesale).

1.66 runs per game--our current average--would actually be the worst in baseball history.

worried about what? the marlins postseason hopes?

so you legitimately believe the marlins will finish ahead of the braves? i will give you 10 to 1 odds. if braves finish with a better record than the marlins, you pay me $100. if marlins finish with a better record than the braves, i'll pay you $1,000. since you're dead serious, this should be a no-brainer for you. let me know if you're interested. Unlike others I'll put my money where my mouth is. So I'm going to have a nice steak dinner instead. Bragging rights, fine. But I don't bet money anymore. Bad habit. At the beginning of the year I believed the braves didn't have the hitting or the pitching, they've proven me wrong but let's see after the Dorset two months where they are. I saw the marlins pitching keeping them ahead of the braves. The braves hitting I feel will be too much all or nothing for my tastes w the uptons and Uggla. If your adamant well do a $20 and $200 bet, and Admin holds the money starting today.lame.

Braves did what they're supposed to do which is take care of a much weaker team. But Piazza31 told me that the Marlins will finish ahead of the Braves this season.I still think they will, and I also said the pitching wasnt as bad as you thought. Give me credit where it's due, the starting pitching has been good, if not great. Better by leaps and bounds then last year at this point.You can't be serious. They've played a week's worth of games. That sampling size is so minuscule that it can be no means considered an indicator of how well the pitching will perform over the long run--good or bad.Dead. Serious. Cue "The Who" Yeeeeaaaaaahhhhhh so you legitimately believe the marlins will finish ahead of the braves? i will give you 10 to 1 odds. if braves finish with a better record than the marlins, you pay me $100. if marlins finish with a better record than the braves, i'll pay you $1,000. since you're dead serious, this should be a no-brainer for you. let me know if you're interested.

penguino and spike, i give credit to you guys; you've been very level-headed and logical in explaining in detail why this team is not at all reminiscent of the 2006 team. but the homers on this board are True Believers. let the season play out. six months from now, it'll be clear who was correct.

Here, in 2013, Chris Coghlan is left-handed, and a center fielder. Those are some of the best things you can say about him. He's not a center-fielder. He has no position. But he is left handed. He never got to play his natural position and think that hurt him some, you can add lomo to that list as well. the funny part is that there's no reason why they can't platoon him at his natural position right now. instead they play him at a position that he can't play so he can share at-bats with a guy who's better than him both defensively and offensively--even against righties.

it's the front page story on Yahoo. headline: Surprising roster move reeks of desperation yahoo is stealing my stuff.

The Standard Operating Procedure from day 1 with this FO has been to wait on starting the clock. Now suddenly that is not an issue apparently. This is just another example of a FO that is desperate and changing course once again. It seems as if there is very little direction, just reactions and no set plan. this. reeks of desperation. but it all logically follows from their off-season rhetoric. loria's message to the fans all off-season has been, "listen, you idiots, we needed to make these trades to get better." and then you have samson spouting off "you may not know the players but you'll know the wins", guaranteeing they'd finish better than last season's team, and saying "yeah, we didn't make great decisions in the past, but trust us to make the right decisions now." then two-fifths of the rotation goes down, and lomo is out until june. they are panicking and trying to save face. they desperately want to finish better than last season's team because they spouted off a whole lot of bs about how they had to make trades and this'll be better for the team and we'll be better than last year blah blah blah, and they know if they finish worse than last year they'll look like (even bigger) morons. this move was made in the hopes that they'll win 70 games as opposed to 67. because of their defiant we-know-best-and-you-fans-would-see-that-if-you-weren't-such-idiots attitude, the marlins put themselves in an awkward spot where they are paradoxically in both rebuilding mode and win-now mode. "very little direction" is accurate.

that is the worst rotation in the majors.