The CIA's chief weapons inspector said he cannot rule out the possibility that Iraqi weapons of mass destruction were secretly shipped to Syria before the March 2003 invasion, citing "sufficiently credible" evidence that WMDs may have been moved there.

 

Inspector Charles Duelfer, who heads the Iraq Survey Group (ISG), made the findings in an addendum to his final report filed last year. He said the search for WMD in Iraq -- the main reason President Bush went to war to oust Saddam Hussein -- has been exhausted without finding such weapons. Iraq had stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons in the early 1990s.

 

But on the question of Syria, Mr. Duelfer did not close the books. "ISG was unable to complete its investigation and is unable to rule out the possibility that WMD was evacuated to Syria before the war," Mr. Duelfer said in a report posted on the CIA's Web site Monday night.

 

He cited some evidence of a transfer. "Whether Syria received military items from Iraq for safekeeping or other reasons has yet to be determined," he said. "There was evidence of a discussion of possible WMD collaboration initiated by a Syrian security officer, and ISG received information about movement of material out of Iraq, including the possibility that WMD was involved. In the judgment of the working group, these reports were sufficiently credible to merit further investigation."

 

But Mr. Duelfer said he was unable to complete that aspect of the probe because "the declining security situation limited and finally halted this investigation. The results remain inconclusive, but further investigation may be undertaken when circumstances on the ground improve."

 

Arguing against a WMD transfer to Syria, Mr. Duelfer said, was the fact that all senior Iraqi detainees involved in Saddam's weapons programs and security "uniformly denied any knowledge of residual WMD that could have been secreted to Syria."

 

"Nevertheless," the inspector said, "given the insular and compartmented nature of the regime, ISG analysts believed there was enough evidence to merit further investigation."

 

He said that even if all leads are pursued someday, the ISG may never be able to finally determine whether WMDs were taken across the border. "Based on the evidence available at present, ISG judged that it was unlikely that an official transfer of WMD material from Iraq to Syria took place," his report stated. "However, ISG was unable to rule out unofficial movement of limited WMD-related materials."

 

Speculation on WMDs in Syria was fueled by the fact that satellite images picked up long lines of trucks waiting to cross the border into Syria before the coalition launched the invasion. Mr. Duelfer previously had reported that Syria was a major conduit for materials entering Iraq that were banned by the United Nations.

 

Saddam placed such importance on illicit trade with Syria that he dispatched Iraqi Intelligence Service agents to various border crossings to supervise border agents, and, in some cases, to shoo them away, senior officials told The Washington Times last year.

 

Today, U.S. officials charge that Syria continues to harbor Saddam loyalists who are directing and financing the insurgency in Iraq. The Iraq-Syria relationship between two Ba'athist socialist regimes has further encouraged speculation of weapons transfers.

 

Several senior U.S. officials have said since the invasion that they thought WMD went to Syria.

 

Retired Marine Lt. Gen. Michael DeLong, the deputy commander of U.S. Central Command during the war, said in his book, "Inside CentCom," that intelligence reports pointed to WMD movement into Syria.

 

In October, John A. Shaw, then the deputy undersecretary of defense for international technology security, told The Times that Russian special forces and intelligence troops worked with Saddam's intelligence service to move weapons and material to Syria, Lebanon and possibly Iran.

 

"The organized effort was done in advance of the conflict," he said.

 

http://www.washingtontimes.com/national/20...21915-1667r.htm

If there is a possibility that they could be in Syria, we should pressure them to let us inspect their facilities or something.

They wont let us, itll have to be an international body (UN) or maybe the EU

Since our intelligence in that part of the world blows donkey balls those WMD are probably sold off, disposed of, or moved somewhere else by now.

 

I just love all this s*** floating around while we throw billions into making new satellites and listening devices on the sea floor when all we need to do to get real intelligence is pay some people off with a couple hundred bucks.

Hey Marlins Nation since you got it all figured out, why dont you go over there and just save all of us? I have a hunch the frickin CIA knows just a small amount than you do. Long Live the CIA!

Hey, I'm just regurgitating criticisms I hear from people in security and intelligence circles.

 

Basically what I'm saying (or regurgitating) is giving 100 dollars to Habib on his camel is worth more than a 100 billion dollar sattelite meant to detect movements of Soviet tank divisions.

 

The CIA has a pretty embarrassing history wrought with failure anyway (s***ty counter intelligence before the Bay of Pigs invasion, 9/11 to name a few.) so I, lowly Marlin Nation, WHO'S TAXES PAYS FOR THIER STUPID SEA FLOOR MICROPHONES, LASER BEAM EMITTING OMEGA WATCHES, AND THIER KIDS' BRACES, feel free and easy to criticize them.

 

Even if thier work ends up catching Bin Laden I'd consider that a WASH for 9/11.

