Supporting corporal punishment is one thing; advocating it is another, as Mr. McConnell recently learned. Studying for a graduate teaching degree at Le Moyne College, he wrote in a paper last fall that "corporal punishment has a place in the classroom." His teacher gave the paper an A-minus and wrote, "Interesting ideas - I've shared these with Dr. Leogrande," referring to Cathy Leogrande, who oversaw the college's graduate program.

 

Unknown to Mr. McConnell, his view of discipline became a subject of discussion among Le Moyne officials. Five days before the spring semester began in January, Mr. McConnell learned that he had been dismissed from Le Moyne, a Jesuit college.

 

"I have grave concerns regarding the mismatch between your personal beliefs regarding teaching and learning and the Le Moyne College program goals," Dr. Leogrande wrote in a letter, according to a copy provided by Mr. McConnell. "Your registration for spring 2005 courses has been withdrawn."

 

Dr. Leogrande offered to meet with Mr. McConnell, and concluded, "Best wishes in your future endeavors."

 

If the letter stunned Mr. McConnell, the "best wishes" part turned him into a campaigner. A mild-mannered former private in the Army, Mr. McConnell has taken up a free-speech banner with a tireless intensity, casting himself as a transplant from a conservative state abused by political correctness in more liberal New York. He also said that because he is an evangelical Christian, his views about sparing the rod and spoiling the child flowed partly from the Bible, and that Le Moyne was "spitting on that."

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/03/10/nyregion/10paddle.html?

 

McConnell is a religio-nut, but the college administration are a bunch of facist thought police too. :thumbdown

I guess I'll tell all my friends at LeMoyne not to write a paper about corporal punishment.

Since when did a Jesuit college become a stronghold of liberal views? Arent the jesuits pretty strict Catholics?

Real liberals would have accepted this.

Real liberals would have accepted this.

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Man Tonyi, you show yourself to be more of a fool every day.

Since when did a Jesuit college become a stronghold of liberal views? Arent the jesuits pretty strict Catholics?

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The bolded words are incompatible. Jesuits tend to be stricter, but colleges are run by liberals for the most part.

Since when did a Jesuit college become a stronghold of liberal views? Arent the jesuits pretty strict Catholics?

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The bolded words are incompatible. Jesuits tend to be stricter, but colleges are run by liberals for the most part.

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You too Cape. :blink:

Since when did a Jesuit college become a stronghold of liberal views? Arent the jesuits pretty strict Catholics?

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The bolded words are incompatible. Jesuits tend to be stricter, but colleges are run by liberals for the most part.

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The fallacy there is to assume that if something is a college, it must be run by liberals. Would that also make Oral Roberts a liberal school? Would that also make Bob Jones a liberal school? Institutions cant be judged my the word college being present and the subsequent use of stereotypes. They have to be judged by their philosophy if they have one. And you admit the Jesuits are stricter Catholics which obviously plays a role.

 

 

And wait a second cape, you arent even in college yet are you? How can you label colleges as a whole as being run by liberals?

Real liberals would have accepted this.

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Man Tonyi, you show yourself to be more of a fool every day.

The gestapo applauds your tolerance and diversity of opinion :plain

Real liberals would have accepted this.

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Man Tonyi, you show yourself to be more of a fool every day.

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Tonyi's right. Liberals should be quite accomodating to many different POVs.

Since when did a Jesuit college become a stronghold of liberal views? Arent the jesuits pretty strict Catholics?

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The bolded words are incompatible. Jesuits tend to be stricter, but colleges are run by liberals for the most part.

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You're mistaken if you think there are no Jesuit colleges.

 

And Jesuits aren't always the most conservative of people, but they are very traditionalist.

The Jesuits are economically very left-leaning and are not really hardcore traditionalists. Yes they follow the catholic church doctrine, but for example in south america the jesuits often participated in leftist revolutions and the priests and brothers took up arms. Castro went to a jesuit school here in miami.

