TealMonster Posted May 19, 2004 Share Posted May 19, 2004 i think the marlins should not change there name to miami marlins! florida marlins sounds right, miami marlins sounds like a AAA team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapeFish Posted May 19, 2004 Share Posted May 19, 2004 The Marlins are leaving out the name of the team as leverage and have not indicated their future in that respect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBMarlin Posted May 19, 2004 Share Posted May 19, 2004 I prefer we stay with tradition and keep the Florida Marlins name. However, I don't see it as that big of a deal, and will support the team just as much if they become the Miami Marlins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Moneyball Posted May 19, 2004 Share Posted May 19, 2004 Miami will look good on the uni. i really don't like teams representing a whole state. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebirth Posted May 19, 2004 Share Posted May 19, 2004 i really don't like teams representing a whole state. Me either but Miami Marlins doesn't sound good as Florida Marlins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Fritz Posted May 19, 2004 Share Posted May 19, 2004 I don't care either way, but I don't really care to see them change the logo to change the Marlin from going around the F into going around an M. So, I guess, Florida should stick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miami15 Posted May 19, 2004 Share Posted May 19, 2004 As long as it isn't like Las Vegas Marlins I don't care. But if the city comes through and gives money, it should be called the Miami Marlins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flasportsfan88 Posted May 19, 2004 Share Posted May 19, 2004 Um how does florida marlins sound better than miami marlins, its only cuz ur used to florida,Miami Marlins def has a better ring to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djm305 Posted May 19, 2004 Share Posted May 19, 2004 i really don't like teams representing a whole state. Me either but Miami Marlins doesn't sound good as Florida Marlins. I gotta say, that is the best damn avatar I have seen! Who is that? Damn she can move that booty :thumbup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarlinsMY Posted May 19, 2004 Share Posted May 19, 2004 Definitely Florida Marlins. Miami just sounds somewhat limiting to only one city. ...Not that it would matter anyway to a fan from Maine. :lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramp Posted May 19, 2004 Share Posted May 19, 2004 i really don't like teams representing a whole state. Me either but Miami Marlins doesn't sound good as Florida Marlins. I gotta say, that is the best damn avatar I have seen! Who is that? Damn she can move that booty :thumbup that would be Shakira Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyLowellLuver1911 Posted May 19, 2004 Share Posted May 19, 2004 i like the miami marlins better cuz it represents our city not the whole state...but i like the logo with the F on it cuz with the M it would have the fish over the M not through it like the F....but i wouldnt mind as long as it represents our city Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g8trz2003 Posted May 19, 2004 Share Posted May 19, 2004 Miami localizes it. Why not get support from the whole state...for that matter, all of SoFla Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanleylicious Posted May 19, 2004 Share Posted May 19, 2004 Miami pays the taxes therefore I think it should be the Miami Marlins Miami Marlins also DOES definately have a better ring to it than Florida Marlins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Juanky Posted May 19, 2004 Share Posted May 19, 2004 Miami localizes it. Why not get support from the whole state...for that matter, all of SoFla Because when push came to shove Miami was the only one that put its money where its mouth was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g8trz2003 Posted May 19, 2004 Share Posted May 19, 2004 when push comes to shove? They didn't look outside of SoFla....central Florida sure as hell doesn't root for TB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miami15 Posted May 19, 2004 Share Posted May 19, 2004 when push comes to shove? They didn't look outside of SoFla....central Florida sure as hell doesn't root for TB. Well why don't they call the Magic the Florida Magic? It's Miami's team, not Florida's. And Miami Marlins sounds better, just no one is used to it. Like Anahiem and California, which one sounds better, or which one are you used to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g8trz2003 Posted May 19, 2004 Share Posted May 19, 2004 they dont call the Magic the Florida Magic because it is in Orlando! It's never been away from Orlando, and probably won't (if it does, the name will change). The Magic represent the Orlando area (i.e. the area 1-1 1/2 hrs away from Orlando). The Marlins represent a larger span than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Juanky Posted May 19, 2004 Share Posted May 19, 2004 when push comes to shove? They didn't look outside of SoFla....central Florida sure as hell doesn't root for TB. The Marlins looked at Broward and Palm Beach County, where the "true fans" are. They weren't going to talk to Orlando and up, that is the Devil Rays' problem. This is a South Florida team, it doesn't belong to