Well since you know so damn much about the CIA,

1. You would know the CIA DID THEIR JOB AT the Bay of Pigs

2. JFK later admitted it was he who held up the air support.

3. Read Decision for Diaster its about the Bay of Pigs

 

 

4. You probably already knew all of that though didnt you, you little CIA historian.

They are the reason you are able to sleep at NIGHT SAFELY. You have no idea about how much they break up, just because its not on the news! So stop saying ignorant s^&^ abuot stuff to which you have no hint of any type of Intellegent idea. "I just talk about what the tv tells me to talk about bla bla bla , I dont like the CIA cause Wolf Blitzer said not to." I cant form a decent, unbiased thought of my own. Everything wrong with the world is the CIA fault.

Well since you know so damn much about the CIA,

1. You would know the CIA DID THEIR JOB AT the Bay of Pigs

2. JFK later admitted it was he who held up the air support.

3. Read Decision for Diaster its about the Bay of Pigs

 

 

4. You probably already knew all of that though didnt you, you little CIA historian.

They are the reason you are able to sleep at NIGHT SAFELY. You have no idea about how much they break up, just because its not on the news! So stop saying ignorant s^&^ abuot stuff to which you have no hint of any type of Intellegent idea. "I just talk about what the tv tells me to talk about bla bla bla , I dont like the CIA cause Wolf Blitzer said not to." I cant form a decent, unbiased thought of my own. Everything wrong with the world is the CIA fault.

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so the CIA not screwing up once is a sign of them being a great organization?

 

 

 

PS they wont catch Bin Laden until after he has already died on his own accord.

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The Walmart security guard doesn't count.

Well since you know so damn much about the CIA,

1. You would know the CIA DID THEIR JOB AT the Bay of Pigs

2. JFK later admitted it was he who held up the air support.

3. Read Decision for Diaster its about the Bay of Pigs

 

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Every burro in Cuba knew the paticulars about the invasion well in advance from SPIES, who the hell ELSE am I going to fault for poor counter intelligence? Exactly who deals with spies if not the goddamned CIA?

 

The whole air support thing is so overstated it's not even funny, the Cuban forces were dug in, AWAITING the invasion flotilla, unless the air strike was delivering a NUCLEAR payload there is no way the results were going to be marginally different. Not to mention a would be popular uprising was supposed to disrupt the Communist forces.

 

Amphibious invasions rely more on suprise and misdirection than naval or air support exactly who do I blame then for the lack thereof? The expatriates? JFK?

 

Give me a break.

 

Or rather instead of telling me what I should know and naming book titles, MAKE A DAMN ARGUMENT.

 

4. You probably already knew all of that though didnt you, you little CIA historian.

They are the reason you are able to sleep at NIGHT SAFELY. You have no idea about how much they break up, just because its not on the news! So stop saying ignorant s^&^ abuot stuff to which you have no hint of any type of Intellegent idea. "I just talk about what the tv tells me to talk about bla bla bla , I dont like the CIA cause Wolf Blitzer said not to." I cant form a decent, unbiased thought of my own. Everything wrong with the world is the CIA fault.

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Make an argument, dude. If you really think I'm this media whore, watching the talking heads on the tube, THEN STRIKE ME DOWN with your superior insight (Maybe, I'll learn something).

 

If you think its beneath you to even break into an argument then shut the f*** up and leave the thread to the morons.

I want you to read the Decision for Diaster by Grayston Lynch, You will feel like such an ASS, cause the book explains the "well dug in cubans" And man you were on roll there Dale Dye JR. with your military treats of knoweledge like "Amphibious invasions rely more on suprise and misdirection than naval or air support" WHOA..... Hold the train up, Doctor S(&^ for Brains just said something so smart... I nearly spit up my drink."Every burro in Cuba knew the paticulars about the invasion well in advance from SPIES" WHOA..... Hold up Dr.SFB is at it again...another outstanding thought because you would know cause 1. you were there and 2. You have read books and actually done research into this battle right? WHOA ....SMART ONE AT WORK..."Not to mention a would be popular uprising was supposed to disrupt the Communist forces." WOW you just get better and better.

 

Everyone clear way cause DALE DYE JR. is on a roll

Actually he was just appointed General of the SIB(stupid ignorant bitches) Army. Congrats!

I Apologize, I misspelled Disaster. But seriously congrats General.

and grayston lynch is the authority on the bay of pigs based on what?

What happens when you clean up Rapp/Laettnerfanatic's reply by removing the excess junk:

 

 

**All the arguments Marlin nation posted**

 

Rapp/Laettnerfanatic: I want you to read the Decision for Diaster by Grayston Lynch, cause the book explains the "well dug in cubans"

 

Marlins nation: "Amphibious invasions rely more on suprise and misdirection than naval or air support...Every burro in Cuba knew the paticulars about the invasion well in advance from SPIES"

 

Rapp/Laettnerfanatic: you would know cause 1. you were there and 2. You have read books and actually done research into this battle right?

