Damien Black Posted July 8, 2004 Share Posted July 8, 2004 Am I the only one who feel kind of bad for Abraham Nu?ez? This guy has been on the team the entire year, had a great spring training, yet gets no play time except maybe an inning in right field during a blowout game or the occasional pinch run. I know that he's been kind of stupid lately, demanding trades and such, and a lot of you will say that he is lucky to be on a major league team, but he got a chance to prove himself in spring training yet he gets no play time. He has pretty good speed, can field his possition, and I'm sure his hitting would improve if he played regularly. Connine hasn't been too hot as of late and instead of giving Nu?ez some starts, they bring in some minor leaguers. They already have an extra fielder why not use him? I've got nothing against Aguilar or Willingham, but I don't think it's fair that he gets tossed aside because some guys were doing pretty good in AAA. What do you guys think about Nu?ez and the Marlins right now? Is Jack biased? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapeFish Posted July 8, 2004 Share Posted July 8, 2004 He was given chances and did nothing of substance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TealMonster Posted July 8, 2004 Share Posted July 8, 2004 they need to hurry up and trade him already :thumbup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calvinball Posted July 8, 2004 Share Posted July 8, 2004 Complaining to the media about PT doesn't win many friends in the dugout. It wins fewer friends on the coaching staff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Fillet Posted July 8, 2004 Share Posted July 8, 2004 HE had his chance and proved nothing except that he was a malcontent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Black Posted July 8, 2004 Author Share Posted July 8, 2004 I don't know if I'd call 53 ABs a chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rferry Posted July 8, 2004 Share Posted July 8, 2004 Complaining to the media about PT doesn't win many friends in the dugout. It wins fewer friends on the coaching staff. 446493[/snapback] What he said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calvinball Posted July 8, 2004 Share Posted July 8, 2004 Complaining to the media about PT doesn't win many friends in the dugout. It wins fewer friends on the coaching staff. 446493[/snapback] I should add, it doesn't win many fans in the stands either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rferry Posted July 8, 2004 Share Posted July 8, 2004 By the time Damion Easley had 53 at bats he had long shown what he could do and earned a nice role for himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madman81 Posted July 8, 2004 Share Posted July 8, 2004 I don't know if I'd call 53 ABs a chance. 446501[/snapback] I agree with you. He deserved a good weeks of playing time at least. Some people cant get it goin unless they get a startin chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Black Posted July 8, 2004 Author Share Posted July 8, 2004 By the time Damion Easley had 53 at bats he had long shown what he could do and earned a nice role for himself. 446537[/snapback] A lot of guys were off to slow starts this year. Alex Rodriguez had a really slow start and look at him now. I'm not saying that Nu?ez is or will ever be on the same level as Arod, but maybe he is just off to a slow start. Anyhow, I think it's too late to give him a chance now. No one assosiated with our team seems to like him, so the guy obviously isn't gonna be given a chance. I just hope that I'm wrong and he really is a horrible player. I'd hate to see it bite us in the ass after we get rid of him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rferry Posted July 8, 2004 Share Posted July 8, 2004 First he was next Babe Ruth now he's not even A-Rod. Kidding. I do feel sorry for Nunez every time I watch Lenny Harris come to bat. But fact is because of our payroll and outfield depth he's getting more playing time than most contending teams would have given him. In some way I think he really does want to help the team or another team, not just his career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Fillet Posted July 8, 2004 Share Posted July 8, 2004 I just hope that I'm wrong and he really is a horrible player. I'd hate to see it bite us in the ass after we get rid of him. Fact is he's probably a pretty good player, and might even be great one day. But because of no one's actions but his own he's guaranteed that he will never be a great player here. And that's all that matters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miami 305 Posted July 8, 2004 Share Posted July 8, 2004 By the time Damion Easley had 53 at bats he had long shown what he could do and earned a nice role for himself. 446537[/snapback] A lot of guys were off to slow starts this year. Alex Rodriguez had a really slow start and look at him now. I'm not saying that Nu?ez is or will ever be on the same level as Arod, but maybe he is just off to a slow start. Anyhow, I think it's too late to give him a chance now. No one assosiated with our team seems to like him, so the guy obviously isn't gonna be given a chance. I just hope that I'm wrong and he really is a horrible player. I'd hate to see it bite us in the ass after we get rid of him. 446567[/snapback] He is not AROD and has had chances....when ur trying to prove urself u dont get 100 +ab's if ur trying to prove urself and havent in 53 ab's its off u go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FutureGM Posted July 8, 2004 Share Posted July 8, 2004 I've watched Nunez all year batting, and I don't see much talent there. He swings at just about everything they throw at him, and he looks really nervous. I also don't understand why someone who was just promoted to the big leagues wants to start. I didn't see Chris Aguila, Matt Treanor, or Josh Willingham speaking out to the media demanding a starting job. He's being an idiot, and I hope we trade him quickly before his trade value becomes nothing. He's had plenty of chances, and has failed miserably the whole time. In one game that he started, he managed to hit into THREE double plays, eventually leading to a Marlins loss. So long Nunez, maybe Kansas City will let you start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnylons Posted July 8, 2004 Share Posted July 8, 2004 Nunez has talent. I dont care how lucky you are, you just dont hit 10 home runs in ST without having SOME ability. And yes, I think Nunez should have gotten more PT - especially if Conine is as injured as some have suggested. Conine needs his rest in order to recover and for whatever reason, Jack opted to play Conine instead of Nunez - which is very short-sighted in my opinion. I also think if Nunez gets a chance to start everyday on a team, and without the pressure of being yanked for a bad day, he could blossom into a solid OFer. That all said, his demands are comical, but not without founding. And his trade value is very minimal - if I was a GM, I would