Wild Card Posted April 22, 2004 Share Posted April 22, 2004 Coming up soon. Just a heads up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TarHeel324 Posted April 22, 2004 Share Posted April 22, 2004 my opinion: lowell in a heartbeat rolen is a prima donna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild Card Posted April 22, 2004 Author Share Posted April 22, 2004 The question was who is more important to their team: Lowell or Rolen? Adande picked Lowell, Adande won. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miami15 Posted April 22, 2004 Share Posted April 22, 2004 Cowlishaw gave a good argument on Lowell being a non factor in the SF series, but if you have Pujols in your lineup, you'll always be playing second fiddle. Many would say Lowell is more important than Cabs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG Z Posted April 22, 2004 Share Posted April 22, 2004 I don't like rolen,lowell should win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miami15 Posted April 22, 2004 Share Posted April 22, 2004 I don't like rolen,lowell should win. well of course Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild Card Posted April 22, 2004 Author Share Posted April 22, 2004 Cowlishaw gave a good argument on Lowell being a non factor in the SF series, but if you have Pujols in your lineup, you'll always be playing second fiddle. Agreed, but in this statement: but if you have Pujols in your lineup, you'll always be playing second fiddle. ...you could switch Pujols with Cabrera and you'd have another pretty strong arguement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Das Texan Posted April 22, 2004 Share Posted April 22, 2004 they are 1-2 in the national league easily. both are very good both offensively and defensively. i'd take either one and smile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miami15 Posted April 22, 2004 Share Posted April 22, 2004 Cowlishaw gave a good argument on Lowell being a non factor in the SF series, but if you have Pujols in your lineup, you'll always be playing second fiddle. Agreed, but in this statement: but if you have Pujols in your lineup, you'll always be playing second fiddle. ...you could switch Pujols with Cabrera and you'd have another pretty strong arguement.Pujols is a freak of nature, triple crown contender. Cabrera is a 2nd year player with like 19 career hrs. But in a couple months or so . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMLinkinPark Posted April 22, 2004 Share Posted April 22, 2004 they are 1-2 in the national league easily. both are very good both offensively and defensively. i'd take either one and smile. agreed :plain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beinfest4Prez Posted April 22, 2004 Share Posted April 22, 2004 they are 1-2 in the national league easily. both are very good both offensively and defensively. i'd take either one and smile. How about entire league? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Das Texan Posted April 22, 2004 Share Posted April 22, 2004 they are 1-2 in the national league easily. both are very good both offensively and defensively. i'd take either one and smile. How about entire league? glaus, chavez and blalock are pretty damn good also. and thats just hte AL West. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KJC Posted April 22, 2004 Share Posted April 22, 2004 there is that A-Rod guy :plain he doesnt suck... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Izzie Posted April 22, 2004 Share Posted April 22, 2004 Yeah I saw it I thought both made pretty good arguements. Because it's not like the question was who was better but who was more important and that all depends on how many other key guys are on your team that are depended on more than you. And granted, there are some players we probably depend on more than Lowell like all the pitchers, Cabs, and probably the catchers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnylons Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 I have had this argument in the past - especially before last season. I said I would take Lowell over Rolen and several people (on the MLB board, not here because I was suspended at the time) thought I was crazy. The reason? Lowell is more of a clutch hitter AND stays healthy. Rolen is always having injuries. Either way, you arent doing bad. I think Rolen may have more natural power than Lowell, but Lowell in a lot of ways is a better player. But Lowell is more important to his team than Rolen because of Pujols, Edmonds, and others in that lineup - the Cards have the bigger payroll and can get supplemental players. The Marlins have to bargain and develop young talent. Thank God they did though because the Marlins are a much better team... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dolfinfan305 Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 Lowell prob would have had a good postseason if he hadnt gotten inured. After missing a month it was like spring training again...trying to adjust to being pitched too again. You cant knock him for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beinfest4Prez Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 they are 1-2 in the national league easily. both are very good both offensively and defensively. i'd take either one and smile. How about entire league? glaus, chavez and blalock are pretty damn good also. and thats just hte AL West. Lets leave it at this: I'll take any. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rferry Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 Lowell is just as good as Rolen, and IMO better defensively. But he's looked upon as being that old man (Rolen, only a year younger, is surrounded by veterans) and being a late bloomer (stuck in the Yankees organization after college, while Rolen came out of HS and called up to a last place team). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarlinsinPBC Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 Lowell stays healthy????? I love the guy but this statement is false Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSwift25 Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 I have had this argument in the past - especially before last season. I said I would take Lowell over Rolen and several people (on the MLB board, not here because I was suspended at the time) thought I was crazy. The reason? Lowell is more of a clutch hitter AND stays healthy. Rolen is always having injuries. Either way, you arent doing bad. I think Rolen may have more natural power than Lowell, but Lowell in a lot of ways is a better player. But Lowell is more important to his team than Rolen because of Pujols, Edmonds, and others in that lineup - the Cards have the bigger payroll and can get supplemental players. The Marlins have to bargain and develop young talent. Thank God they did though because the Marlins are a much better team... Yeah, Rolen is one of the biggest guys I have ever seen in person, so on pure power, Rolen runs away with it, but I think Mikey is a better hitter because he is pretty selective and I rarely see him swing at a first pitch unless it is just too tempting to not swing at. And Lowell is much more important to us than Rolen to the Cardinals because you can argue that the offense relies on Pujols and Edmonds and Rolen, while our O is pretty much just Cabrera and Lowell (Choi, but that was unexpected). Both guys are phenomenal players and I don't think that there is a convincing winner, but I give Rolen the slight edge if we're talking pure talent, but Lowell gets the most out of his ability... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreshFish Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 Rolen has more talent and natural skills (genetics play a role). But talent doesn't always translate in success. I'll still take Mike Lowell over Rolen. Mike Lowell has demonstrated that he is a proven performer, established leader and a team player. Lowell is way underrated for what he does, even with his estellar 2003 season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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