HanleyDavidson Posted April 16, 2005 Share Posted April 16, 2005 these umpires suck cabrera was safe this rapper castro never tagged miguel he was safe what is this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teal Shadow Posted April 16, 2005 Share Posted April 16, 2005 I agree, but this goes deeper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Accord Posted April 16, 2005 Share Posted April 16, 2005 What a disgusting game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Juanky Posted April 16, 2005 Share Posted April 16, 2005 Great, just great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ24 Posted April 16, 2005 Share Posted April 16, 2005 Fugin not only the cabrera play was horrible, the stike zone for our team was absouletly horrendous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhxPhin Posted April 16, 2005 Share Posted April 16, 2005 ugly way to lose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapeFish Posted April 16, 2005 Share Posted April 16, 2005 *dips head into freezer*Â Don't get me started on the umpires. I haven't been able to stand them since 1993. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHUfishfan Posted April 16, 2005 Share Posted April 16, 2005 what a crappy way to lose a ballgame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhishPhan Posted April 16, 2005 Share Posted April 16, 2005 Its always someone elses fault.... The umps Bill Robinson Jack Errors Never the players. There is a theme here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heckeroo Posted April 16, 2005 Share Posted April 16, 2005 Great, just great. 744592[/snapback] o you have to update your sig to -1 :plain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flamarlins3 Posted April 16, 2005 Share Posted April 16, 2005 *sigh* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Juanky Posted April 16, 2005 Share Posted April 16, 2005 Its always someone elses fault.... The umps Bill Robinson Jack Errors Never the players. There is a theme here. 744618[/snapback] What did the players really do wrong today outside of Todd Jones and to a smaller extent Guillermo Mota? Pedro is just a great pitcher, he shut us down. Leiter pitched brilliantly. The offense showed up when they needed to. Mecir showed up to get the outs he needed. Why don't you stop instigating, or is that your f***ed up fetish. And oh, btw, errors ARE THE f***ING PLAYERS FAULT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Juanky Posted April 16, 2005 Share Posted April 16, 2005 Great, just great. 744592[/snapback] o you have to update your sig to -1 :plain 744622[/snapback] House of Pain time is only when it's a save chance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stag5 Posted April 16, 2005 Share Posted April 16, 2005 Shadow, tell the gang what will happen before too long..... McKeon is loved in the organization but his daily excuses are not going to fly too long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhishPhan Posted April 16, 2005 Share Posted April 16, 2005 Its always someone elses fault.... The umps Bill Robinson Jack Errors Never the players. There is a theme here. 744618[/snapback] What did the players really do wrong today outside of Todd Jones and to a smaller extent Guillermo Mota? Pedro is just a great pitcher, he shut us down. Leiter pitched brilliantly. The offense showed up when they needed to. Mecir showed up to get the outs he needed. Why don't you stop instigating, or is that your f***ed up fetish. Mota blew the game. It was tied. Ump call aside the game was going on. Should we just throw in the towel everytime an ump makes a bad call? Later in the year we'll get a couple calls and it will even out,it always does. But we did get the game tied and into the 9th. And Mota showed his inability to handle th 9th inning, again. Jones won't see a lead in the 8th for a while, most likely. Its not new that the people on here hang it on something than the players. And oh, btw, errors ARE THE f***ING PLAYERS FAULT. 744629[/snapback] Yesterday some people sympathized for Josh, even though he mis-played a couple of the balls himself, and then went on to bash Bill Robinson again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teal Shadow Posted April 16, 2005 Share Posted April 16, 2005 Shadow, tell the gang what will happen before too long..... McKeon is loved in the organization but his daily excuses are not going to fly too long. 744632[/snapback] agree the organization would never let Jack go in midseason, but others like Mr. Robinson is a different story Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legacyofCangelosi Posted April 16, 2005 Share Posted April 16, 2005 The only way Mckeon gets fired this year is if we are terribly under .500 by the break or so. Robinson will most likely go soon. Wiley is still a badass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Juanky Posted April 16, 2005 Share Posted April 16, 2005 Mota blew the game. It was tied. Ump call aside the game was going on. Should we just throw in the towel everytime an ump makes a bad call? Later in the year we'll get a couple calls and it will even out,it always does. But we did get the game tied and into the 9th. And Mota showed his inability to handle th 9th inning, again. Jones won't see a lead in the 8th for a while, most likely. Its not new that the people on here hang it on something than the players. Yesterday some people sympathized for Josh, even though he mis-played a couple of the balls himself, and then went on to bash Bill Robinson again. No, what's not new here is that you just come on here and try to pick a fight like the f***ing little prick you are. Maybe, just maybe, you should actually feel something if you give a f*** about what the team does. However, since you aren't a real fan you just pose as one so you can start a f***ing problem with whoever is more pissed at the moment, you don't care when they lose and you don't get happy when they win. You're single point here is too be a less intelligent version of SorianoFan. f***, at least he wasn't a wolf in sheep's clothing. Stay away from the f***ing Marlins board, we'd like it if people who actually cared about the team or fans of other teams that didn't start a damn fight were the only ones that posted here. However, back to your lack of a point, it would be nice if the manager, instead of focusing on what cigar he's going to smoke at the end of the game, went out and argued a call where the umpire obviously got it wrong. They showed his face right after the play and he didn't give a f*** at all. Is that what you want out of the man that is supposed to be