take a chance on him. In fact, this is precisely the kind of situation you would see Beinfest take advantage of if the situation were reversed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Posted July 8, 2004 Share Posted July 8, 2004 he really has no one to blame but himself. you can't just hand over a starting a role to a career minor leauger just because he says so, nothing is given to someone especially not on a world championship team where at the start of the season the 3 outfielders that won the world series were starting and here comes Nunez demanding to be given a starting position in the outfield. what teams can he be traded to anyways where he would be handed a starting position? he's gonna be a bench player no matter where he goes until he starts doing something that makes it hard for the manager to keep him out of the line up. and if he was really good wouldn't he have been up to the majors before this season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minus Posted July 8, 2004 Share Posted July 8, 2004 Nunez has talent. I dont care how lucky you are, you just dont hit 10 home runs in ST without having SOME ability. And yes, I think Nunez should have gotten more PT - especially if Conine is as injured as some have suggested. Conine needs his rest in order to recover and for whatever reason, Jack opted to play Conine instead of Nunez - which is very short-sighted in my opinion. I also think if Nunez gets a chance to start everyday on a team, and without the pressure of being yanked for a bad day, he could blossom into a solid OFer. That all said, his demands are comical, but not without founding. And his trade value is very minimal - if I was a GM, I would take a chance on him. In fact, this is precisely the kind of situation you would see Beinfest take advantage of if the situation were reversed. 446800[/snapback] :thumbup Jack plays musical chair too much with his lineups. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flag Man Posted July 8, 2004 Share Posted July 8, 2004 By the time Damion Easley had 53 at bats he had long shown what he could do and earned a nice role for himself. 446537[/snapback] Anyhow, I think it's too late to give him a chance now. No one assosiated with our team seems to like him, so the guy obviously isn't gonna be given a chance. I just hope that I'm wrong and he really is a horrible player. I'd hate to see it bite us in the ass after we get rid of him. 446567[/snapback] I agree. Kind of like a Hollandsworth scenario but this time poisoned by things including Jack's Bias. If Nunez has not been "professional" in keeping his disappointment quiet, at least he didn't slither off in shame like Castro. Nunez wants to play. We put him in (CORRECTLY) for Cabrera for Defense. He's doing lousy at the plate but he isn't trying to do a miracle in one at bat. He is patient and "professional," albeit inadequate to date. I like Willingham. I like Aguilla. I'd like to see Dillon. But, "I'd hate to see it bite us in the ass after we get rid on Nunez." Particularly if we never gave him a chance because of some internal bias. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marlins2003 Posted July 8, 2004 Share Posted July 8, 2004 I've watched Nunez all year batting, and I don't see much talent there. He swings at just about everything they throw at him, and he looks really nervous. I also don't understand why someone who was just promoted to the big leagues wants to start. I didn't see Chris Aguila, Matt Treanor, or Josh Willingham speaking out to the media demanding a starting job. He's being an idiot, and I hope we trade him quickly before his trade value becomes nothing. He's had plenty of chances, and has failed miserably the whole time. In one game that he started, he managed to hit into THREE double plays, eventually leading to a Marlins loss. So long Nunez, maybe Kansas City will let you start. 446667[/snapback] That's why you'll never be a GM, because YOU don't see any talent there. Look at what Nunez did in AAA last season hitting .355, what he did in winter bal - runnerup for MVP - and then spring training, obviously the talent is there. I love Jack McKeon but what you're seeing is the side of him that you hear Kruk and other McKeon-loathers spouting, that once you're in his doghouse you stay there. Nunez isn't some 22 year old rookie who knows if he doesn't make it this year he'll have his shot next season, he's in his late twenties and knows if he doesn't get a shot this season his career may for all intents and purposes may be over. I do think he could have handled his situation better, no doubt, but Jack seems to enjoy pouring gasoline on the fire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnylons Posted July 8, 2004 Share Posted July 8, 2004 I've watched Nunez all year batting, and I don't see much talent there. He swings at just about everything they throw at him, and he looks really nervous. I also don't understand why someone who was just promoted to the big leagues wants to start. I didn't see Chris Aguila, Matt Treanor, or Josh Willingham speaking out to the media demanding a starting job. He's being an idiot, and I hope we trade him quickly before his trade value becomes nothing. He's had plenty of chances, and has failed miserably the whole time. In one game that he started, he managed to hit into THREE double plays, eventually leading to a Marlins loss. So long Nunez, maybe Kansas City will let you start. 446667[/snapback] That's why you'll never be a GM, because YOU don't see any talent there. Look at what Nunez did in AAA last season hitting .355, what he did in winter bal - runnerup for MVP - and then spring training, obviously the talent is there. I love Jack McKeon but what you're seeing is the side of him that you hear Kruk and other McKeon-loathers spouting, that once you're in his doghouse you stay there. Nunez isn't some 22 year old rookie who knows if he doesn't make it this year he'll have his shot next season, he's in his late twenties and knows if he doesn't get a shot this season his career may for all intents and purposes may be over. I do think he could have handled his situation better, no doubt, but Jack seems to enjoy pouring gasoline on the fire. 446894[/snapback] I agree. I too have noticed this Kruk/Dibble monster McKeon. He may have gotten the last laugh last year, but this year it is starting to look bad. No wonder he is usually a short term manager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotcorner Posted July 8, 2004 Share Posted July 8, 2004 I'm no big fan of Nunez, but when he's last off the bench, after Mordy, Harris, and (fill in the blank with the latest minor league callup here) it's getting a bit ridiculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Juanky Posted July 8, 2004 Share Posted July 8, 2004 You forgot Willis being called on ahead of them all Which I don't disagree with because I think he's been the best in pinch hit spots, or if not #2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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