December 10, 200421 yr I just found this on Baseball America.com. It's a list of draft picks already picked up by teams who have lost free agents, and a list of players who if signed would cost that team draft picks. First Round 17. Yankees (from Phillies for Type B Jon Lieber) 22. Marlins (from Giants for Type A Armando Benitez) 29. Braves (from Yankees for Type A Jaret Wright) Supplemental First Round 31. Rockies (for Type A Vinny Castilla) 32. Indians (for Type A Omar Vizquel) 33. Marlins (for Benitez) 34. Athletics (for Type A Damian Miller) 35. Angels (for Type A Troy Percival) 36. Braves (for Wright) 37. Mets (for failure to sign Philip Humber*) 38. Devil Rays (for failure to sign Jeff Niemann*) 39. Orioles (for failure to sign Wade Townsend) 40. Angels (for failure to sign Jered Weaver*) 41. Diamondbacks (for failure to sign Stephen Drew*) (*First-round pick still eligible to sign with club.) Second Round 45. Rockies (from Nationals for Castilla) 46. Athletics (from Brewers for Miller) 51. Angels (from Tigers for Percival) 63. Indians (from Giants for Vizquel) Supplemental Second Round 72. Marlins (for Type C Mike Redmond, signed with Twins) 73. Twins (for Type C Henry Blanco, signed with Cubs) Third Round 77. Twins (from Nationals for Type B Cristian Guzman) By my count, there are 22 remaining free agents who will require compensation if they switch teams: Type A Wilson Alvarez (LA), Carlos Beltran (Hou), Adrian Beltre (LA), Orlando Cabrera (Bos), Roger Clemens (Hou), Corey Koskie (Min), Derek Lowe (Bos), Pedro Martinez (Bos), Mike Matheny (StL), Carl Pavano (Fla), Odalis Perez (LA), Placido Polanco (Phi), Edgar Renteria (StL), Richie Sexson (Ari), Jason Varitek (Bos), David Wells (SD). Type B Matt Clement (ChC), Orlando Hernandez (NYY), Brent Mayne (LA), Ron Villone (Sea), Gregg Zaun (Tor). Type C Todd Greene (Col). Looks like we will end up with 8 draft picks (assuming Pavano leaves) in the first 3 rounds and at least 4 maybe 5 picks in the first round and supplemental first round.
December 10, 200421 yr The upcoming draft will be "HUGE" scouts are getting ready :thumbup , go get them guys
December 11, 200421 yr that will really improve our farm system... sorry... i like stating the obvious. Ill go away now
December 11, 200421 yr that will really improve our farm system... sorry... i like stating the obvious. Ill go away now 632032[/snapback] Especially if we draft a couple more Allison's.
December 11, 200421 yr The problem is signing/paying those eight picks could be prohibitive. 631987[/snapback] The Marlins paid a total of a $2M to their top three draft picks last year. Let's assume a figure of $7M. Paid over the course of six years. That's nothing compared to the future value on the field and in trades.
December 11, 200421 yr that will really improve our farm system... sorry... i like stating the obvious. Ill go away now 632032[/snapback] Especially if we draft a couple more Allison's. 632050[/snapback] lets not write him off so soon
December 11, 200421 yr that will really improve our farm system... sorry... i like stating the obvious. Ill go away now 632032[/snapback] Especially if we draft a couple more Allison's. 632050[/snapback] lets not write him off so soon 632057[/snapback] Okay, I'll wait for the 3rd or 4th OD.
December 11, 200421 yr How do they determine what type a free agent is? Ex: Mike Redmong Type C. How do they do that?
December 11, 200421 yr How do they determine what type a free agent is? Ex: Mike Redmong Type C. How do they do that? 632116[/snapback] Talent, stats, previous salary.
December 11, 200421 yr Just stats over the last two seasons. Elias compares the players to their peers.
December 11, 200421 yr Elias, a stat bureau was hired years ago by MLB (in agreement with the Players Assocation) to rank players, and that ranking determiines compensation in the draft.
