July 11, 200322 yr Palm Beach Post article Redman Emerges As Leader On, Off Field By Tom D'Angelo, Palm Beach Post Staff Writer Friday, July 11, 2003 MONTREAL -- Mark Redman's value to the Florida Marlins goes beyond his 7-3 record and 2.80 ERA. The left-hander is manager Jack McKeon's right-hand man when it comes to working with the younger pitchers. McKeon and pitching coach Wayne Rosenthal have become dependent on Redman's knowledge and experience. "I've learned a lot from him because he's a smart pitcher, makes adjustments during the game, changes his game plan during a game,'' Rosenthal said. McKeon praises Redman, 29, for his professionalism and dedication. He is most impressed with Redman on the days he does not pitch. That's when he studies the game, watches his teammates, offers advice and generally sets an example. "I try to get some of those young guys around him to follow suit,'' McKeon said. The Marlins received more than a pitcher when General Manager Admin Beinfest outwitted the man he replaced, Tigers GM Dave Dombrowski. Beinfest has not received the credit due for acquiring Redman and minor-league pitcher Jerrod Fuell from Detroit for pitchers Gary Knotts, Nate Robertson and Rob Henkel, all of whom are in the minors. Beinfest figured with a little run support Redman, who at 6-feet-5, 245 pounds looks like a hard thrower but relies more on off-speed stuff, would be the fourth starter. Redman, 8-15 last season, had the worst run support for any American League pitcher, 3.68 per nine innings. This season, he has become the leader and co-ace, along with Dontrelle Willis. His emergence has been a bonus on a staff decimated by injuries early in the season, including Redman's broken thumb that forced him to miss a month. "I like studying how you can become better with just average stuff,'' Redman said. "If you can get as much information on how to pitch, how to read hitters and anything that helps you get an advantage on a team or a hitter, you do it.'' Redman learned not just by watching pitchers, but by tapping into the knowledge of some of the game's greatest hitters, former teammates Kirby Puckett and Paul Molitor. "When (a hitter) tells me when it's real hard to pick up the ball, that's great information,'' he said. And Redman didn't seek out the 98 mph flame throwers for advice. He approached pitchers like himself. "I've done it by watching Brad Radke pitch, or Bob Tewksbury -- guys with average stuff, not overpowering -- to learn how to pitch, how to keep the ball down, how to get ahead of the hitters,'' he said. Redman's style defies his size. He looks like Roger Clemens but throws like Tom Glavine. The changeup is his best pitch, mainly because of deception. The pitch looks like a fastball because of Redman's arm speed. His fastball generally is in the mid-80s, but he's learned how to spot the pitch and might hit 90 mph about one out of every 10 pitches. "He won't light up the gun, he doesn't have one of those nasty breaking balls,'' Rosenthal said. "But he's got a plus, plus, plus changeup.'' Now, Redman is the one offering the advice. Willis credits Redman for teaching him how to watch the game from the bench. Josh Beckett went to Redman for tips on his changeup. "I watch how he throws his changeup,'' Beckett said. "It's nasty. He's the only guy I've ever seen who can probably throw his changeup five times in a row and it won't get hit. "He's really helped me. My changeup has been a big pitch for me this year.'' And Redman knows exactly what Carl Pavano is experiencing. The Marlins have averaged one run in the past five games at the time Pavano was removed. Redman had a talk with Pavano. "That's the guy you talk to and say, 'I've been there, what you need to do is still focus on giving the team a chance to win,' " Redman said. "With my experience (last season), you can teach and pass those things along to your teammates.'' tom_dangelo@pbpost.com Cough cough outpitching Bartolo Colon cough cough... Red 7-3, 2.80 ERA, 2.1 million Bart 6-8, 4.14 ERA, 8.2 million good work Beinfest :thumbup (although I'll never buy the excuse that you had to dump Millar to afford him)
July 11, 200322 yr Something to be watched is his high pitch count every game. Even though he is a workhorse, he tired at the end of last season. That is why we need to upgrade our bullpen so we don't overwork our best pitchers.
July 11, 200322 yr Cough cough outpitching Bartolo Colon cough cough... Red 7-3, 2.80 ERA, 2.1 million Bart 6-8, 4.14 ERA, 8.2 million Don't ya love it? :w00t
July 11, 200322 yr Author i agree eadearmas. no reason to keep him in through the 8th & 9th if we have a solid pen. i know Red isn't pounding 95 mph fastballs in there all night so maybe the wear on his arm is less, but they say the arm moves just as fast on a changeup, so i hope we don't see too many of these 140 pitch nights....
July 11, 200322 yr so i hope we don't see too many of these 140 pitch nights.... I don't think we've EVER seen a 140 pitch count...
July 11, 200322 yr Author I don't think we've EVER seen a 140 pitch count... His last win against Randy Wolf and the Phillies..... 140 pitches.
July 11, 200322 yr His last win against Randy Wolf and the Phillies..... 140 pitches. I believe it was 138 :shifty
July 11, 200322 yr His last win against Randy Wolf and the Phillies..... 140 pitches. I believe it was 138 :shifty it was 140.... he hit 138 vs TB Redman's pitch counts
July 11, 200322 yr Those werent my words. I have liked Redman since his Minnesota days. He had an impressive rookie year as a Twin, but fell off after. He's coming back now...
July 11, 200322 yr Those werent my words. I have liked Redman since his Minnesota days. you got to forgive eddie k. man. he has something against soft tossers, he likes guys who can pump it up down the middle and shove it up the hitters throat. other than that, he's not really a fish basher.
July 11, 200322 yr Author I thought Mark Redman sucked? Oh no not this again.... let it go Das! :lol What do want, a personal apology? Maybe if you called him up he'll remember you & kiss your butt. Not likely though! btw....that avatar is awesome...i wonder if they were ever in an actual episode together?
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