Wild Card Posted June 18, 2003 Share Posted June 18, 2003 a good lefthanded bat. On his ESPN page it says he is a righty... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LiLLaz#8 Posted June 18, 2003 Share Posted June 18, 2003 Well, you could substitute TH fore Abe Nunez, and Redmond for Castro, and that not only gets rid of more money for us, but really would give the Padres better talent... I'm sure they'd want Castro over Redmond, he's the one with upside. I dunno...I guess they wouldn't be giving up much, but why have they been sitting on Castro all this time if they haven't thought he was worth keeping? Only problem with White is that he's an injury waiting to happen. He's an upgrade over Hollandsworth offensively (although who isn't right now) but in the outfield he may have the worst arm in baseball. Coming off a terrible season with the Yanks but seems to be playing better in SD this year. Would be a cool pickup to make a run though, & a good lefthanded bat. White's a righty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotcorner Posted June 18, 2003 Share Posted June 18, 2003 Hey no complaint from me, I love Red as a backup catcher. I just found it odd that they would sit on Castro all this time only to dump him now. (if it's true). And how could they possibly be keeping Pudge? There's just no money for this... If Willingham or Jourgensen is their answer, I guess we'll see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotcorner Posted June 18, 2003 Share Posted June 18, 2003 Hmmm....why was I thinking lefty? Nevermind. He's a good friend of Cliff Floyd's. They were like the twin injury bugs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapeFish Posted June 18, 2003 Share Posted June 18, 2003 -Left Field doesn't toll on the arm as much as the other postions of the outfield. It is the closest outfield position to the plate for a right hander. - In case he get injured we can play Banks in Left. -TH has to go -Castro is good, but we have to give up something, it is a trade. - If beinfest can pull this off, it would instill confidence amongst the fans and players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild Card Posted June 18, 2003 Share Posted June 18, 2003 I would think they would build the Catcher position around Willingham and Castro in the future... But if Castro has to go to get White, so be it... I don't want to see it, but I wouldn't mind too much... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild Card Posted June 18, 2003 Share Posted June 18, 2003 - If beinfest can pull this off, it would instill confidence amongst the fans and players. I'll second that... :w00t Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotcorner Posted June 18, 2003 Share Posted June 18, 2003 The original post included Hollandsworth in the rumor, but then said they wanted to keep Hollandsworth? Heck, absolutely include him if they make a deal for White. Oh, and speaking of attendance... I think attendance is already going to spike from the Dontrelle Willis excitement. I can't count the number of people I work with who've said "man I saw that game on TV, I've got to go see this kid next time he pitches!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild Card Posted June 18, 2003 Share Posted June 18, 2003 I would think they would insist TH to be in it... They do need someone to replace White, at least for the remainder of the season... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LiLLaz#8 Posted June 18, 2003 Share Posted June 18, 2003 We can have the best speedy outfield,and maybe best outfield?,but let me not get off-topic,so i think white can be a good acquisation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMLinkinPark Posted June 18, 2003 Share Posted June 18, 2003 We can have the best speedy outfield,and maybe best outfield?,but let me not get off-topic,so i think white can be a good acquisation. The Marlins arent even close really to the Best OF... Ya white would be a Quality Aquisition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malman Posted June 18, 2003 Share Posted June 18, 2003 Might make sense for them to have interest in Holly...he had a great series in SD, he's from Cali and his bro-in-law Herges is on the Padres. Go Beinfest. Get this deal done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapeFish Posted June 18, 2003 Share Posted June 18, 2003 What team(s) has he played for? Didn't he play for Atlanta before? What are his big faults? We need to learn a little bit more about him. How did he do vs. NL East pitchers? Any info would help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild Card Posted June 18, 2003 Share Posted June 18, 2003 Even if we acquired White, we wouldn't even have one of the top 10 best OF's... