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More shots of Priscilla please. Is she anyone? who was she / why were they showing her ? (not that there's anything wrong with that!)

Licorice, Mandarin Red, Diva Blue, Sundance? http://i950.photobuc...99_TXC_SRGB.png

Loria, wanting to let go of the past Friday night, chucked a Florida Marlins hat into the crowd, as if to say: In with the new. Out with 2 World Series championships! Worst symbol ever.

Loria's flinging the old Florida Marlins cap into the audience just before he unveiled the new Miami Marlins logo was blasphemy. Hopefully, he hasn't placed a century-long hex on the team, previously one of the all-time most blessed organizations in sports history, by tossing a cherished historical object into the crowd as if he was saying good riddance to years of forgettable baseball in Miami. The Florida Marlins had an exceptional, brief history and Loria's action was poor symbolically and karmically. If the revolting new colors and logo that he picked out don't curse us in the new stadium during the twenty-first century, maybe his disrespect to the Baseball Gods for 1993, 1997, 2003 and numerous other games and moments will.

...but this "work of art" http://miamiherald.t...9224b996970b-pi http://miamiherald.t...ork-of-art.html (warning: viewing this image may be hazardous to your health)

“I just actually heard just about [Morrison being optioned] two minutes ago,� Helms said. “I don’t even know the situation with him, so I don’t like to comment on it.� http://www.miamihera...l#ixzz1V1p6a6EY As we all know, that would be the first time! In recent years, his lack of on-field production combined with his off-field open criticism of teammates to the media has made The Artist Formerly Known As Uncle Wes less than a shell of the guy who teamed up with Joe Borchard on a June night in Baltimore in 2006 to create an all-time Florida Marlins moment (back-to-back pinch hit home runs in extra innings). Will Helms be hired as an Atlanta Braves coach for the postseason? So much leadership he can provide! And another opportunity for him to gaze at Chipper Jones' behind from the bench! Sayonara!

AND HONESTLY INSTEAD OF DESIGNATING THURSTON. DESIGNATE f***ING WES HELMS!!!!!!!!

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/07/20/eveningnews/main20081231.shtml?tag=exclsv

Just saying, what if Wes didn't "go" to the media, but they asked him the question. Doesn't that change your perception of all this? absolutely not, it's called "no comment." that would be the media doing its job.

you don't have to be a good player to be a good coach. He is speaking with a coach's mentality. He sees a situation, and is not afraid to speak his mind on the situation. I know a lot of people on here think that because he sucks as a player, his coaching potential hit the crapper....this is not the case at all. he should be afraid to speak his mind to the media like that with his production and career. most great coaches were not very good pros. maybe he's auditioning to be the Braves third base coach.

Coming from him, given what he does on the team, it's so far beyond comical that he would say it. There's an awe inspiring lack of self-awareness with this player. He's not criticizing Hanley's talent, though. It's his attitude. Despite how much Helms sucks, he handles himself much more properly than Hanley, I'm sure. Like a professional :mischief . it is unprofessional to criticize and call out another player, especially when he is playing well now. acting like a professional from the bench doesnt do much. There is also something called constructive criticism. In order to make it past high school baseball, you have to be able to handle constructive criticism. He isn't criticizing his play, swing, or even defense. He's whining about mannerisms. People are different but everyone wants Hanley to fit into this stupid mold. Get over it. Is he really hurting your feeling by holding onto a bat for 3 seconds? The artist formerly known as Uncle Wes actually said its a good thing just that Hanley "has not really bothered anybody." Wow

Coming from him, given what he does on the team, it's so far beyond comical that he would say it. There's an awe inspiring lack of self-awareness with this player. He's not criticizing Hanley's talent, though. It's his attitude. Despite how much Helms sucks, he handles himself much more properly than Hanley, I'm sure. Like a professional :mischief . it is unprofessional to criticize and call out another player, especially when he is playing well now. acting like a professional from the bench doesnt do much. There is also something called constructive criticism. In order to make it past high school baseball, you have to be able to handle constructive criticism. Yes. But why does this get aired out to the media? Say it to him every day, every 15 minutes in the clubhouse or in private, but direct quotes to a reporter?

Coming from him, given what he does on the team, it's so far beyond comical that he would say it. There's an awe inspiring lack of self-awareness with this player. He's not criticizing Hanley's talent, though. It's his attitude. Despite how much Helms sucks, he handles himself much more properly than Hanley, I'm sure. Like a professional :mischief . it is unprofessional to criticize and call out another player, especially when he is playing well now. acting like a professional from the bench doesnt do much.

