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http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/columns/stor...yson&id=1801828

 

The vibes in Florida suggest that the Marlins are increasingly likely to wind up staying in Miami and building their retractable-domed ballpark near the Orange Bowl.

 

The completion of local funding depends on the city being able to sell the old Miami Arena, but all sides appear confident of that. So the remaining financial piece would be the $30 million the team has been seeking from the state, through a sales-tax rebate.

 

It now seems probable the Marlins will attempt to go back to the legislature in the fall, once all the other dots have been connected, and try one last time. But at this point, it's harder than ever to envision the community letting the team bolt Florida over an amount that represents such a small percentage of a $325-million package -- or the team even wanting to bolt in the first place.

The Marlins are getting good reports on Chad Fox's elbow. But they continue to hunt for set-up help. Teams that have spoken with them say they've inquired about Milwaukee's Luis Vizcaino, Kansas City's Mike MacDougal and Cincinnati's John Riedling. But none of those clubs is in selling mode yet.

 

 

One front-office man said he'd heard rumblings of a three-way deal among the Marlins, Reds and Yankees in which Jose Contreras would have been the centerpiece. But there doesn't appear to be any substance to that one.

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If we were to get Contreras to be a 7th inning guy/long reliever/starter insurance, I'm all for it...but not at his $8 mil price tag. I've seen the guy pitch this year at Yankee Stadium, and I was impressed with what I saw. He has a ton of late movement on his splitter, and he had the look of a guy who tried to strike everyone out because of the shaky defense behind him. I'm all in favor of him coming here...could be the steal of the century if we give up a mid-prospect and they pay some of his salary.

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do you not understand that we couldnt afford Contreras?

 

guess not.

I understand...

 

but he only gets paid so much because he plays on the Yankees and the Yankees will pay players anything just so they will play on their team. So if the Yankees get rid of him then he wont demand so much money from another team because he is only getting a lot of money because he is on the Yanks. When he leaves the Yankees he wont be worth so much. And if the Yankees want to get rid of him than that means that he isnt that good.

 

Anyways-he is getting paid a lot because he is on the Yankees and the Yankees can afford to pay a player like him that much. But other teams can't. So if the Yankees get rid of him he won't be worth that much. And thus we would be able to afford him.

 

:)

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do you not understand that we couldnt afford Contreras?

 

guess not.

I understand...

 

but he only gets paid so much because he plays on the Yankees and the Yankees will pay players anything just so they will play on their team. So if the Yankees get rid of him then he wont demand so much money from another team because he is only getting a lot of money because he is on the Yanks. When he leaves the Yankees he wont be worth so much. And if the Yankees want to get rid of him than that means that he isnt that good.

 

Anyways-he is getting paid a lot because he is on the Yankees and the Yankees can afford to pay a player like him that much. But other teams can't. So if the Yankees get rid of him he won't be worth that much. And thus we would be able to afford him.

 

:) :plain

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do you not understand that we couldnt afford Contreras?

 

guess not.

I understand...

 

but he only gets paid so much because he plays on the Yankees and the Yankees will pay players anything just so they will play on their team. So if the Yankees get rid of him then he wont demand so much money from another team because he is only getting a lot of money because he is on the Yanks. When he leaves the Yankees he wont be worth so much. And if the Yankees want to get rid of him than that means that he isnt that good.

 

Anyways-he is getting paid a lot because he is on the Yankees and the Yankees can afford to pay a player like him that much. But other teams can't. So if the Yankees get rid of him he won't be worth that much. And thus we would be able to afford him.

 

:) :plain :mischief

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when someone makes $8mil on one team, if they were to be traded to another team, THEY STILL MAKE $8MIL

I'm talking about the Yankees getting rid of him-than the Marlins pick him up. eh we wouldnt have first dibs at him anyway

 

and I doubt they say so long to him

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when someone makes $8mil on one team, if they were to be traded to another team, THEY STILL MAKE $8MIL

I'm talking about the Yankees getting rid of him-than the Marlins pick him up. eh we wouldnt have first dibs at him anyway

 

and I doubt they say so long to him Anything can happen...

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I think that deal would have left the Reds with Contreres, us with Riedling, and the Yankees with whatever else was involved.

The Reds wouldn't touch an 8 million dollar contract in Contreras. That's even less likely than us taking it on.

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do you not understand that we couldnt afford Contreras?

 

guess not.

I understand...

 

but he only gets paid so much because he plays on the Yankees and the Yankees will pay players anything just so they will play on their team. So if the Yankees get rid of him then he wont demand so much money from another team because he is only getting a lot of money because he is on the Yanks. When he leaves the Yankees he wont be worth so much. And if the Yankees want to get rid of him than that means that he isnt that good.

 

Anyways-he is getting paid a lot because he is on the Yankees and the Yankees can afford to pay a player like him that much. But other teams can't. So if the Yankees get rid of him he won't be worth that much. And thus we would be able to afford him.

 

:) uh?

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do you not understand that we couldnt afford Contreras?

 

guess not.

I understand...

 

but he only gets paid so much because he plays on the Yankees and the Yankees will pay players anything just so they will play on their team. So if the Yankees get rid of him then he wont demand so much money from another team because he is only getting a lot of money because he is on the Yanks. When he leaves the Yankees he wont be worth so much. And if the Yankees want to get rid of him than that means that he isnt that good.

 

Anyways-he is getting paid a lot because he is on the Yankees and the Yankees can afford to pay a player like him that much. But other teams can't. So if the Yankees get rid of him he won't be worth that much. And thus we would be able to afford him.

 

:) :plain Amen

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I doubt we are the ones trying to get Contreras, but you never know.

 

If we did, that would be a huge lift to this bullpen. He would be an excellent set up man/long relief guy and would thrive with this team in this climate. Just look at Benitez. Plus, it would give us the option of moving Oliver to the pen and keeping Contreras in the starting rotation. That would be very, very nice.

 

Or, just for the sake of argument, deal Pavano and SeaBass for Nomar... :mischief

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do you not understand that we couldnt afford Contreras?

 

guess not.

I understand...

 

but he only gets paid so much because he plays on the Yankees and the Yankees will pay players anything just so they will play on their team. So if the Yankees get rid of him then he wont demand so much money from another team because he is only getting a lot of money because he is on the Yanks. When he leaves the Yankees he wont be worth so much. And if the Yankees want to get rid of him than that means that he isnt that good.

 

Anyways-he is getting paid a lot because he is on the Yankees and the Yankees can afford to pay a player like him that much. But other teams can't. So if the Yankees get rid of him he won't be worth that much. And thus we would be able to afford him.

 

:) holy crap. thats some serious gold right there partner.

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do you not understand that we couldnt afford Contreras?

 

guess not.

I understand...

 

but he only gets paid so much because he plays on the Yankees and the Yankees will pay players anything just so they will play on their team. So if the Yankees get rid of him then he wont demand so much money from another team because he is only getting a lot of money because he is on the Yanks. When he leaves the Yankees he wont be worth so much. And if the Yankees want to get rid of him than that means that he isnt that good.

 

Anyways-he is getting paid a lot because he is on the Yankees and the Yankees can afford to pay a player like him that much. But other teams can't. So if the Yankees get rid of him he won't be worth that much. And thus we would be able to afford him.

 

:) I'm sorry but... :lol :lol :lol

 

Seriously though, Contreras has something called a CONTRACT which guarantees him a certain amount of money through a certain amount of years/games.

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