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Guest Fritz

I don't care either way, but I don't really care to see them change the logo to change the Marlin from going around the F into going around an M. So, I guess, Florida should stick.

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i really don't like teams representing a whole state.

 

Me either but Miami Marlins doesn't sound good as Florida Marlins. I gotta say, that is the best damn avatar I have seen! Who is that? Damn she can move that booty :thumbup

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i really don't like teams representing a whole state.

 

Me either but Miami Marlins doesn't sound good as Florida Marlins. I gotta say, that is the best damn avatar I have seen! Who is that? Damn she can move that booty :thumbup that would be Shakira

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Miami localizes it. Why not get support from the whole state...for that matter, all of SoFla

Because when push came to shove Miami was the only one that put its money where its mouth was.

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when push comes to shove? They didn't look outside of SoFla....central Florida sure as hell doesn't root for TB.

Well why don't they call the Magic the Florida Magic?

 

It's Miami's team, not Florida's.

 

And Miami Marlins sounds better, just no one is used to it.

 

Like Anahiem and California, which one sounds better, or which one are you used to?

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they dont call the Magic the Florida Magic because it is in Orlando! It's never been away from Orlando, and probably won't (if it does, the name will change). The Magic represent the Orlando area (i.e. the area 1-1 1/2 hrs away from Orlando). The Marlins represent a larger span than that.

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when push comes to shove? They didn't look outside of SoFla....central Florida sure as hell doesn't root for TB.

The Marlins looked at Broward and Palm Beach County, where the "true fans" are. They weren't going to talk to Orlando and up, that is the Devil Rays' problem. This is a South Florida team, it doesn't belong to people in Tampa, St. Pete, etc.

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when push comes to shove? They didn't look outside of SoFla....central Florida sure as hell doesn't root for TB.

The Marlins looked at Broward and Palm Beach County, where the "true fans" are. They weren't going to talk to Orlando and up, that is the Devil Rays' problem. This is a South Florida team, it doesn't belong to people in Tampa, St. Pete, etc. If the people up in Broward and PBC are such good fans (sure they're the majority, but what's the majority mean when the total is like 12K), how come the attendance still sucks, though the stadium is virtually in Broward.

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when push comes to shove? They didn't look outside of SoFla....central Florida sure as hell doesn't root for TB.

The Marlins looked at Broward and Palm Beach County, where the "true fans" are. They weren't going to talk to Orlando and up, that is the Devil Rays' problem. This is a South Florida team, it doesn't belong to people in Tampa, St. Pete, etc. Actually, Orlando and Fort Myers are markets where the Marlins have a good hold and first right to refusal in terms of television.

 

Get your facts straight. Why reduce the team's marketability when you can expand? The name change makes no difference to most (Miami Dolphins have lots of fans right?) but saying it is only a METRO SoFla team closes doors and burns bridges.

 

It is the first Floridian team located in Miami.

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when push comes to shove?? They didn't look outside of SoFla....central Florida sure as hell doesn't root for TB.

The Marlins looked at Broward and Palm Beach County, where the "true fans" are. They weren't going to talk to Orlando and up, that is the Devil Rays' problem. This is a South Florida team, it doesn't belong to people in Tampa, St. Pete, etc. Actually, Orlando and Fort Myers are markets where the Marlins have a good hold and first right to refusal in terms of television.

 

Get your facts straight. Why reduce the team's marketability when you can expand? The name change makes no difference to most (Miami Dolphins have lots of fans right?) but saying it is only a METRO SoFla team closes doors and burns bridges.

 

It is the first Floridian team located in Miami. If someone in Orlando or somethign will only by a Marlins shirt because it says "Florida", what's the point?

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You all must understand why the market in TV is important and why the name change can be touchy.

 

Let me give you an example.

 

Back before 1993, the Dolphins held all AFC territory in Florida exclusively. NBC (AFC rightsholder back then) was forced to air ALL Dolphins games on it's Florida stations from Miami to Jacksonville to Pensacola. (Excluding the sellout blackout rule which blacked out Miami, Palm Beach, and Fort Myers)

 

When the Dolphins allowed the Jaguars to come in they lost Orlando and Northern Florida, where the fanbase is still big, and forced the local stations to choose which team would air in a conflict of schedules.

 

To make the story short, the Dolphins lost market #20 overnight. Now that made sense because the Jags were closer and of the AFC as well. The Bucs lost no territory. Why? Because CBS (then NFC rightsholder) had no problem with schedules and could air the Bucs over a large part of the state.

 

Now if Baseball returns to the arrangement it had in 1994-95, the Baseball Network as it was called, had 12 nights (6 on ABC and 6 on NBC) which only allowed NBC or ABC (whichever had the night) exclusive access to games. One game on every station that was regionally picked. Every other game was not televised. Baseball Tonight couldn't show ANY highlights until the last TBN game ended (usually at 1-2 am ET)

 

During TBN we were fine because the Marlins were the only team in the state and by contract must be shown. When the Devil Rays were created, the Marlins gave up territory, but gained the right to overtake the D-Rays if this system was to ever be returned to.

 

Same situation happened in New York, LA, Chicago and San Fran. One team was on TV, the other was radio only and they would be at the mercy of the network affiliate.

 

Indications are MLB would like to bring back this type of TV contract after the current one with FOX is up because it made money.

 

The moral short and sweet is don't give up anything in baseball to another team unless you have to.

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If you doubt my territory argument, look at the Giants and A's fighting with MLB over the South Bay only being the Giants territory.

 

Back 10-20 years ago it was nothing, now the giants (the weaker team back then) holds all of Silicon Valley exclusively. The A's want to move there, but can't because of territory restrictions.

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