June 8, 200521 yr According to rotoworld.com the Tigers received Placido Polanco and Ramon Martinez. They (the phils) overpaid in my opinion. www.rotoworld.com 800968[/snapback] Considering Ramon was on the Tigers, I dont think that happened.
June 9, 200521 yr Solid pickup for Phils Urbina trade for Phils > Mets picking up Graves 801995[/snapback] No doubt, but they also have to give up a lot more. This will makes the games against the Phillies that much tougher
June 9, 200521 yr it's time for the fish to make some real moves if were gonna stay in the hunt, i know it's early but i rather be on top now
June 9, 200521 yr I don't know why everyone thinks the Phils overpaid. IMO, Utley Bell & Urbina is much more valuable of a trio than a Utley Bell Polanco platoon. Urbina has been lights out lately, and the Phillies bullpen has struggled to get a lead to Wagner for the 9th. With Urbina now in the fold, the Phillies now have a scary good relief core. I guess the one good thing is that they now have dealt their strongest trade chip, meaning the likelihood of them adding a front line starter (which is unquestionably what I think they need more than anything) is dimming.
June 9, 200521 yr Each team traded players on one-year contracts and stuck in roles they was not comfortable with. Not much leverage. It's just Polanco's a good everyday player, and Urbina's now the 3rd-best option in the Phillies' pen. The Phillies might have been better off keeping Polanco at 2B and moving the defensively-challenged Utley to 3B, and sending Bell elsewhere if that was possible.
June 9, 200521 yr Each team traded players on one-year contracts and stuck in roles they was not comfortable with. Not much leverage. It's just Polanco's a good everyday player, and Urbina's now the 3rd-best option in the Phillies' pen. The Phillies might have been better off keeping Polanco at 2B and moving the defensively-challenged Utley to 3B, and sending Bell elsewhere if that was possible. 802389[/snapback] Urbina was acquired to be the Phillie's new set-up man.
June 10, 200521 yr Damn it...this is a great trade for the Phillies. Madson, Urbina, and Wagner 7th-9th = game over. 800949[/snapback] Urbina is no longer lights out.
June 10, 200521 yr Damn it...this is a great trade for the Phillies. Madson, Urbina, and Wagner 7th-9th = game over. 800949[/snapback] Urbina is no longer lights out. 803658[/snapback] Very inconsistent...though the potential for "lights out" is still there...he had converted 8 of his last 8 didn't give up a run almost that whole stretch.
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