 

 

Marlins nation: "Not to mention a would be popular uprising was supposed to disrupt the Communist forces."

 

Rapp/Laettnerfanatic: WOW you just get better and better.

 

Dude, you didnt actually make an argument. You basically told him to read a books or actually be there. Those arent viable responses. Basically you cant refute any of his arguments with facts or counterarguments so you resort to being as asinine as possible and hope that nobody will notice.

Grayston was actually one of the two CIA men, and only americans taking part in the landing and actual fighting. Im gonna hold back my argument because he prob. will not believe it , and because dont take my word, I want you guys to read to read the book, take his. And I know exactly what I posted. Seriously go read the book. That will dominate any petty thoughts that he has.

Im gonna hold back my argument because he prob. will not believe it , and because dont take my word, I want you guys to read to read the book, take his.

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That's pretty soft. Just lay out your arguments and stop talking trash. That's the second time I've expressed interest in what you have to say.

 

Essentially all you've said is that I'm some know-it-all, s***-for-brains and that we should take your word for it that you are right.

THE GENERAL: "Essentially all you've said is.. that we should take your word for it

 

My actual comment: "because dont take my word, I want you guys to read to read the book, take his(Lynch)."

 

READ THE BOOK. I WANT YOU TO. YOU WILL LEARN SOMETHING.

 

 

1. the well dug-in -cuban army, was almost destroyed by a simple handful of men.

2. They were not awaiting the the invasion, it took them like a day or two to arrive on the scene. The only f%&($# thing awaiting them on the F*^$@) Beach was a MF jeep with 2, count them 2 F- soilders.

3. The US forces only had a like 5 or less planes available to them,some of them were not in operating shape to fly, and they STILL ALMOST PULLED OUT A WIN.

 

Andy yes you still are a F- MORON! Who hasnt read the book, and will remain firm in his uneducated thoughts that have no historical background or truth. Seriously read the book, please.

This post is absurd. This argument shouldnt be about bay of pigs, you guys were arguing over the efficiency of the CIA.

If what you say about bay of pigs is true thats just one instance. Do you know wha tthe CIA did during the clinton years in Somalia (Samantha Powers 2001)?

Or in the balkans in the 90s?

 

I'm not disagreeing with you I'm just saying that no one knows everything that the cIA has done, not even members or former members, its the nature of spy ops and intelligence gathering.

THE GENERAL: "Essentially all you've said is.. that we should take your word for it

 

My actual comment: "because dont take my word, I want you guys to read to read the book, take his(Lynch)."

 

READ THE BOOK. I WANT YOU TO. YOU WILL LEARN SOMETHING.

 

 

1. the well dug-in -cuban army, was almost destroyed by a simple handful of men.

2. They were not awaiting the the invasion, it took them like a day or two to arrive on the scene. The only f%&($# thing awaiting them on the F*^$@) Beach was a MF jeep with 2, count them 2 F- soilders.

3. The US forces only had a like 5 or less planes available to them,some of them were not in operating shape to fly, and they STILL ALMOST PULLED OUT A WIN.

 

Andy yes you still are a F- MORON! Who hasnt read the book, and will remain firm in his uneducated thoughts that have no historical background or truth. Seriously read the book, please.

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so now this one former cia agent is now not only the authority for the bay of pigs, but also is an authority on the entire historical background leading up to the bay of pigs.

 

 

and like legacy said, which i stated previously.....the cia didnt screw that one up, big deal, even a blind squirrel finds the nut sometimes.

Considering this CIA guy(Lynch) trained ex cuban frogmen, developed the plans for the invasion, secured funding for the invasion,was the first on the shore of cuba to begin recon Intel., and was on the boats that helped land the invading party, fought in the battles, was the Liason between Washington and the invading party, and was actually there, then went back to cuba after the screw-up and launched more covert missions against Castro, YEA I WOULD SAY HE IS AN AUTHORITY.

Considering this CIA guy(Lynch) trained ex cuban frogmen, developed the plans for the invasion, secured funding for the invasion,was the first on the shore of cuba to begin recon Intel., and was on the boats that helped land the invading party, fought in the battles, was the Liason between Washington and the invading party, and was actually there, then went back to cuba after the screw-up and launched more covert missions against Castro, YEA I WOULD SAY HE IS AN AUTHORITY.

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and that makes him an authority on the historical implications of the bay of pigs how?

boy, somebody sure pressed a button....

 

 

In other news, CIA also does not rule out that WMDs did not exist, that WMDs were largely destroyed, that WMDs were moved to Iran, Russia, Mississippi, or any other location larger than a bread box.