Nwkennard

I can't believe some people are actually defending the guy tonight. If his name was Jeremy Hermida, there would have been multiple threads on it, already. Not even Hermida did such a thing here. It's pathetic, and quite frankly, I'd much rather see the guys who want to play even if the one who doesn't want to play is the only superstar on the team. Nice to see a change of heart Erik. If I remember correctly...I expressed a concern for Hanley's overall apathetic play just a few nights ago and you were quick to dismiss these now seemingly correct observations.

Also, the Uggla incident was completely different. That was perceived as a case of Hanley having an extremely prolonged slump and sitting out to preserve his batting title all while the Marlins' play-off chances were in doubt. None of those factors were at play here. It was a completely different scenario. This might have been a lose-lose situation from the perspective of spectators, but not in the context of actually playing the game. Not to mention the fact that his visible pain earlier in the game from the shin injury would make it difficult to brand Hanley as faking it. Hanley has been dogging it down the 1st base line quite a bit lately. At the games I haven't been the only one noticing it. Wasn't hurt then. And he has a rep for doing it. Two years ago he took himself out of the last game of the season, an inportant game to us BTW, to ensure he kept that average above .300. Last year's crap was well documented. Barden has a slightly sprained ankle. Cody took a 90-something fastball off his knee. See them dogging it? Don't try to make excuses for him. Sit the prima donna again Tuesday. Or let Uggla take him aside and explain things to him. I've noticed Hanley's lack of effort this year as well. In fact, I brought up the fact that he wasn't running out ground balls, giving up on at bat's, etc....on this forum a couple of days ago and got a lot of heat for it. I'm a big Hanley fan, but he looks sort of apathetic in some games.

WOW!

Jesus.....I can't wait for Fredi to be fired.

Man our coach is just plain garbage.

Man nice to have a game like this go our way.

Hanley K's once and now he doesn't wanna be a Marlin anymore. You guys aren't overreacting or anything. The guy is still producing like one of the best SS's in the game. He got off to a slow start in April, and is back to his amazing-self in May with a 1.092 .OPS, entering today's game. Today he gets 2 solid hits, and was robbed of a 3rd in the 1st inning. Lets ignore this, though. He failed once in a sport where a good hitter fails 6-7 times out of 10. Not to mention he didn't K against some bum; he K'd against Marmol who is known for that, and now has 33 K's in 16 innings (that's over 2 K's per inning, for those counting). But yeah, he just doesn't wanna be here anymore... Don't be ridiculous, all I'm saying is he doesn't look like he's giving it his all, and that says something to his talent considering he's still leading most SS in several offensive categories.

Fredi is garbage. I could probably coach this team better. I hate to say it, Hanley does not look good this year at all. He's not stealing bases, not running out ground balls, having crappy at bats, and, honestly, kind of has a smug aire to him him. I love Hanley, but he just look different this year.

That was low

Oh crap....not Pinto.

NICEEE! Paulino should be in there for good.

Good hit Hanley, now steal a damn bag!!!!

Uggla almost screwed that one too.

I'm not impressed with Hanley's play this year.

god damn it all Volstad

Maybe it's just me, but when I look Hanley's demeanor this season, I get the feeling that; A) he is acting way too cocky and/or B) he looks like he's not as into everything right now.

That's now two strikes not called be the ump.

Time to bring Stanton up.

Maybe it's just me, but it seems a little disconcerting that the marlins haven't attempted more steals. Its because every single player capable of stealing bases is simply not getting on base. Obviously not counting HanRam. As of now Hanley has something like 2 steals......do you think his days of 20-30 steals a year are done?

Maybe it's just me, but it seems a little disconcerting that the marlins haven't attempted more steals.

Our bullpen sucks, great pitcher throwing well, hasn't thrown 90 pitches, just finished off the meat of the order, can hit better than some of our bench players. And it's not like Carroll got on base......How does it not make sense to leave him in. He can't actually hit better than our PHers, that was a joke. AND YOU'RE PLAYING THE RESULT AGAIN. Don't play the result, it's not how the world works. When you're down by 1 in the 7th, facing of the hottest bullpens in the league you HAVE to replace the pitcher with a PHer. Agree to disagree.........I still hate this coach.

This coach is garbage.

I have a question, why the f*ck was Johnson taken out so early? He threw 80 something pitches and didn't walk anyone. This coach is garbage. was curious of that myself, but I was sort of in and out of the room so wasn't sure what happened. he was at 86... i sure would trust him for another inning over our pen. PHer in the 7th inning when were were down by 1. It was easily the right move. Clearly it wasn't. That's super not how that works. It was clearly the right move, you don't play the result. Our bullpen sucks, great pitcher throwing well, hasn't thrown 90 pitches, just finished off the meat of the order, can hit better than some of our bench players. And it's not like Carroll got on base......How does it not make sense to leave him in.

I have a question, why the f*ck was Johnson taken out so early? He threw 80 something pitches and didn't walk anyone. This coach is garbage. was curious of that myself, but I was sort of in and out of the room so wasn't sure what happened. he was at 86... i sure would trust him for another inning over our pen. PHer in the 7th inning when were were down by 1. It was easily the right move. Clearly it wasn't.

I have a question, why the f*ck was Johnson taken out so early? He threw 80 something pitches and didn't walk anyone. This coach is garbage. was curious of that myself, but I was sort of in and out of the room so wasn't sure what happened. he was at 86... i sure would trust him for another inning over our pen. We were down 3-2 and needed some offense, although he's better than some of our PH haha Yeah, even if was a crappy hitter. He is a top 10 pitcher in baseball. You don't take him out after only 86 pitches......especially when the number 8 guy doesn't get on base. I hate our manager and our bullpen. ARGHHHHH!