November 21, 200421 yr Urbina may be put on block Around the leagues The Tigers will look to trade Ugueth Urbina now that Troy Percival has signed a two-year, $12-million deal to be their closer. Look for the White Sox and Marlins to be the top competitors for Urbina ... The Mariners are going aggressively after free agents Troy Glaus and Carlos Delgado ... Having lost shortstop Cristian Guzman to an outrageous four-year, $16-million deal with the Expos (soon to be the Nationals), the Twins could replace him with a rookie, Jason Bartlett.
November 21, 200421 yr Unless he costs next to nothing, I say no. I'm not a big fan of trading for the same guy twice.
November 21, 200421 yr Unless he costs next to nothing, I say no. I'm not a big fan of trading for the same guy twice. 618991[/snapback] I totally agree, there is just something about taking a guy back that really bothers me, and frankly I didn't like him when he was here the first time.
November 21, 200421 yr The big question mark regarding Urbina is not his ability but rather whether he will pitch again after the kidnapping. I don't think even the Tigers know whether he'll suit up for the 2005 season. And not to diasgree with Flamarlins3 because he's entitled to his opinion, I don't see why the fact that a player has been with the Marlins in the past should preclude him from being a Fish again.
November 21, 200421 yr And not to diasgree with Flamarlins3 because he's entitled to his opinion, I don't see why the fact that a player has been with the Marlins in the past should preclude him from being a Fish again. 618998[/snapback] Well reason I said that was because we gave up a bunch the first time. And we had the opportunity to get him last season in the offseason, but decided to let him go. And now we want him back? Probably would have to give up a bunch more to get him. It just makes me feel that we spent an incredible amount for this guy to play a season and a half with us. Not to mention his salary is 4-5 million I think. I agree though I forgot about the kidnapping situation. I don't think I have read anything about that being resolved yet. That right there should make any team hesitant towards getting him.
November 21, 200421 yr He would really help our pen. We just can't give up too much (maybe a B rated prospect).
November 21, 200421 yr He would really help our pen. We just can't give up too much (maybe a B rated prospect). 619027[/snapback] Welcome back!
November 21, 200421 yr Well my response to being interested in Urbina..sure he did good for us when we needed him in '03..cept game 1 of the NLCS when he gave up the 2-run homer to Sosa.. Anyways, yeah, he would be a nice addition to the 'pen. And when Spooney comes back, we can have a nice SU/CL deal.
November 21, 200421 yr I say no way. We didn't think he was worth that money last season, and we shouldn't be paying anything for him this year either. If the Marlins want a closer, then pony up the money Armando will get. Mando >>> Urbina.
November 21, 200421 yr Well my response to being interested in Urbina..sure he did good for us when we needed him in '03..cept game 1 of the NLCS when he gave up the 2-run homer to Sosa.. Anyways, yeah, he would be a nice addition to the 'pen. And when Spooney comes back, we can have a nice SU/CL deal. 619034[/snapback] there was that thing in game 4 of that world series thing to giving up triples to RUBEN SIERRA????????????????? yea
November 21, 200421 yr Well my response to being interested in Urbina..sure he did good for us when we needed him in '03..cept game 1 of the NLCS when he gave up the 2-run homer to Sosa.. Anyways, yeah, he would be a nice addition to the 'pen. And when Spooney comes back, we can have a nice SU/CL deal. 619034[/snapback] there was that thing in game 4 of that world series thing to giving up triples to RUBEN SIERRA????????????????? yea 619188[/snapback] forgot game 4 of the NLDS too. Pudge and Niner bailed out his ass.
November 21, 200421 yr anyways, i'd much rather keep 'mando when a closer's in the game, you wanna have the feeling that you can go home cuz the game is over i didn't have that with uggy, i did with 'mando
November 21, 200421 yr Uggy=World series ring in 2003 with the marlins. Mando=Did awesome but no ring kiddo. And uggy's a *STUD*
November 21, 200421 yr Uggy=World series ring in 2003 with the marlins. Mando=Did awesome but no ring kiddo. And uggy's a *STUD* 619268[/snapback] you're right.... Mando is the reason we didnt win last year :plain
November 21, 200421 yr Uggy=World series ring in 2003 with the marlins. Mando=Did awesome but no ring kiddo. And uggy's a *STUD* 619268[/snapback] you're right.... Mando is the reason we didnt win last year :plain 619270[/snapback] I'm just saying.Mando bailed our ass most of the games he saved,but w/e uggy has the ring
November 21, 200421 yr We've had several players in the past that have come back to the team after an absence, like Charles Johnson, Dave Weathers, and Jeff Conine.
November 21, 200421 yr id rather have benitez than urbina....i wish we can get both but doubt that is gonna happen.
November 21, 200421 yr Uggy=World series ring in 2003 with the marlins. Mando=Did awesome but no ring kiddo. And uggy's a *STUD* 619268[/snapback] you're right.... Mando is the reason we didnt win last year :plain 619270[/snapback] I'm just saying.Mando bailed our ass most of the games he saved,but w/e uggy has the ring 619273[/snapback] yea well Craig Counsell has a ring and Ted Williams doesnt..... :plain
November 21, 200421 yr Well my response to being interested in Urbina..sure he did good for us when we needed him in '03..cept game 1 of the NLCS when he gave up the 2-run homer to Sosa.. Anyways, yeah, he would be a nice addition to the 'pen. And when Spooney comes back, we can have a nice SU/CL deal. 619034[/snapback] there was that thing in game 4 of that world series thing to giving up triples to RUBEN SIERRA????????????????? yea 619188[/snapback] forgot game 4 of the NLDS too. Pudge and Niner bailed out his ass. 619190[/snapback] And Mariano Rivera blew some saves in the post season this year. More than anything I think that was him wearing down. Urbina is a solid veteran pitcher who knows what he is doing as opposed to some of the youngster in there now. I say get him if we can. I hope the situation with his mom was resolved though. Thats gotta be horrible to be going through.
November 21, 200421 yr Marlins have never been able to keep closers. :banghead Mota will be the closer this year, do a great job, and then be on his way out the door. :banghead :banghead
November 22, 200421 yr if we can get him for 500 k or less which i doubt i dont want to see him as a marlin
November 22, 200421 yr Speaking of Urbina, what's the latest with his mother and that whole situation?
November 22, 200421 yr Uggy=World series ring in 2003 with the marlins. Mando=Did awesome but no ring kiddo. And uggy's a *STUD* 619268[/snapback] you're right.... Mando is the reason we didnt win last year :plain 619270[/snapback] I'm just saying.Mando bailed our ass most of the games he saved,but w/e uggy has the ring 619273[/snapback] The difference being the Marlins were in the hunt for the ring because of Armando this season, and one could argue that they won the ring in 03 despite Uggy.
November 22, 200421 yr Speaking of Urbina, what's the latest with his mother and that whole situation? 619467[/snapback] Still held captive. Best for the Marlins to wait this one out until the Tigers are forced to make a move.
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