Rune Posted July 15, 2004 Share Posted July 15, 2004 Reggie Taylor, just think The Phils were this close from getting Pettite for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MVPosey Posted July 15, 2004 Share Posted July 15, 2004 something interesting: the top pitching and hitting prospect from the last 15 years (guys in bold are guys that belong on this list) 2004: Zack Greinke KC/ Joe Mauer MIN 2003: Jesse Foppert SF/ Mark Teixeira TEX 2002: Josh Beckett FLA/ Sean Burroughs SD 2001: Ben Sheets MIL/ Josh Hamilton TB 2000: Rick Ankiel STL/ Corey Patterson CHC 1999: Rich Ankiel STL/ J.D. Drew STL 1998: Kerry Wood CHC/ Travis Lee ARZ 1997: Kerry Wood CHC/ Andruw Jones ATL 1996: Paul Wilson NYM/ Andruw Jones ATL 1995: Alan Benes STL/ Ruben Rivera NYY 1994: Salomon Torres SF/ Cliff Floyd MON 1993: Brien Taylor NYY/ Chipper Jones ATL 1992: Todd Van Poppell OAK/ Wilfredo Cordero MON 1991: Todd Van Poppell OAK/ Tino MArtinez SEA 1990: Steve Avery ATL/ Sandy Alomar Jr. CLE which of these guys belong on the list Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nugget Posted July 15, 2004 Share Posted July 15, 2004 something interesting: the top pitching and hitting prospect from the last 15 years (guys in bold are guys that belong on this list) 2004: Zack Greinke KC/ Joe Mauer MIN 2003: Jesse Foppert SF/ Mark Teixeira TEX 2002: Josh Beckett FLA/ Sean Burroughs SD 2001: Ben Sheets MIL/ Josh Hamilton TB 2000: Rick Ankiel STL/ Corey Patterson CHC 1999: Rich Ankiel STL/ J.D. Drew STL 1998: Kerry Wood CHC/ Travis Lee ARZ 1997: Kerry Wood CHC/ Andruw Jones ATL 1996: Paul Wilson NYM/ Andruw Jones ATL 1995: Alan Benes STL/ Ruben Rivera NYY 1994: Salomon Torres SF/ Cliff Floyd MON 1993: Brien Taylor NYY/ Chipper Jones ATL 1992: Todd Van Poppell OAK/ Wilfredo Cordero MON 1991: Todd Van Poppell OAK/ Tino MArtinez SEA 1990: Steve Avery ATL/ Sandy Alomar Jr. CLE which of these guys belong on the list 458597[/snapback] Avery Van Poppell Taylor is a huge one. Torres was the number 1 pitching prospect? Damn Rivera Wilson Ankiel so far Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odom006 Posted July 15, 2004 Share Posted July 15, 2004 other canidates are..... Chan Hoe Park..... mark Wollers... El Dudu hernendez David Justice Dean Palmer Greg Vaughn Alex Fernandez Steve Avrey jose Canseco Cecil Fielder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramp Posted July 15, 2004 Share Posted July 15, 2004 Don't forget Rick Ankiel. Whatever happened to him? He was supposed to be the next big thing 458501[/snapback] He had Tommy John last year and is hoping to pitch in the minors later this year. He's still 24 years old so if he could figure it out quickly he could still have a good career. 458518[/snapback] I heard they are trying to make him a hitter fulltime Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passion Posted July 15, 2004 Share Posted July 15, 2004 Is he still with the cardinals? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nc marlin Posted July 15, 2004 Share Posted July 15, 2004 Is he still with the cardinals? 458875[/snapback] Yeah, but I think if he doesn't make the 40 man by like Sept. he becomes a FA. Not sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passion Posted July 15, 2004 Share Posted July 15, 2004 Do you read Baseball America? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nc marlin Posted July 15, 2004 Share Posted July 15, 2004 Do you read Baseball America? 458896[/snapback] yep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FutureGM Posted July 15, 2004 Share Posted July 15, 2004 My picks: -Jose Canseco -Darryl Strawberry -Jeff Allison (if he doesn't make a comeback) -Josh Hamilton -Greg "Toe" Nash (former D-Rays prospect who got in trouble with the law several times, and despite amazing talent, is out of baseball) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passion Posted July 15, 2004 Share Posted July 15, 2004 Do you read Baseball America? 458896[/snapback] yep 458900[/snapback] Is it worth a subscription? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passion Posted July 15, 2004 Share Posted July 15, 2004 My picks: -Jose Canseco -Darryl Strawberry -Jeff Allison (if he doesn't make a comeback) -Josh Hamilton -Greg "Toe" Nash (former D-Rays prospect who got in trouble with the law several times, and despite amazing talent, is out of baseball) 458906[/snapback] Josh Hamilton will be back someday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nc marlin Posted July 15, 2004 Share Posted July 15, 2004 Do you read Baseball America? 458896[/snapback] yep 458900[/snapback] Is it worth a subscription? 458907[/snapback] eh, I like it... it really came in handy during the draft. I wish I had an online subscription because I could get news sooner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreshFish Posted July 15, 2004 Author Share Posted July 15, 2004 I don't think you should consider players that never or haven't made it to the Majors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passion Posted July 15, 2004 Share Posted July 15, 2004 Why not? If someone was tared highly or was a high draft pick and doesnt make it, that would be a waste. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaGreatOne Posted July 15, 2004 Share Posted July 15, 2004 Jack Mckeon.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
METSrosexual Posted July 15, 2004 Share Posted July 15, 2004 yeah im gonna have to go with the Straw man on this one, though i hate to say it. waaay too much talent to be pissed away on drugs. id also put his buddy Doc Gooden up there too, as he had the same problem, just not as bad. it still affected his legacy. Canseco, my favorite player of all time, would without doubt be in the 700 HR club if not for the wasted mid-late 90s in which he couldnt play more than 50 games a year. quickest bat ive ever seen. anyone know what happened to Vince Coleman?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nugget Posted July 15, 2004 Share Posted July 15, 2004 Vince Coleman had drug problems, I think. The fool had 4 straight seasons with 100 or more steals. I don't think we'll ever see that again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nugget Posted July 15, 2004 Share Posted July 15, 2004 Denny McLain definetly ranks up there. I'd also put Roger Maris in there too. He had some good to great years but his overall stats aren't good enough to land him in the hall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passion Posted July 15, 2004 Share Posted July 15, 2004 How did Maris...WASTE his career? Explain that to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreshFish Posted July 15, 2004 Author Share Posted July 15, 2004 Why not? If someone was tared highly or was a high draft pick and doesnt make it, that would be a waste. 459064[/snapback] It my opinion, someone that has not proven his abilities at the ML level shouldn't be called an All Time Wasted. Maybe All Time Bust Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passion Posted July 15, 2004 Share Posted July 15, 2004 But if thye had the talent and dont produce, they have essentially, waste their career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuickGold Posted July 15, 2004 Share Posted July 15, 2004 Steve Howe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MVPosey Posted July 16, 2004 Share Posted July 16, 2004 How can we forget: Bobby Bonds He would have been as good as his son and Willie if he didn't drink and smoke so much, and that's what probably eventually ended his life so soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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