Coming from him, given what he does on the team, it's so far beyond comical that he would say it. There's an awe inspiring lack of self-awareness with this player.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

“Hanley is going to be Hanley,� Helms said. “There are some things with Hanley we just kind of have to deal with, as far as I guess the showboat stuff. It’s not going to change. We’ve tried to, but it’s not. But the way he’s approached his at-bats, the way he’s approached his defense, the way he’s come to the field every day and not really bothered anybody, standing upon himself, I’ve definitely seen a big difference [since McKeon took over].� Helms said that when the Marlins were in Texas last month, he had a conversation with veteran umpire Joe West about Ramirez and his change in attitude. “Joe West said if this kid plays 162 games with 100 percent heart, he’ll be a Hall of Famer. And it’s true. He’s that good,� Helms said. “Hanley is one of these guys where he’ll always need that guy to keep him where he needs to be. Not all of us can self-motivate ourselves.� http://www.miamihera...-impressed.html Why do reporters continue to seek out this player's opinion? Why does anyone credit this player with veteran leadership? If there is an actual veteran ballplayer on this team that we should hear from, it's our 2012 starting center fielder, Mike Cameron. I will not ever understand how this player feels it is appropriate to speak about another player, who is infinitely more talented and has already accomplished more than him in his entire career. The player who shall not be named has 692 hits in thirteen seasons. The other is starting his second thousand in his sixth season. We all know how good Hanley is. Is there anything more un-leader-like than making underhanded comments at a teammate, criticizing his attitude and mental ability, and cleaning it all up with a comment that everybody already knows to be true? And this all coming from a player who does not contribute on the field, and has essentially been earning charity for the last three seasons. Those back-to-back home runs with Joe Borchard in Baltimore in 2006 are a long way in the past.

San Diego, Pittsburgh, Houston. Um, yeah? Miller couldn't retire little leaguers when he was here. No, he definitely had good stretches while he was here. 4 outings in 08 he had a 1.60 ERA, 3 in 09 he had a 3.00 ERA, 4 in 2010 (1 start, two relief, and another start) he had a 3.60 ERA. He needs consistency. He had those good stretches, but his lows were incredibly bad, leading to these numbers in those seasons: '08 5.87 ERA (20 GS), '09 4.84 ERA (14 GS), '10 8.54 ERA (7 GS). And that's without even accounting for some of those beyond laughable minor-league starts where he was walking 9 guys in 3 innings.

just the fact that this discussion is occurring is remarkable considering how Miller was pitching the last couple years. he was about to be out of baseball (or nearly should've been) and is now starting on one of MLB's premier, best teams. IT'S ONLY OCCURRING BECAUSE YOU STARTED THIS THREAD. Or because he had a quality start for the Boston Red Sox yesterday. haha, both reasons. its just unbelievable to me.

just the fact that this discussion is occurring is remarkable considering how Miller was pitching the last couple years. he was about to be out of baseball (or nearly should've been) and is now starting on one of MLB's premier, best teams.

San Diego, Pittsburgh, Houston. Um, yeah? Miller couldn't retire little leaguers when he was here.

http://espn.go.com/m...3/andrew-miller at least his whip is 1.47...

Friday June 24, 2011 I remain grateful for the life and circumstances Many are the messages I received after my resignation as leader of the team the Florida Marlins. From family to strangers have taken the trouble of trying to embrace this experience. I appreciate your words of encouragement, concern and even advice. Take this opportunity to say that I am well, my family is well and my mood is as always, grateful for the life and circumstances. With reference to my resignation have been mixed comments and speculation arose about it. Although share with you some reasons for my resignation, I do not intend to go into details because of the respect I have for the organization that gave me the opportunity to lead this level. Given the team's losing streak in June, was trying to find a reaction to a team full of injuries to its key and full of talented players, but many of them with just one year of experience in the majors . He tried countless movements of personnel. Management dismissed the hitting coach and start searching fruitlessly in the minor leagues replacements for injured, including ace pitcher Josh Johnson and Hanley Ramirez, but the team still lost. Until June 19, the team had lost 17 of the last 18 games. Under these circumstances, speculation began my dismissal. The management was in the choice of taking this action or not, this could be counterproductive considering the positive relationship he had with the players, the acceptance of the press and fans. Seeking an immediate reaction from the players, the dismissal was imminent. This is why I decide to leave on my own terms. There was no pressure from the Marlins management to resign. However, as a baseball man I have been for many years, understood that the time merited my dismissal. We all know that neither the leader nor the coaches bateamos or shoot, but whether this is fair or not, this is how this business works. My decision was thought for a few days and one of the obvious factors to take were the losses. Was there other factors involved in the decision? Definitely. I take responsibility for the team's losing streak, after all, I was the leader and had to find that everything worked, even with the deficiencies of staff. The public's perception of my resignation I do not care. My decisions are based on principles. Do not let the opinions of others control my life. After this positive experience, I am working on my next projects. I am a strong believer in the goals we set for ourselves are the ones that give us the impetus to move forward with daily adversity. The past is gone, learn from it. We can control our future by focusing on what we are doing at present. By now I am working on strategies to help our youth to develop the discipline of baseball, an area where I always wanted to contribute. After all, what better to acquire knowledge and experience if we are not willing to share. Finally, I leave you with this quote from the deceased leader and basketball legend John Wooden: "The softest pillow is there a clear conscience."