the leader of the club? Well, not you, since you don't care, but that's surely not what I want. I want the leader of the club to act like a general and not like a fan who won some kind of contest and they are letting him pretend to be manager for the f***ing day. Was today the bat's fault? No, it wasn't. They played a dominant ace who has been blowing it by hitters and today was no different. They scratched out runs, Luiy played a magnificent game, and Pedro left losing the game. Todd Jones obviously didn't have jack today, or did you watch the game at all? Why leave him in to face far and away the best hitter on the other team? When instead you can bring a righty would force Beltran to go lefty, and that righty just so happens to handle lefties better than almost every lefty specialist in the league and would send Beltran to hit lefty which he hadn't done all game. It's ok though, we can still leave Jones, who just dropped the game, to just completely blow it once Piazza comes up. Jack isn't going anywhere, but someone needs to electro shock him or something cuz his s*** is getting old and the team can't win games where the wrong people are in the wrong situations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhishPhan Posted April 16, 2005 Share Posted April 16, 2005 ^^^^^^^ You left out the part where Mota blew the game.  Like I said, you all "forget" how the players lose the games sometimes. Thanks for proving the point. Jones didn't lose the game, the ump didn't Jack didn't. Mota was on the mound, and let Ray-Ray connect and get the runner in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Juanky Posted April 16, 2005 Share Posted April 16, 2005 So if Todd Jones doesn't give up those hits we still lose? I'm not going to argue with you because I don't have 7 hours of free time. Besides, your best bet is to rather stay away from me because quite frankly I could whipe the floor with you in a debate and I'm rather angry at the moment so it isn't a good combination for anyone furthering my anger. Just go away. I'm not checking this thread anymore and I'm not wasting my time on you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legacyofCangelosi Posted April 16, 2005 Share Posted April 16, 2005 ^^^^^^^ You left out the part where Mota blew the game.  Like I said, you all "forget" how the players lose the games sometimes. Thanks for proving the point. Jones didn't lose the game, the ump didn't Jack didn't. Mota was on the mound, and let Ray-Ray connect and get the runner in. 744696[/snapback] Jones is as resposible if not more responsible than mota. The pitcher that gives up the 1 winning run isnt the one that 'loses' the game (im not tlakin statistically). If a pitcher gives up a run and his team loses 11-10, you also ned to distribute blame to the other pitchers that allowed the 10 runs. Jones, Mota lost the game, with the Reliford's help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramp Posted April 16, 2005 Share Posted April 16, 2005 bad calls happen all the time... its frustrating I thought Cabs was out in "real time", the replay he was obviously safe but I have to side with the ump there Jack mismanaged the pen tonight, very frustrating Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Moneyball Posted April 16, 2005 Share Posted April 16, 2005 So if Todd Jones doesn't give up those hits we still lose? I'm not going to argue with you because I don't have 7 hours of free time. Besides, your best bet is to rather stay away from me because quite frankly I could whipe the floor with you in a debate and I'm rather angry at the moment so it isn't a good combination for anyone furthering my anger. Just go away. I'm not checking this thread anymore and I'm not wasting my time on you. 744700[/snapback]  I shoulda done that yesterday. Juanky that post before this one pwned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhishPhan Posted April 16, 2005 Share Posted April 16, 2005 ^^^^^^^ You left out the part where Mota blew the game.  Like I said, you all "forget" how the players lose the games sometimes. Thanks for proving the point. Jones didn't lose the game, the ump didn't Jack didn't. Mota was on the mound, and let Ray-Ray connect and get the runner in. 744696[/snapback] Jones is as resposible if not more responsible than mota. The pitcher that gives up the 1 winning run isnt the one that 'loses' the game (im not tlakin statistically). If a pitcher gives up a run and his team loses 11-10, you also ned to distribute blame to the other pitchers that allowed the 10 runs. Jones, Mota lost the game, with the Reliford's help. 744702[/snapback] I am not saying there is no blame on Jones, but he gave a game recap there and mentioned the ump, Jones, Jack and left out Mota. If you want to place blame, put it all over. Looking at these boards I see "Fire Bill Robinson" all over. Not "Give Lowell a rest" or "Lowell sucks" threads. I doubt his hitting below .200 is helping matters.  I feel they should distribute the blame, and on here that doesn't happen, or it is not distributed to everyone. The Brass, all the way down is to blame if the team doesn't succeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Moneyball Posted April 16, 2005 Share Posted April 16, 2005 ^^^^^^^ You left out the part where Mota blew the game.  Like I said, you all "forget" how the players lose the games sometimes. Thanks for proving the point. Jones didn't lose the game, the ump didn't Jack didn't. Mota was on the mound, and let Ray-Ray connect and get the runner in. 744696[/snapback] Jones is as resposible if not more responsible than mota. The pitcher that gives up the 1 winning run isnt the one that 'loses' the game (im not tlakin statistically). If a pitcher gives up a run and his team loses 11-10, you also ned to distribute blame to the other pitchers that allowed the 10 runs. Jones, Mota lost the game, with the Reliford's help. 744702[/snapback] I am not saying there is no blame on Jones, but he gave a game recap there and mentioned the ump, Jones, Jack and left out Mota. If you want to place blame, put it all over. Looking at these boards I see "Fire Bill Robinson" all over. Not "Give Lowell a rest" or "Lowell sucks" threads. I doubt his hitting below .200 is helping matters.  I feel they should distribute the blame, and on here that doesn't happen, or it is not distributed to everyone. The Brass, all the way down is to blame if the team doesn't succeed. 744718[/snapback]  Give Lowell a rest? He has no reason to be tired. We are 11 games in. I Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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