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LiLLaz#8 Posted June 18, 2003 Share Posted June 18, 2003 Even if we acquired White, we wouldn't even have one of the top 10 best OF's... Forget wat i said let's just stay on topic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapeFish Posted June 18, 2003 Share Posted June 18, 2003 MLB.com/Stats Inc. Stuff For White Hitting Stats: Next Stats >> SEASON TEAM G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI TB BB SO SB CS OBP SLG AVG 1993 Montreal Expos 23 73 9 19 3 1 2 15 30 7 16 1 2 .321 .411 .260 1994 Montreal Expos 40 97 16 27 10 1 2 13 45 9 18 1 1 .358 .464 .278 1995 Montreal Expos 130 474 87 140 33 4 13 57 220 41 87 25 5 .356 .464 .295 1996 Montreal Expos 88 334 35 98 19 4 6 41 143 22 53 14 6 .340 .428 .293 1997 Montreal Expos 151 592 84 160 29 5 28 82 283 31 111 16 8 .316 .478 .270 1998 Montreal Expos 97 357 54 107 21 2 17 58 183 30 57 16 7 .363 .513 .300 1999 Montreal Expos 138 539 83 168 26 6 22 64 272 32 85 10 6 .359 .505 .312 2000 Chicago Cubs 19 67 7 22 2 0 2 7 30 5 12 0 2 .392 .448 .328 2000 Montreal Expos 75 290 52 89 24 0 11 54 146 28 67 5 1 .370 .503 .307 2001 Chicago Cubs 95 323 43 99 19 1 17 50 171 26 56 1 0 .371 .529 .307 2002 New York Yankees 126 455 59 109 21 0 14 62 172 25 86 1 2 .288 .378 .240 2003 San Diego Padres 62 230 32 69 9 1 11 33 113 17 34 1 4 .352 .491 .300 Career Totals 1044 3831 561 1107 216 25 145 536 1808 273 682 91 44 .344 .472 .289 Fielding Stats: SEASON TEAM POS G GS INN TC PO A E DP PB SB CS FPCT 1993 Montreal Expos OF 21 --- --- 33 33 0 0 0 --- --- --- 1.000 1994 Montreal Expos OF 29 --- --- 37 34 1 2 0 --- --- --- .946 1995 Montreal Expos OF 119 --- --- 278 269 5 4 2 --- --- --- .986 1996 Montreal Expos OF 86 --- --- 192 185 5 2 1 --- --- --- .990 1997 Montreal Expos OF 151 --- --- 385 376 6 3 3 --- --- --- .992 1998 Montreal Expos OF 96 --- --- 269 261 7 1 3 --- --- --- .996 1999 Montreal Expos OF 135 134 1132.0 305 287 7 11 3 --- --- --- .964 2000 Chicago Cubs OF 18 18 143.2 41 41 0 0 0 --- --- --- 1.000 2000 Montreal Expos OF 74 74 614.2 162 157 4 1 1 --- --- --- .994 2001 Chicago Cubs OF 90 88 688.0 140 133 4 3 0 --- --- --- .979 2002 New York Yankees OF 113 106 951.2 249 246 3 0 0 --- --- --- 1.000 2003 San Diego Padres OF 60 58 477.0 100 93 4 3 1 --- --- --- .970 Career Totals 992 --- --- 2191 2115 46 30 14 --- --- --- .986 He played with the Spos! that's where i remember him in the NL east. He looks solid overall. Good defensively and offensively! LArry must score this deal! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild Card Posted June 18, 2003 Share Posted June 18, 2003 Don't get your hopes up... If it happens, great. If it doesn't , we will live. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotcorner Posted June 18, 2003 Share Posted June 18, 2003 Here's ESPN's scouting report on Rondell White: Scouting Report: 2002 Season In many ways, 2002 was the worst season of left fielder Rondell White's career. After signing a two-year deal with the Yankees, he got off to a slow start before rupturing a tendon in his left middle finger in June. He kept playing but never got his bat going, and by the time the playoffs came he'd been reduced to a part-time role. Hitting White is an aggressive line-drive hitter with fairly good power to all fields. He doesn't hit enough flyballs to be a consistent home-run threat, but he'd always hit for a good average until last year. Drawing walks is not part of his game, and he'll chase fastballs up and out of the strike zone. He's always hit well against southpaws, and continued to do so last year even as he struggled badly against righthanded pitchers. He likes to jump on the first pitch and does his best hitting early in the count. He's always drawn too few walks to be an ideal leadoff man, and hasn't had quite enough power to be a top-flight run producer. So when he doesn't hit for a good average, he fills no useful role at all. Baserunning & Defense White still has good speed, but years of knee problems have rendered him a nonthreat to steal and a much less aggressive baserunner overall for someone with his ability. He puts his mobility to good use in the outfield, where he has above-average range. His notoriously weak throwing arm is a major liability, even in left field. 2003 Outlook The outlook for White is the same as it's always been: he's capable of putting up good numbers if he can stay healthy, but his injury history makes that unlikely. Still, with the money the Yankees have invested in him, they likely will have to give him every chance to rebound if they are unable to trade him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LiLLaz#8 Posted June 18, 2003 Share Posted June 18, 2003 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ yup that's true but let's hope it happens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Fillet Posted June 18, 2003 Share Posted June 18, 2003 Why would the Marlins trade this early, and for White? A guy with 10Hr and 33 RBi is not exactly making my toes tingle. And as for the speculation that the Marlins are going to make some type of run at a wildcard spot - and the inference that they would to keep key players around for this run.... I can't see any reason why they would. They are 7 games back, have half the league in front of them in the standings, have a horrible schedule coming up, and would stand to get nothing at the end of the year for players that have some value now. Mark my words, if the Marlins keep these players around for a long-shot at the WC (Which it is, no two ways about it) it's a one shot deal.... And next year will be a train wreck. At the very least, the Marlins should be wating until after the AS break to assess the situation. I just can't see them making a move in June when they are so far out and have so much time left in the season. Maybe I just haven't got caought up in the Marlins' fever yet, but this seems like a head scratcher if it is true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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