0 for 3 tonight, Wes. Keep it going! and an error. 0 for 4 with an error. Now that's leadership.

“It’s definitely going to be weird to play a home game in front of 30,000 Seattle fans,� said Wes Helms, who along with Hanley Ramirez are the only remaining position players who made the Marlins’ last trip to Seattle in 2008. “The positive is we’re going to have more people there, and we know we’re not going to have any delays. The weather up there is awesome. It’s not going to be 100 degrees with humidity.� http://www.miamihera...l#ixzz1QLhRdKR6 Ok, I know he qualified his statement with "Seattle" and isn't so inflammatory, but he's been on this team long enough to not need to take any shots at the fans for the other people who are too dumb to like the most successful sports franchise in South Florida. And if he hasn't been here long enough, he certainly sucks enough. The only thing I can recall him ever doing that stands out was when he and Joe Borchard hit back-to-back pinch hit HRs at Baltimore in an unbelievable win in 2006, Helms "career year" by far based on his averages and percentages; 965 OPS! And unless I am misremembering, that was also the same game in which Miggy hit his intentional ball RBI double, which was the probably the coolest thing ever in baseball. So Wes has a special place in my heart for that game alone. But I'm pretty tired of hearing from this guy, in general. It's wonderful to be around greatness like Bobby Cox and Chipper Jones, but his biggest claim is that he was able to sit on the bench for a good team. He is not Luis Gonzalez in 2008. He really needs to start telling the media "no comment" and hope that his .258 OBP doesn't make McKeon so depressed that he resigns also. 0 for 3 tonight, Wes. Keep it going!

Like Edwin's attitude, except the Barea shout out: Wednesday June 15, 2011 Temple and determination in adversity The team of Florida Marlins has been immersed in a slump for the last two weeks. In the first two months had the second best record in the majors, but now costs us win a game. As was discussed in spring training, our margin for error is very small. We have the parts needed to effectively replace the loss of Josh Johnson (on the inactive list for 60 days) or Hanley Ramirez who until recently was on the inactive list for 15 days. However, many positive things are happening in this period of turbulence. The young players are learning to deal with all this negative process and much attention in the media. More importantly they are learning that although it is difficult to reach the majors is even harder to keep. They understood the importance of keeping an open mind to be willing to make adjustments in their mechanics and the mental aspect of the game. The team is maturing as an entity. One of the problems we face today in every aspect of our lives is that everyone wants to see immediate results, fast food, academic fast quick information. Society is obsessed with speed. Unfortunately we do not recognize that even with all the advances in technology and science, the most important element in the success or failure of individual people and in this case a baseball team is the character in adversity. The team is growing in character. I'm sure better times come and talent of each of the players will take us back to contention for the division. We as a team we have to keep struggling to do things you have to do without looking for shortcuts. We have to concentrate on playing the game and should be played without paying attention to the immediate results. Eventually the wins will start arriving. This technique applies to any individual or group. When things do not go as we hope, we must return to basics. As well said my friend Victor Pellot Power, 'the game of baseball is like life itself. We must strive to play well but we go wrong, and wrong not to play hoping that we get it right '. We are looking for that series to get us out of the slump, or simply a game, a hit, a pitch. The important thing is to keep insisting on playing well and not lose confidence in our abilities. Like life itself, when things do not smile at us we can not succumb, we have to keep fighting, fighting, fighting until you get that new job, that call, or that person to give us the opportunity to straighten things out for good. Congratulations to J.J Barea Let me take this opportunity to congratulate our pride boricua NBA, Jose Juan Barea. We continue to demonstrate that we can if we are determined to achieve our dreams. JJ is a role model for improvement. Arriba Puerto Rico!