The Jesuits are economically very left-leaning and are not really hardcore traditionalists. Yes they follow the catholic church doctrine, but for example in south america the jesuits often participated in leftist revolutions and the priests and brothers took up arms. Castro went to a jesuit school here in miami.

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Agreed that they are probably more economically left leaning but probably not socially. I dont think they would get too upset with the use of corporal punishment as earlier suggested because of some makeshift liberal view imposed on them.

The Jesuits are economically very left-leaning and are not really hardcore traditionalists. Yes they follow the catholic church doctrine, but for example in south america the jesuits often participated in leftist revolutions and the priests and brothers took up arms. Castro went to a jesuit school here in miami.

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Agreed that they are probably more economically left leaning but probably not socially. I dont think they would get too upset with the use of corporal punishment as earlier suggested because of some makeshift liberal view imposed on them.

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no argument there

The Jesuits were the driving force behind the Pope's anti-Reformation push...or so I'm learning in my Reformation class. Interesting stuff. Especially the developments of Reformation Poland-Lithuania and Bohemia.

The Jesuits are economically very left-leaning and are not really hardcore traditionalists. Yes they follow the catholic church doctrine, but for example in south america the jesuits often participated in leftist revolutions and the priests and brothers took up arms. Castro went to a jesuit school here in miami.

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No he didnt go to a Jesuit shool in Miami. He went to a jesuit school in Cuba. That school, Belen,moved to Miami after the Castro revolution in Cuba.

there are a few orders that tend to be a bit more liberal and forward thinking than the Catholic Church in general.

 

 

the Jesuits are one of those orders.

 

 

but they are by no means a liberal order, not by a longshot.

 

 

being left on a few issues left.

 

some of you continue to amaze me.

being left on a few issues left.

 

Is the opposite also true?

 

being right on a few issues right?

being left on a few issues left.

 

Is the opposite also true?

 

being right on a few issues right?

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Of course not. All liberals are hypocrites.

 

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From what I see here sometimes, you may be correct.

From what I see here sometimes, you may be correct.

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You've already got a feel of the boards in just 8 days.

 

Oh wait, I forgot that you're tonyi.

being left on a few issues left.

 

Is the opposite also true?

 

being right on a few issues right?

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naturally genius.

 

 

if you move toward the left side on a small handful of issues or right on a small handful of issues, this doesnt make you a member of that group.

 

 

what makes you left or right is your attitude and views and opinions on the majority of issues.

 

 

you know better tony

being left on a few issues left.

 

Is the opposite also true?

 

being right on a few issues right?

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naturally genius.

This is not as obvious as it seems.

 

What exactly is Fuzzy's position on the "majority of the issues"?

 

Let me start you out with a few. Fuzzy is:

 

- Pro-abortion

- Pro-environment

- Believes drugs should be legalized

- Believes the US should slowly withdraw from being the "world cop"

- Believes the US should work actively on alternative energy sources (MHD in particular since its well suited for small "local" type power plants)

- Believes the "missile defense shield" is a waste of money

- Believes the US nuke stockpiles should be dramatically reduced, eliminating all strategic fusion weapons entirely.

 

So where is Fuzzy on the political scale genius? Doesn't sound very right wing to me.

being left on a few issues left.

 

Is the opposite also true?

 

being right on a few issues right?

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naturally genius.

This is not as obvious as it seems.

 

What exactly is Fuzzy's position on the "majority of the issues"?

 

Let me start you out with a few. Fuzzy is:

 

- Pro-abortion

- Pro-environment

- Believes drugs should be legalized

- Believes the US should slowly withdraw from being the "world cop"

- Believes the US should work actively on alternative energy sources (MHD in particular since its well suited for small "local" type power plants)

- Believes the "missile defense shield" is a waste of money

- Believes the US nuke stockpiles should be dramatically reduced, eliminating all strategic fusion weapons entirely.

 

So where is Fuzzy on the political scale genius? Doesn't sound very right wing to me.

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What is fuzzy's opinion of....moonbats?

What is fuzzy's opinion of....moonbats?

 

In what regard?

 

The word would seem to be just another synonym for extremist.