people in Tampa, St. Pete, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miami15 Posted May 19, 2004 Share Posted May 19, 2004 when push comes to shove? They didn't look outside of SoFla....central Florida sure as hell doesn't root for TB. The Marlins looked at Broward and Palm Beach County, where the "true fans" are. They weren't going to talk to Orlando and up, that is the Devil Rays' problem. This is a South Florida team, it doesn't belong to people in Tampa, St. Pete, etc. If the people up in Broward and PBC are such good fans (sure they're the majority, but what's the majority mean when the total is like 12K), how come the attendance still sucks, though the stadium is virtually in Broward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapeFish Posted May 19, 2004 Share Posted May 19, 2004 The debate makes no difference. If you stop being a fan because of a god darn name change, you shouldn't be a fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapeFish Posted May 19, 2004 Share Posted May 19, 2004 when push comes to shove? They didn't look outside of SoFla....central Florida sure as hell doesn't root for TB. The Marlins looked at Broward and Palm Beach County, where the "true fans" are. They weren't going to talk to Orlando and up, that is the Devil Rays' problem. This is a South Florida team, it doesn't belong to people in Tampa, St. Pete, etc. Actually, Orlando and Fort Myers are markets where the Marlins have a good hold and first right to refusal in terms of television. Get your facts straight. Why reduce the team's marketability when you can expand? The name change makes no difference to most (Miami Dolphins have lots of fans right?) but saying it is only a METRO SoFla team closes doors and burns bridges. It is the first Floridian team located in Miami. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miami15 Posted May 19, 2004 Share Posted May 19, 2004 when push comes to shove?? They didn't look outside of SoFla....central Florida sure as hell doesn't root for TB. The Marlins looked at Broward and Palm Beach County, where the "true fans" are. They weren't going to talk to Orlando and up, that is the Devil Rays' problem. This is a South Florida team, it doesn't belong to people in Tampa, St. Pete, etc. Actually, Orlando and Fort Myers are markets where the Marlins have a good hold and first right to refusal in terms of television. Get your facts straight. Why reduce the team's marketability when you can expand? The name change makes no difference to most (Miami Dolphins have lots of fans right?) but saying it is only a METRO SoFla team closes doors and burns bridges. It is the first Floridian team located in Miami. If someone in Orlando or somethign will only by a Marlins shirt because it says "Florida", what's the point? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapeFish Posted May 19, 2004 Share Posted May 19, 2004 You all must understand why the market in TV is important and why the name change can be touchy. Let me give you an example. Back before 1993, the Dolphins held all AFC territory in Florida exclusively. NBC (AFC rightsholder back then) was forced to air ALL Dolphins games on it's Florida stations from Miami to Jacksonville to Pensacola. (Excluding the sellout blackout rule which blacked out Miami, Palm Beach, and Fort Myers) When the Dolphins allowed the Jaguars to come in they lost Orlando and Northern Florida, where the fanbase is still big, and forced the local stations to choose which team would air in a conflict of schedules. To make the story short, the Dolphins lost market #20 overnight. Now that made sense because the Jags were closer and of the AFC as well. The Bucs lost no territory. Why? Because CBS (then NFC rightsholder) had no problem with schedules and could air the Bucs over a large part of the state. Now if Baseball returns to the arrangement it had in 1994-95, the Baseball Network as it was called, had 12 nights (6 on ABC and 6 on NBC) which only allowed NBC or ABC (whichever had the night) exclusive access to games. One game on every station that was regionally picked. Every other game was not televised. Baseball Tonight couldn't show ANY highlights until the last TBN game ended (usually at 1-2 am ET) During TBN we were fine because the Marlins were the only team in the state and by contract must be shown. When the Devil Rays were created, the Marlins gave up territory, but gained the right to overtake the D-Rays if this system was to ever be returned to. Same situation happened in New York, LA, Chicago and San Fran. One team was on TV, the other was radio only and they would be at the mercy of the network affiliate. Indications are MLB would like to bring back this type of TV contract after the current one with FOX is up because it made money. The moral short and sweet is don't give up anything in baseball to another team unless you have to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapeFish Posted May 19, 2004 Share Posted May 19, 2004 If you doubt my territory argument, look at the Giants and A's fighting with MLB over the South Bay only being the Giants territory. Back 10-20 years ago it was nothing, now the giants (the weaker team back then) holds all of Silicon Valley exclusively. The A's want to move there, but can't because of territory restrictions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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