December 11, 200421 yr The problem is signing/paying those eight picks could be prohibitive. 631987[/snapback] The Marlins paid a total of a $2M to their top three draft picks last year. Let's assume a figure of $7M. Paid over the course of six years. That's nothing compared to the future value on the field and in trades. 632052[/snapback] It would seem an excellent investment. Let's hope the team can afford it.
December 12, 200421 yr I'm not clear on this compensation issue, so I have a couple of questions: What kind of compensation do we receive for Pavano, now that he's signed with the Yankees? Is it two picks, like with Benitez? Also, if we sign Odalis Perez, what would we have to give the Dodgers?
December 12, 200421 yr Author I'm not clear on this compensation issue, so I have a couple of questions: What kind of compensation do we receive for Pavano, now that he's signed with the Yankees? Is it two picks, like with Benitez? Also, if we sign Odalis Perez, what would we have to give the Dodgers? 632794[/snapback] We will get the 17th pick the Yankees got from Philly, and a first round compensation pick. If we signed Perez we'd have to give up one of our first round picks. Most likely our original pick.(#16 or #15 I'm not sure)
February 3, 200521 yr Author *UPDATE* Finalized draft compensation chart, unless the Orioles, Angels, or D-Backs sign their picks from last year.. First Round 17. Yankees (from Phillies for Type B Jon Lieber) 22. Marlins (from Giants for Type A Armando Benitez) 23. Red Sox (from Angels for Type A Orlando Cabrera) 26. Red Sox (from Dodgers for Type A Derek Lowe) 28. Cardinals (from Red Sox for Type A Edgar Renteria) 29. Marlins (from Yankees for Type A Carl Pavano) Supplemental First Round 31. Diamondbacks (for Type A Richie Sexson) 32. Rockies (for Type A Vinny Castilla) 33. Indians (for Type A Omar Vizquel) 34. Marlins (for Benitez) 35. Padres (for Type A David Wells) 36. Athletics (for Type A Damian Miller) 37. Angels (for Type A Troy Percival) 38. Astros (for Type A Carlos Beltran) 39. Twins (for Type A Corey Koskie) 40. Dodgers (for Type A Adrian Beltre) 41. Braves (for Type A Jaret Wright) 42. Red Sox (for Type A Pedro Martinez) 43. Cardinals (for Renteria) 44. Marlins (for Pavano) 45. Red Sox (for Cabrera) 46. Cardinals (for Type A Mike Matheny) 47. Red Sox (for Lowe) 48. Devil Rays (for failure to sign Jeff Niemann*) 49. Orioles (for failure to sign Wade Townsend) 50. Angels (for failure to sign Jered Weaver*) 51. Diamondbacks (for failure to sign Stephen Drew*) (*First-round pick still eligible to sign with club.) Second Round 54. Dodgers (from Mariners for Beltre) 55. Rockies (from Nationals for Castilla) 56. Athletics (from Brewers for Miller) 57. Twins (from Blue Jays for Koskie) 60. Red Sox (from Mets for Martinez) 61. Angels (from Tigers for Percival) 66. Yankees (from White Sox for Type B Orlando Hernandez) 73. Cardinals (from Giants for Matheny) 79. Padres (from Red Sox for Wells) 80. Braves (from Yankees for Wright) Supplemental Second Round 82. Marlins (for Type C Mike Redmond, signed with Twins) 83. Twins (for Type C Henry Blanco, signed with Cubs) Third Round 86. Diamondbacks (from Mariners for Sexson) 87. Twins (from Nationals for Type B Cristian Guzman) 92. Astros (from Mets for Beltran) 105. Indians (from Giants for Vizquel) 111. Cubs (from Red Sox for Type B Matt Clement) Next year's draft is going to be very interesting for us. 8 picks in the first 100 selections.
February 3, 200521 yr Wow. We're really going to be restocking our minor league system with a lot of talent. This will allow us to trade for players in 2006 and beyond and to have good players in our system to bring up.
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